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Democratic Voters Agree: Bail Us Out

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Posted on Apr 16, 2008
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According to a new L.A. Times/Bloomberg poll, the vast majority of Democratic voters in the next three primary battlegrounds want the government to bail out struggling homeowners. Most don’t seem to care that the Fed rescued Bear Stearns; they just want the same treatment.


Los Angeles Times:

The poll was conducted among likely Democratic primary voters in the three states with the next elections: Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Carolina. Voters’ responses were roughly similar in all three.

Large majorities of Democratic voters said they supported federal action to bail out distressed homeowners. In Pennsylvania, 67% of self-described Democrats said they favored such a program, even when it was described as a “bailout.”

Most Democratic voters also said they thought international trade had hurt the economy. In Pennsylvania, 55% of Democratic voters said trade had hurt and only 12% agreed with the Bush administration (and most economists) that trade helped the economy.

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By Jack08democracy, May 5, 2008 at 2:01 am Link to this comment
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“I get them every day. Tons and tons of e-mails,” said David Hardt of Dallas, an uncommitted superdelegate and president of the Young Democrats of America. Some of the e-mails read like they’re directed from a campaign or Web site, he said, and some are long, drawn-out and nasty.

“Someone sent me an e-mail saying, ‘Don’t let your dog out at night.’ ”

Web sites like LobbyDelegates.com make it easy for users to click a link and send a fax, letter or e-mail. The Superdelegate Transparency Project is a network of Web sites that seeks to inform users of everything from whom the superdelegates support to where they live, how to reach them by cellphone, and how their districts are voting. Groups like MoveOn.org and Color of Change are busy with online petitions, while the campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton regularly send out e-mail to the delegates.

Using the Internet to organize and educate voters has already become an integral part of this election. But it’s now vital for anyone who even hopes to catch the attention of the superdelegates in time to matter.

Party leaders want the uncommitted delegates to announce their decisions soon to avoid a brokered convention in August.

It wasn’t until February that voters and activists realized superdelegates could wind up making the decision for them within a few months – a time constraint that limited the effectiveness of regular mailers or simple organizing techniques.

The Internet suddenly became crucial in educating voters on who the superdelegates are and helping to lobby them with sophisticated arguments that the average voter may never have needed to consider.

“We’re saying, let’s give the people some power, or at least a voice to inject their two cents into the superdelegates” issue, said Ken Laureys, a founder of LobbyDelegates.com, which lets users send letters, e-mails or faxes from its Web site. “Most of them are elected officials and they have constituents, so even though they have the right to vote whichever way, they can’t totally discount what the constituents have to say.”

The Internet also breaks what James Rucker, founder of the black advocacy group Color of Change, called a “psychological barrier” many people have to lobbying their members of Congress: Shyness or inability to effectively articulate their answers.

People can go to his Web site, click a link and then sign an online petition and add comments addressed to their member of Congress.

“Even making a phone call takes a little more effort,” said Mr. Rucker, whose group is lobbying members of the Congressional Black Caucus. “Being able to click on the link and go to a page and make a comment you know is going to be put in front of your member of Congress is an empowering thing.”

Both campaigns have been actively pushing the superdelegates toward their own camps.

SOURCE: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-superdelegates_03pol.ART.State.Edition1.46a72d1.html

Jack

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By PatrickHenry, April 17, 2008 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

Perhaps the government should guarantee refinancing of the homes at a 50 or 100 year mortgage or until those who bit off more than they could chew can catch-up. 

I don’t believing in giving those compund interest peddlers of loans a free break with tax dollars, it’s a business and if they are stupid enough to allow a bad loan under a dubious contract they should suffer the wrath of making a bad business decision.

It happens in the private sector every day.

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By voice of truth, April 17, 2008 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment

People don’t care, they just want the government to bail them out of their bad decisions.  This is the same for a corporation that made bad business decisions to a would-be homeowner who bit off more than they could chew.

There are no innocents in this debacle.  It’s infuriating that our government is essentially taking my money to pay the bills of some fool.  Even worse in the bargain, they are only doing it to by votes

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By Aegrus, April 17, 2008 at 11:13 am Link to this comment

It’s sad, but some chips need to fall with this crisis, and Bear-Sterns should have been at the top of the list. Just because a lot of people want something, doesn’t mean it is a necessity. Lots of people want Hummers and Ferrari too.

