![]() ![]() |
|
| |
|
Cafferty’s China Comments Spark ProtestPosted on Apr 19, 2008
When CNN commentator Jack Cafferty called the Chinese “a bunch of goons and thugs” on the air April 9, Chinese-Americans were listening—and Saturday morning, thousands protested outside Hollywood’s CNN building, demanding that he be fired.
Previous item: Three Different Takes on the Zimbabwean Presidential Battle Next item: Sadr Warns of 'Open War' Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
By Conservative Yankee, May 16 at 3:09 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
I’ve got plenty to do in my own country, which, in case you have not noticed is sliding down the hopper.
Also, I don’t plan to ever take another plane trip anywhere (until they stop treating passengers like cattle) and the last time I checked, it is not possible to drive to China.
Glad you are enjoying yourself, hope circumstances allow you to stay.
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 15 at 6:52 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Cut C. a little slack? He just misspoke? I don’t think so. He gets paid megabucks, let him take responsibility for being rude and crude.
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 15 at 6:47 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
It’s no secret that the same nitwit neocons who gave us the war in Iraq want war in China as well.
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 15 at 6:36 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
I earn about 3800 kuai a month. That’s about $542 but goes farther. I get an apartment and utilities from the college as well. I have time to study and write, too. Daily life here can be very pleasant. My students and colleagues are sweet and loveable. It’s quite a contrast with my life as a degraded minimum wage slave in the US.
Again, why not visit? Why be ignorant when you can be experienced? You don’t need to kiss anyone you don’t want to!
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, May 14 at 3:19 pm #
I don’t blame China for sending imports currently deemed “unsafe”. When I was younger we played with lead soldiers, painted with lead paint, had mercury fillings and used asbestos in many applications.
I blame the FDA and the companies importing the offending products which do not meet U.S. standards.
The Chinese people use the products they send us and when public pressure changes the product standards as they have done in the U.S., they too will take corporate heads.
For this reason alone I do not believe in caps in lawsuits.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, May 14 at 4:59 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
By Lester Ness, May 13 at 5:17 pm #
Re: Ass kissing liberal slime.:
“I’ve been thinking about your remarks, CY, and I think the problem between us is that I am NOT kissing ass—yours in particular.”
Since you claim to reside in China, please do not kiss any part of me.. Your saliva is probably disease-laden or poison.
Making a bunch of money over there?
Report thisBy lester ness, May 14 at 3:22 am #
One of our local Kunming lawyers is suing Cafferty! (See http://www.gokunming.com/en/) In the US, I presume. I hope enough people sue C. that he’s at least sorry he insulted the wrong people—something that I expect he learned on the streets of Chicago as a boy, but has since forgotten.
Lester Ness, alive in the bitter sea
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 13 at 5:17 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I’ve been thinking about your remarks, CY, and I think the problem between us is that I am NOT kissing ass—yours in particular. And yes, it’s because I am a liberal, in the sense that I don’t want to be a slave, don’t want to own a slave.
As for low-quality goods from China, yes, quality control is a big problem here, as in the USA in 1908 and Japan in 1958. Why don’t you bring your quality control expertise here, teach it to the engineers and manufacturers? That’s what Denning did in Japan.
See you!
Lester Ness, alive in the bitter sea
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 13 at 4:02 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I’m so liberal that I was on active duty on Yankee Station while Pres. Bush was AWOL in Alabama. I’ve always done my duty to my country. Want to call me more names? Come visit me in Kunming. I’ll meet you at the airport.
Lester Ness
Report thisKunming
China
By Conservative Yankee, May 8 at 5:32 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
By lester ness, May 7 at 6:37 pm #
“If he’d meant the government,he’d’ve said “the Chinese government”. Instead, he whined about debts (surely the fault of the US!) and bad quality control at a privately-owned factory. Yes, XYZ factory should have better quality control, but it wasn’t a government factory. By the way, the owner not only apologized, but closed the factory and killed himself to prove the sincerity of his apology. Will Cafferty do something to prove his sincerity? Probably not.”
I’m no friend of Cafferty or his network, HOWEVER the drivel from apologists for China’s shoddy irresponsible behavior is sickening.
Mr Ness, it was not one factory. China has exported unsafe and toxic toys, poison toothpaste. unsafe tires, sub-standard steel, lead-laden clothing, lead painted baby furniture and diseased fish, poultry, and meat.
