That’s nice Cameron but you haven’t commented on the media cropping your pic until it could be interpreted any way they want - or misimnterpreted by anyone…....

My point was that was exactly what happened with early reports on what happened in Tibet and in Nepal. Why did that happen?

Don’t forget that it started with Tibetans attacking Chinese, it was a riot and the Chinese security forces had a right and a duty to do something.

More pics of Jing Jin http://2008.sohu.com/20080408/n256170372.shtml

Disabled girl becomes China’s Olympic heroine  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/04/12/uboly112.xml

Quote: Ban Ki-moon, the secretary general of the United Nations, became the latest public figure to say he would not attend the opening ceremony, though he said it was for “scheduling” reasons…

Ban Ki Moon is a COWARD, uhh! Its everywhere, now….... what a goose he must be, eh! A one-legged Shanghai girl has upstaged him - permanently!!!!

Believe me, ender, you are fantasizing that “...the ‘monks’ will be ethnic Han chinese communist posing as monks…” in Tibet. The Chinese are NOT interested in becoming Tibetan Buddhists.

It is the Westerners who are fantasizing about a long lost Shangri-la that they have usurped from the world with their rotten march into materialism. You don’t even understand what is “freedom” any more.

what BBC said was China just wanna show its power to the world,well, in some way, that’s true,China was invaded for so many times by the western countries and Japan,from 1846 to 1945,Chinese people suffered so much ,more than you could imagine,British,France,USA,Spain,etc,with almost all the western European countries included,seas of money,gold,silver,treasure had been robbed by your countries,and we were called “awkward of the East Asia”,what do you say of this,it hurts,all the Chinese hurt in the heart, we don’t wanna be called that insulting name.that’s why we wanna show our country which makes us proud to the world,still   now we are your workers,most of the profit was took away by your citizens,our foreign bosses.One extreme saying is that if it’s true we are gathering fortune,that’s the western countries are paying back our money.but I don’t like these kinds of words,history is history,the past thing should past,the western midia and the people always complain about made in China,your only one car can worth tens of trucks of Chinese shoes.why do you think we wanna live a life like a donkey ,always working for 9 to 14 hours a day without a weekend’s rest? We are not the bosses,we are the robots who can’t say I am tired,or we gonna lose our jobs to be beggars .Different from you,we don’t good welfare for there are too many people here,disease or unemployment means death could be a possibility,we encounter the same situation,now a lot of factories are moving from China to Vietnam and Aferica,this is just a world economic rule, so pls don’t say that Chinese economy or Chinese people should be a threaten to the world.that’s irresponsible.

Nice to produce PROOF rather than be confused with the “mix’n'match” crowd, uhh!

Dear editor,first I am so so sorry that I had been so rude few days ago,I didn’t notice I need to register to have my comment shown immediately, then one day after I first post a comment on your website, I still didn’t see it shown,that drives me mad,beacuse I ‘ve seen tremendous misatkes from pictures to cultural misunderstandings in the reports of the western media,I can’t wait to tell the truth, you could know what is the feeling that been misunderstood by your friends. So I really would like that kind of impolite words won’t bother you too much.

I am a ordinary citizen in China,nothing to do with the Communist Party,but I see Chinese people’s lives improving, no matter ethnic Chinese or minorities,in recent years,if I have to give a mark on the new government from 2003, 75to 80 points is acceptable(100point is full),before 2003,that’s a 50 points or less,a lot of corruptions happened from 1989 to 2003,that’s a bad period in China in spite of the developing economy.

I knew that the bad things you’ve heared are mostly true in the past,however,this one,the Tibetan issue,is totally different,we are living in this country,our eyes and hearts can not tell lies to ourselves:our lives are definitely improving,with economy always developing, human rights improved from 2003,you can have a look at my article:the history of Tibet and the Communist Party, I think you will get a deeper recognization of the Tibetan issue.

