I thought this to be one of the best messages written to give a little more depth into the insanity of the Bush/Rice Israel policy.
When we ignorantly elect, we elect ignorance!

‘Truce! Truce! We don’t want no stinking Truce’.

How we going to keep our troops sharp playing ‘Shoot-Em-Up’ with the wives and kids of the duly elected government of Palestine, in the Gaza strip, if we have a ‘truce’?

So speaketh the Zionistas, aka the Meshuganah Putzes.

No surprises here! Since the Zionist branch in the U.S. has already renounced Carter’s peace-making efforts, then it’s no surprise that the Zionist branch in Israel must echo its sister’s stand.

On another thread, I already expressed my angry disappointment with Hillary, McCain and Obama in their criticism of Carter’s efforts. Given the fact that both Congress and the White House are Israeli-occupied territories, pandering to the Zionists is as American as apple pie is American.

However, I forgot to comment on Condi Rice’s who is not a member of Congress nor a running candidate for an office. Having a doctorate in history, Rice should know a little bit better than her “C” student boss in economics, the ever EVIL BUSH. I thought that she might be intellectually qualified to do better. But sorry for your lot Rice, for your slavish attitude indicates that you don’t remember that slavery was abolished a long time ago.

I am even wondering that a history major like yourself was ever aware that the establishment of state of Israel, just sixty years ago, was mostly due to the work of the two terrorist organizations, namely the Stern Gang and the Irgun Zvai Lumi, whose two notorious leading members were made prime ministers of Israel; Begin and Shamir, and not to forget the notorious terrorist Sharon to mention only a few.

To summarize how I feel about you Condi Rice, you are no match for Cater. You have chosen to remain a slave to your White Master sitting in the White House. Furthermore, since you are related to to the rice crop, you’re that type of rice that, despite of being on the cooking stove for several years now , has not been ready to be digested by the stomach. Like everyone mentioned above, your name and memory will always make me feel like throwing up!

A nation that allows the most ignorant people of recent history to rule over them, does not deserve to have a long history of its own, for that would be too much to learn for the future successors of the current ignorant ones! And it has been said that “those who don’t learn the lessons of history are bound to repeat its big mistakes” or something like that.

Once Germany’s Angela Merckel was led around in Israel like a heifer with a ring in its nose, they will blatantly do anything they wish - and at your expense, uhh! How the mighty have fallen...... but, being treated like idiots, you seem to like it!!!

Pro-Israel group CAMERA ( Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) plans to rewrite history on Wikipedia.....

A pro-Israel pressure group is orchestrating a secret, long-term campaign to infiltrate the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia to rewrite Palestinian history, pass off crude propaganda as fact, and take over Wikipedia administrative structures to ensure these changes go either undetected or unchallenged.... http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9474.shtml

Israel has rejected progress.  It wants to continue its occupation, settlements, and attacks.

Don’t blame the victim.

Israel uses the back and forth terrorism to explain their continued occupation of the Palestinians. They are like the US in Iraq-they want excuses to flex their muscles (paid for by the US, thats us!)and to continue to yield american power and clout against a people who have no army, no navy and no airforce. And most of the time they have no fuel, no food, and no water thanks to the holy jews.

I really don’t think the people of Israel all feel that way no more than we think Bush is doing a bang-up job in Iraq. The thing is, it seems Israel, much like our government, wants to control the terms of every agreement. There is a desire for peace, but it is shrouded in arrogance and victimization. These people are there because of a Holocaust, so they are naturally over-defensive like Reverend Wright is here in America. The beliefs they have aren’t always justified, but the peace discussions have to be controlled in context with victimization on all sides. I’m sure money will need to be in play as well.

Israel has their nerve calling Carter a “bigot”. He is one of the few American politicians that has the integrity to not be swayed by AIPAC.  Whoever takes office next January will need to deal with an Israel that has been more of an impediment to peace than a seeker of peace. The U.S. also needs to be seen as having a more balanced approach to Israel-Arab relations. We are seen by the Arab countries as being in the pocket of Israel which is not a good thing for our national interests. Unfortunately, too many of our elected leaders get our national interests confused with Israel’s.

Aegrus...glad you asked..

• “You know, I wonder how the hell Carter got these bitter militants to put down their weapons thirty years ago. What on Earth preps a person to deal with this kind of resentment and ideological hatred in order to reach a compromise? I would love to learn such skills.”

I admit that it takes incredible skill and talent, and certainly not just anybody can do it as effectively. We know that people devote their entire lives to doing exactly this. Jimmy Carter is among the greats, joining Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King Jr.

But you see the trouble here…all parties have to be WILLING to negotiate. ALL parties have to WANT peace. The horrific tragedy here, is that ISRAEL DOES NOT!

I mean come on…let’s call a spade a spade. I’m not saying that the Palestinians have engaged in retaliatory actions, because that would be stupid. But we’ve seen 60 years of this, and this is NOT, and I have to repeat that…NOT the first time that the Palestinians, (even before Hamas formed) have offered concessions.

Read the article again…Israel REJECTS them each and every time. Once every 12 or 15 years, Israel will agree to something…once they’ve been politically backed up against the wall by the International Community, and then they promptly renege, because they never had any intention of following along to begin with. EVER!

So, check the record, (though I admit it’s horribly depressing) and check the past 30 or more years of agreements that Israel has never fulfilled. I KNEW that Israel would reject this offer from Hamas, as they always do. The US has been doing the very same thing for 6 years with Iran. Every time Iran makes overtures toward any kind of concessions or agreements, the US rejects them.

So, there it is. The skills are great in creating peace where people actually want peace. Israel does not, at least not as long as they have the might, and they’ve said as much. As usual, they’re accusing Hamas of LYING, because…well, that’s EXACTLY how Israel operates, and always has. They know they’ve never entered into any agreements in good faith, so they put the same mindset on anyone else.

In short, if every single Palestinian put down their weapons, and simply sat down silently (as did Gandhi’s Indians) the IDF would run them all right over. Israel does not want peace. They just want to be the ONLY people living in the region. Israel would bulldoze and slaughter all in her wake…all the way across Arabia, and claim she was just ‘protecting her citizens’.

PT, one party attacked first, now are we going to stack up kill per kill, or are we going to look for progress?

There is no symmetry.  One party is occupied, and the other is the occupier.

Get into your heads that the major parties in the middle east do not want peace.The chaos works for everybody except for the people there.Carter talking to one of the players you must talk to if you want peace has been chastised by all parties.Carter is at a disadvantage he actually wants peace in the region.This is at odds with all the other major players so he is fighting a brave but losing battle.

I think we should stick to the big picture here. It doesn’t seem to assist the peace process to start attacking either side of the conflict for their transgressions. Everyone is guilty.

The current Israeli gov’t cannot accept even the most favorable terms from Hamas, as this would sabotage their strategy of dividing the Palestinians, appearing to negotiate with one faction while simultaneously denouncing the other. This tactic allows them to seem to want peace, while ensuring that this does not happen until they have completely settled all Palestinian territories.

Imagine the Iranians announcing they will only negotiate a nuclear deal with Libertarians, because they like their attitude better than that of our elected officials. Under that scenario would you say that Iranians were sincere, or merely playing a PR game?

This proves Israel will attack Gaza even if Hamas does not attack Israel.  Hamas is just retaliating for Israel’s attacks.

You know, I wonder how the hell Carter got these bitter militants to put down their weapons thirty years ago. What on Earth preps a person to deal with this kind of resentment and ideological hatred in order to reach a compromise? I would love to learn such skills.