The chinese government (under our trade agreement with them) is responsible for the quality of goods being exported from that country.
In my opinion, Cafferty didn’t go far enough. He should have posed the possibility that the poison, toxic and dangerous products being shipped to our country are weapons in a war we do not yet fully comprehend… One might even refer to it as “terrorism.”
I agree that WE are responsible to some degree in that we’re still (after the fact) doing business with this rogue nation.
Report thisBy lester ness, May 7 at 6:37 pm #
If he’d meant the government,he’d’ve said “the Chinese government”. Instead, he whined about debts (surely the fault of the US!) and bad quality control at a privately-owned factory. Yes, XYZ factory should have better quality control, but it wasn’t a government factory. By the way, the owner not only apologized, but closed the factory and killed himself to prove the sincerity of his apology. Will Cafferty do something to prove his sincerity? Probably not.
Lester Ness
Report thisalive in the bitter sea
By Lester Ness, May 6 at 3:56 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Actually, I do live in China, and find it no worse than the USA. That’s why I know just how ignorant and bigoted Cafferty et al. are! Why not come and visit?
Report thisBy Lester Ness, May 6 at 3:53 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Cafferty is an ignoramus. Does his knowledge of China go beyond visiting a Chinese restaurant or two?
Report thisBy Martin, May 5 at 7:46 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
Cafferty’s words hurt our government, if just to government, people should not in such a tense. wether what the people said may appear on CNN, I feel cnn is a good place where people can share their idea with others, no government may hide this
Report thisBy lester ness, May 1 at 7:07 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
OK, do-gooders, if you really want to help the Tibetans or anyone else in China, come teach English in a high school or college. Google “teach english china” and you’ll get a large list of possibilities. Xining Teacher’s College has a lot of Tibetan students, for example.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, May 1 at 7:02 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Something in my post suggests to you that I support the US government?? Guess I’ll have to return to writing school.
Using the “Nixon defense” The line “everybody does it” will never make it right.
Equating the (so-called) “government” in Darfur to the House of Saud is disingenuous. Last I heard the Saudi government was not involved in genocide.
Report thisBy wondergirl, April 30 at 4:27 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
How defensible is the US’s support of the Saudi Government? Why should China be blasted for supporting Sudan’s economy when the US supports the Saudi Princes for the same reason (oil)? Neither is good, but if your going to dish it out, you need to be able to self-criticize as well.
Report thisBy mikey, April 26 at 4:26 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
go ahead call us the chinese all you want,it doesn’t “hurt” us, we the strongs know that you are the weak, even an ant is more human than you!
Report thisso i suggest u go back to pres-school, learn some manners, go find your mommy to teach u.
By Conservative Yankee, April 26 at 5:04 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
China’s record on human rights is horrible, even by US standards. Their support of the government in Darfou is indefensible. The Government of China is not a duly elected body with which people choose to belong, it is a gulag, and we (in the US choose to over look this because we get cheap squeegees from them.
If China is such a great place, why have all these folks moved to the US?
...the question is rhetorical…
Report thisBy lester ness, April 25 at 3:41 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Cafferty et al. need to realize it’s not 1908, and they can’t just insult a billion people without a lot of them talking back. His claims that he wasn’t dissing all Chinese people, just the PRC government, is like the Grand Dragon of the KKK saying he didn’t hate all black people. If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard some bigot deny he was a bigot, I could retire!
Lester Ness
Report thisKunming
China
By PatrickHenry, April 21 at 1:11 pm #
Like CY stated, the U.S. Govt. wants trade and ties with China, no waves. It’s the media which seems to be promoting ill will.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, April 21 at 12:58 pm #
Journalist or entertainer?
Anytime I hear unobjective editorials from on air media celebrities inciting riot, enflaming and insulting others by irresponsible opinion, I think of Rush Limbach and now Jack Cafferty.
RG,
Are you the blog police?
Report thisBy david, April 21 at 8:29 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Us american think highly of ourselves....thats good...unfortunately our attitude will previal as well. Think auto industry and manufacturing in general.
We did it to ourself...and we have to undo it for ourself.....thanks for your time....honest working naturalized color american.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, April 21 at 4:50 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
“I suspect this campaign is being manipulated by the USA government who wants China as an enemy.”
Excuse me, but is that the same US government that raised by 50% the number of visas for Chinese students? The same US government that has borrowed well into a Trillion dollars from the Chinese Government?