As to the internet block in China,I think it is a idiot’s foolish behavior to stop foreign journalists to report to their reader if that is true,the highest official of the Chinese news department had already been fired by the government,I used to like the western media,for you mean truth,you mean fact,you mean fair, so see China today carefully,read more history about Tibet,or come to China ,to Tibet,to ask the ordinary people living there after the situation is calm down,you will get an idea who’s telling lies.

                                                  yours sincerely ;Nash

Maybe you guys think Communist Party as an evil,however,when this Party came out,it had gained a lot of support from most of the poor people,from 1928 to 1949,they confiscated the properties of the rich,for example,the landlords,the capitalists.These money and fortunes were possessed by the country,every citizen shared the fortunes equally(these things never happened after1978).
  So the rich people were afraid of the Communist Party,but the poor loved it.
  From1951 to 1959,after Tibet had came back to China(at least at that time Dailai did not refuse joining into PRC ,so just permit me to use the word come back,while you can keep your own view),the central government allowed to keep the existence of the different social system in Tibet.
However,the problem is :The society in Tibet was in some way like the medieval European,the religion lords and the temples owned most of the land,accommondating a large number of monks, those monks and the landlords did not need to work, while on the other hand,tremendous poor Tibetans had no land,they had no choice but to work for the religion lords and the temple,they wanted to uprise,or call for help from the Chinese central government to change the situation. You know that the Communist Party had confiscated the wealth of the rich,its goal is to help the poor,so this scenery happened again:
  The poor rebelled with the help of the central government,they burnt the contract of debt,claiming a equally-shared land, this scenery can be seen on the vedio tape broadcasted by the Chinese National Secret Profile Bureau. I can make sure that the delightful faces of those “slavers” are definitely true,they were singing,dancing and smiling. Because the the budget can not afford such a big amount of monks, some monks were sent back to be ordinary people,but still a lot left in the temple.
so after that ,DaiLai Lama chose to escape from Tibet and search for independent,large number of monks followed him to India.
According to all of those materials, the Tibetan issue in my view,is not only a history problem,but also a conflict between the religion beliefs and the economic development,the Tibetans are loyal to their religion,a lot of them still see Dailai Lama as religional leader,but the Chinese government spent tremendous money developing the economy,improving their daily lives,that’s why you see only part of the Tibetans joined in the riot,even some Tibetans help save the ethnic Chinese during the riot.I think it’s a paradox for the Tibetans to make a choice.
I can not say who’s right or who’s wrong,the Chinese people and the government think the kind western people have been cheated by the western media,because they ignore the main voices from the Chinese,paying so much attention to only several people who claim independence, kindhearted western people,I really would like to tell you,the monks are not the only part of the old Tibetans,there were much more slaves in that society who needed human rights more eagerly,Tibet is a sacred place in your mind,I know,but it’s a real world,welcome you to come to China to feel the friendship and to Tibet to see what is the true life ordinary people living there,not only monks.

Looks like the same Chinese girl in a Reuters slideshow today with Chinese flag but dishonestly said to be a Tibetan “behind a Chinese flag”, uhh http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSPEK20364920080412?sp=true (China says unity at stake over Tibet)

Quote pic 6: “A pro-Tibet demonstrator is seen behind a Chinese flag before the beginning of the Olympic Torch relay in San Francisco, April 9…” REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni

But Reuters can’t even tell the difference between police “men” and police “women”, duh…....

Quote pics 14, 15: “Paramilitary policemen (women!) participate in an anti-terror military drill in Urumchi, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region April 9…”

Nice to see a response from the TruthDig editorial staff for a change.

Despite what AP may have said, that young woman looks rather more Chinese than Tibetan, is wearing red and all the flags directly behind her are Chinese. The people behind her look Chinese, too.

The scandal that was started by the German media in deliberately mislabelling Nepalese and Indian police as “Chinese security forces” beating Tibetans is still going on…....