Glad you put some perspective on this issue because people need to know we don’t have any damn money anymore to bail out half the nation. I wish we didn’t give the big guys a break either, but it would be hard to undo now.

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By jackpine savage, April 17, 2008 at 2:45 am Link to this comment

What people really mean (though they may not even know it) when they say that they want the government to bail them out of their troubles…be they middle class homeowners or giant investment banks…is that they want their children and grand children to bail them out.

All the bailing out money and all the ‘stimulus’ money (hell, all the money) is borrowed.  It will need to be paid back, plus interest.

Who will bail out the grandchildren?

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By cyrena, April 16, 2008 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

•  “But she said her decision to vote for Clinton was based on different factors: “I don’t know that much about Barack Obama. I’m a lifelong Democrat and, heck, I’m a woman,” she said.”

Just not a very smart woman. Note the words..’doesn’t know very much about Barack Obama.’ If that is true, then she DOESN’T WANNA KNOW, and hasn’t attempted to find out. It’s not like he hasn’t made his positions clear, or that the media and the republicans haven’t vetted him thoroughly via racking him over the coals, even if it’s been on bullshit stuff. So, to say that one is voting on ‘different factors’ other than what she’s mentioned as the most important issue…the state of the economy, but rather because she’s a lifelong democrat and a woman, is downright stupid.

Clinton isn’t even a lifelong Democrat herself, even though she did ‘switch’ a long time ago from being one of the Goldwater Girls. As for her being a woman, I’ve yet to figure out why so many women seem unaware of the fact that it doesn’t guarantee a damn thing. Just because a person –any person- be it a boss, co-worker, leader, whatever, whatever, happens to be part of one’s own demographic group, does NOT mean they’re gonna necessarily support the interests of that group.

I don’t know why more people don’t get that…at least older adults whom I believe would have some experience by now. I leaned this in my late 20’s, after re-locating to Chicago, where I believed the environment to be more progressive for people of color and women of color. It was the only place –at the time- where my company employed at least one manager of color, (a man) and a few slightly lower level supervisors of color, one of them a woman.

Now, this was back in the late 70’s, and in my estimation, that was far more ‘progressive’ than the atmosphere that existed within the same corporate structure, even in LA. HA! The joke was on me. The guy was a super-sexist wanna be womanizer, and the woman was an Auntie Tom, competitive, back-stabbing bitch who automatically designated any OTHER women of color as her worst enemies. Gee. What an education.

Anyway, when people say stuff like this…the most important issue is the economy, and then proceed to say that they’re gonna vote for whomever they vote for because of party/age/gender preferences, I know why we’re as jacked-up as we are.

Here’s another oxymoron..

•  “Among Pennsylvania Democratic voters who believe that trade hurts the economy, 48% said they planned to vote for Clinton, 42% for Obama. Among the minority of Democratic voters who believe trade helps the economy, 54% said they planned to vote for Obama, 38% for Clinton.”

Which of these candidates, just between the two of them, is MORE RESPONSIBLE for trade, regardless of whether they think trade is good or bad for the economy? THAT is a no brainer! Barack Obama isn’t old enough, and hasn’t been in politics for long enough, to have had anything to do with the trade policies that have developed over the past 3 decades, most notably with the policies of NAFTA that Bush I ushered in, and that BOTH CLINTONS made ‘official’ and that gave away the flippin’ store.

Hello out there…does anybody get it? Hillary Clinton = Wal-Mart AND NAFTA! Barack Obama, (for anyone who’s been paying even a little bit of attention) has consistently sited this trade thing as the reason for the jacked-up economy. So fine, if they think ‘trade is good’ I would expect them to favor Hillary. If they think it has hurt the economy, it seems that logic would follow that they would favor Obama. Since that’s not what these statistics indicate, are Americans just stupid, or are we simply uninformed? Maybe both?

Or, is it me? Maybe I don’t ‘get it’. Or maybe I’m just breaking it down between the difference of FAIR trade, (good) and FREE trade (very nasty).

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