The same US government which now officially calls this Nation “China” when it is still communist China, or Officially to everyone else in the world; “The People’s Republic of...”
No you have it wrong. The US government wants China as a friend and banker. It is the manufacturing worker in this country Uncle Sam wants as an enemy…
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, April 21 at 3:00 am #
I guess in their nations history they are bound to have and Ohio state event, a Waco, and demonstrate thay they can trade with the devil.
Report thisBy Rex Chapman, April 20 at 7:51 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
Did the government that massacred protesters in Tiananmen Square, you know where the guy stood in front of the tank (who was later killed), did THAT government leave power? Aren’t they still using slave labor and killing members of the Falun Gong “cult” and some reports have then harvesting their organs for transplants; but that government is gone right?
The Chinese are partially responsible for the Dafur crisis, and were just caught shipping arms to Zimbabwe, for what is obviously a lead up to a brutal crack down by the now unelected government. Let us not forget Tibet. Jack Cafferty is right they are the same group of tyrants, just because we do business with them doesn’t make them nice or noble, it just means instead of a communist totalitarian country they are a fascist totalitarian country.
Report thisBy GrammaConcept, April 20 at 6:58 pm #
worth repeating:
“If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each person’s liife sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.”
-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Thank you for your efforts here toward this complex end....
We strive on.....
Report thisBy Spinoza750, April 20 at 4:16 pm #
The anti Chinese crap that has permeated the air since the Tibet incident is amazing and out right racist. The liberals and right wingers are having a contest as to which can be more anti Chinese. I suspect this campaign is being manipulated by the USA government who wants China as an enemy.
Report thisBy republicanSScareme, April 20 at 1:15 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
Jack Cafferty is the ONLY HONEST reporter working for CNN. The rest are all pathetic hacks. Their Zionist slant is actually a form of treachery against the United States.
Cafferty and Olbermann are the only two reporters working for the MSM who have a sense of decency. It’s amazing.
Report thisBy Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 20 at 10:57 am #
I think that most thinking English-speaking people realize that there are goons and thugs all over the globe. There are also many who agree with foreigners who severely criticize Bush and his administration. Perhaps the best we can do to try to improve the human race is to examine criticisms from every corner of the world, accept those that are constructive and reject those that are not.
As a pro working-class person, I have little respect for most of the world’s leaders, whether elected or dictators and tyrrants. No leader has the right, for any reason, to disrespect his/her own citizens or those innocent citizens of other countries. And he/she has no right to make up self-serving rationalizations justifying disrespect.
When I get time, I intend to go through your links. Thanks
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, April 20 at 6:57 am #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist
Jack Cafferty is displaying irresponsible journalism of the “yellow” varity reminiscent of the 50’s (his gendre) Try saying what he said about jews and he would be fired by CNN owners.
His feelings regarding the Chinese don not reflect those of a vast majority of Americans. Because he has a microphone does not make him right.
Report thisBy Paolo, April 20 at 6:32 am #
Well put. Let’s see if I get this straight: China is run by “goons and thugs” because they invaded and occupied Tibet, a country on its own border. The US invaded and occupied Iraq, a country on the far side of the globe. Both invasions and occupations took place because the thug leaders of both countries knew they could get away with it.
The pot once again calls the kettle black.
Report thisBy cyclezealot, April 20 at 6:24 am #
Sounds bad, yes . Give him a chance to retract.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, April 20 at 5:39 am #
Provacative and insulting talk is hardly the hallmark of a great journalist. He again proves objectivity is long gone in the newa media whose hosts merely parrot scripted propaganda.
Outsourcing and offshoring of U.S. employment is to blame as well as our governments continuous borrowing back of our currency from the Chinese banks.
http://www.wwe.com/
Report thisBy lodipete, April 20 at 5:22 am #
Jack is right on the money just as is Lou Dobbs! I wonder how many of those “protestors” are actually Chinese government agents. All you “liberal” free thinkers ought to go live there if you like regimentation so much.
Report thisBy Mark Liu, April 20 at 5:11 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Well, most of the westerner think their have free speech, but do their? their throught is been programmed by the media, never able to jump out of that kind of thinking, so their have never have other kinds opinion beside what media feed them, sigh.... here is your chance, to learn the other side of coin, log into http://www.anti-cnn.com .