Today I saw a news media clip which showed bleeding Chinese victims of the Lhasa riots being carried away by Chinese police but the scene had been shown in a context with the comments which was re-interpreted as their being Tibetan victims being arrested by Chinese police.

The BBC calling the sky-blue shell-suited Chinese “flame attendants” accompanying the Olympic torch as “goons” and accusing them of being from some elite parachute regiment which was supposely brutally engaged in cracking down on Tibetans is disappointing and offensive, to say the least.

Despite the continued harassments and provocations, not one of the Chinese flame attendents ever struck any of the people trying to grab the torch. They simnply held onto the torch themselves and used their own bodies to shield it and the athlete carrying it.

In the section in Paris where Jing Jin, the disabled one-legged young Chinese athlete was attacked three times, they had not been allowed to accompany the flame. Why??? She was actually slightly injured as a result, according to Chinese media. She is now already seen as the heroine of the Games in China.

You’re living in the past, ender - but so too are many Americans who have an utterly myopic view of the word. China’s is no longer the Maoist regime of the 1940’s - 50’s. They learned form their mistakes where the USA has been making mistake after mistake and is going to hell.

The old Mao and his gangsters were just like the Russians under Stalin. In the end, their feeble agricultural policies and social reforms caused unsustainable upheaval - in the 50’s with their “great leap forward” which created a man-made famine just like the government in India had inflicted on its citizens a decade before; and in the 60’s with their absurd “cultural revolution” orchestrated by Mao’s wife and her “gang of four”.

It all sounds rather like what is going on in the USA today with the Neocons and the Rice/Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld gang. The only difference is it is all being done by stealth - and the worst may be yet to come, even if it is only the economic consequences. The USA is heading into a self-made recession/credit squeeze if not an actual depression, uhh.

But, in the last 20 years or so, China accepted that it had to change and they embraced capitalism once again and have more recently proved that they are the original masters of the game in the world of finance and business. Too bad that it coincides with the historic decline of the USA as a global power.

The Chinese and the Japanese before them have helped facilitate the continuing wealth and power of the USA by cheaply producing goods to underwrite the self-aggrandizing lifestyle of Americans and their continuing warlike hegemony. They continue to be the USA’s largest creditors despite Americans continually spitting in their faces.

They have done nothing wrong and the reason your jobs have been shipped overseas lies entirely with America’s own unsustainable policies and the constant pandering to an enormous military-industrial complex that refused to be mothballed after 1945. All of the wars since then that America has been involved in were started by the USA and were explicitly designed to serve that master, regardless of their true cost.

America and the West are reaping that harvest and don’t like it. It is the bitter result of their own making. Now their governments want to shift the blame onto benefic China to cover their culpability and complicity in the forthcoming global finacial crisis as well as to avoid the shame of their having created the wars against Islam.

What kind of policies do you have that have turned two thirds of the world against you? Since 2001, the Islamic world hates the West and now, sice the Olympic torch debacle and the way it has been deleriously mishandled by the media, the entire Asian world hates the West as well.

Actually, most of these countries once liked and admired the West and the USA. Now you have all squandered their goodwill as much as you have squandered your own economic future. So sad, indeed, and we will pay the consequences for the next “hundred years”!

I don’t understand your investment in China’s future….well being.  China has achieved it’s own colonial empire by small scale military action followed by the same totalitarian reeducation, relocation and mass imprisionments that it has used in Tibet.  It considers all religion enemies of the state and as such the culture of the Tibetan peoples with 2000 yrs of gov’t by the state religion headed by the string of Dalai Lamas, it cannot let their religion survive.  The Tibetan people are so committed to that religion that even though more than 50% of the population has been relocated, killed or starved to death, the still protest.  If you visit a Buddhist temple in Tibet today the ‘monks’ will be ethnic Han chinese communist posing as monks for the most part.  You do not have to kill every member of a culture to commit cultural genocide, just punish cultural practices and rewrite history for the future generation.

Since the Chinese are pretty much the ‘Jews’ of the orient and consider themselves genetically superior, their ultimate goal is to assimilate both the gene pool and culture until neither exist as a separate entity.

For myself I could give a rat’s arse how much we pizz of the Chinese and would like the see the world do it in a unified manner if it gets freedom for Tibet.

By ender, April 11: ”...It might be the final straw that breaks the back of totalitarianism, or at least stops the genocide of the Tibetan culture and nation…”

“Cultural genocide” is the precious double-talk of the West, ender. It does not refer to any real genocide and is an emotive red herring to mislead people intentionally.

The mass murderers of the world in the 21st century are the Americans. The Chinese are a peaceful nation who have never conducted invasions the way the USA has in the past 60 years.

But lucky politicians in the US will be making the most of meeting the Dalai lama during his 5-day visit despite his saying that “he was only pursuing “meaningful” Tibetan autonomy and cultural freedoms within China—and that he supports the right of Beijing to host the Olympics in August…”

They will certainly be avidly trying to get the most out of their efforts to make Tibet the new AIPAC after the US House of Representatives and Senate passed resolutions condemning Beijing….....

SINGAPORE: Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has warned that the outrage in China, especially among the young, over the displays of contempt for China and things Chinese will have consequences well beyond the Beijing Olympic Games….....

“In this new environment of raw, unprocessed information with instant worldwide impact, it will not be easy to keep the public debate on a high plane, especially on controversial issues where emotions rather than reason prevail. This will change the texture of societies everywhere. Societies will have to adapt and evolve defensive mechanisms and habits to thrive in these new circumstances,” he added….” http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/340788/1/.html

Agreed!  A large scale boycott of the Olympics by athletes and attendees would lose China Billions in revenue and the whole nation loses face.

It might be the final straw that breaks the back of totalitarianism, or at least stops the genocide of the Tibetan culture and nation.

http://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/images/320413/12076597151781263693/A/1/m.jpg

More pics and video link at http://enpf.chinabroadcast.cn/TalkChina/forums/thread/62795.aspx

Don’t waste my time, uhh…..........

If you’re too tired to watch 2 videos and look at a few pictures, then you must be the one who is (mentally) disabled,  Outraged.

The slideshow is of happier times…......

As it is Chalmers, I’d like to see an independant analysis of this.  It still doesn’t APPEAR that someone attacked this girl.  I see what appears to be “cops” around her.

And, just in case you might think that things weren’t reported in the media in China…...

VIDEO http://2008.sohu.com/20080408/n256169336.shtml

Chalmers,

In your first “example” (the video) I do not SEE ANYONE attack this athelete.  Since I do not read chinese, I can only get my “clues” from he music.  In that regard, it looks to me to be a propaganda video.

In your second “example” I do not SEE anyone ATTACK this athelete.

In your third “example” this athelete’s LEG is “hidden” in every shot.  Or did I miss something?

Chalmers, quit posting Chinese propaganda.  Why is this not all over the newswires!

I’m still wondering…do YOU want to torture men or what was your insinuation toward me in your comment on the “Nobody Votes for a Quitter” thread?

Lay it on the line Chalmers.  You love to spew the stuff.  Buck up.

One legged torch-bearing disabled Chinese athlete Jing Jin and her blind companion who were attacked three times in Paris by Tibetan “freedom fighters”

VIDEO http://2008.sohu.com/20080408/n256163920.shtml

PICS http://www.anti-cnn.com/jinjing/paris_protesters_took_advantage.dwt

See PICS - slideshow (34 pics) http://2008.sohu.com/20080409/n256190428.shtml Jing Jin in BeiJing

If there were any question as to whether the Beijing Olympics should be boycotted, this should answer it.

Boycott Now!

(Or perhaps a compromise could be reached, like preventing the display of the Chinese flag, or the use of the word ‘China’ during the games, to avoid blatant ‘propaganda’)