Report thisBy Mark Liu, April 20 at 4:58 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
If you are an open mind person, may I suggest that open website http://www.anti-cnn.com see how others have different opinion about Jack and western reports.
Report thisBy Roger Lafontaine, April 20 at 4:49 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Cafferty declares that ‘items from China are junk’ eh? I wonder how much of that ‘junk’ he has lying around in his house? Or where he works?
Report thisBy TDoff, April 20 at 4:26 am #
For goodness’ sake. Cut Cafferty a little slack. He just misspoke.
He meant to say, ‘The US is run by a bunch of goons and thugs’.
Report thisBy Mark Liu, April 20 at 4:05 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
So you do agree that what Jack says is offensive, you are not angry about this, because it has not “offened” YOU, let’s consider, if he say something offensive about your family? will you NOT ask a apology from him? I think NOT. It is too bad, that you are only reading ALL the news and comments about this case in English only, if you able to read the reporting and comments in Chinese, then you will hold a different opinion.
Report thisBy Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 20 at 3:58 am #
Too many, maybe even most, of the world’s leaders are goons and thugs. You don’t have to go offshore to see that. Defending them out of a warped sense of nationalism won’t make the world any better.
I might suggest that it may not help, either, to bypass your own leaders when casting aspersions at other’s. It’s bound to offend “Furriners.”
Report thisBy M. MacDonald, April 19 at 7:52 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I was a witness to the protest held today in front of the CNN building in Los Angeles. It was extremely unnerving to see hundreds of people flying a foreign country’s flag and protesting an American who was practicing his right to free speech. However, this is how freedom of speach works. One person would say something offensive and the other would be allow to protest it. I love my country and I am extremely proud to be part of one of the few countries in the world that would allow this kind of protest. But I due hope that CNN and Jack don’t back down.
Report thisBy Thomas Billis, April 19 at 6:58 pm #
They are a bunch of goons and thugs.Let those Chinese who are demonstrating here go back to China and see if they can do it there.He was not picking on the Chinese people but on the government.Mr Cafferty is right and if CNN buckles to these people it will be another case of political correctness run amok.I guess if before WW2 you called Hitler a bad name you would be accused of slandering all German’s.Let these people take their nationalistic fervor and go over to China and try to get something resembling Democracy.That way goons and thugs will not be applicable.Unfortunately now it is.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, April 19 at 6:40 pm #
In 1421, the eunuch Zheng He set out on a double mission from China. His first order of business was to return royal visitors to their homes along the coast of the Indian Ocean; his second order of business was to make maps, locate resources, and establish trade connections with nations yet unknown to the Chinese.
The fleet of junks was large and subdivided into groups. Each junk was massive, boasting multiple, water-tight compartments. Food was grown onboard, and various, semi-domesticated creatures were used to fish. The fleet sailed far and wide, mostly following currents and mapping both heaven and earth.
While Zheng He was abroad, lightening stuck the Forbidden City and it burned to the ground. This was taken as a very bad omen for the Emperor and his expansive ideas...more so for the eunuchs like Zheng He, who had grown so powerful. China turned inward, and only now - some 600 years later - do we see the Middle Kingdom reaching out again.
When Columbus sailed the ocean blue, he knew that he wasn’t going to sail off the end of the Earth. He knew, because he had maps to prove it. His curious find of a three-legged, cast-iron pot in the Caribbean is actually well explained by the information that Zheng He brought back to China. That information was, however, secreted away and not spoken of...though a statue of the eunuch was erected.
Not many years ago, a collection of Zheng He’s maps went on display. In Australia, the locals could easily identify landmarks. There is a very good reason why Cilantro is also called Chinese Parsley, and that South Americans had chickens before Europeans arrived.
By the luck of ocean currents, the Chinese would not have made landfall in Europe. If they had, however, the Europeans would have been confronted with a civilization far more powerful and advanced than their own. Unlike European explorers, however, there is evidence to suggest that the Chinese mission was one of peace.
We can only wonder what today would look like if the lightening had not struck the Forbidden City...if China had developed the world rather than Europe. Unfortunately, today’s China is not its own culture anymore, but an emulation of Western culture.
This website is interesting (particularly the interactive maps), but the book is much better. I have not had the opportunity to watch the PBS special. I linked specifically to the first page of “evidence” There are many more, and they make for interesting reading.
http://www.1421.tv/pages/evidence/content.asp?EvidenceID=9
Report this