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Lieberman In Decline

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Posted on Apr 7, 2008
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While he continues to get tremendous support from Republicans (go figure), Joe Lieberman is on the outs with Democrats and independents in his home district, according to a new poll. Were an election held today, 74 percent of Democrats would vote for Ned Lamont, while the same percentage of Republicans would vote for Lieberman over their own candidate.

(h/t: Political Wire)

Daily Kos:

Given Lieberman’s high-profile efforts on behalf of John McCain, I wondered how his constituents were taking it. So I had independent pollster Research 2000 reprise a poll I commissioned last year testing a rematch between Ned Lamont and Joe Lieberman. I found last year that buyer’s remorse had set in. It’s even worse this year.

[...] Lieberman has shored up his support with Republicans, who clearly see him as one of their own. He has predictably lost ground among Democrats. But interestingly, he also lost the same amount of ground (six points) with independents.

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By Fadel Abdallah, April 10 at 4:16 pm #
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Well Lefty again! Assuming I hate all Jews as your new ranting claims, that makes me a hater of some 14 million people in the world, which is the total population of the Jews.

On the other hand, you certainly hate 1.4 billion Muslims, or one fifth of humanity, including 350 million Arabs. So my last question for you is this:

Who among us has more capacity for hatred than the the other. If your hate-filled heart has the capacity to absorb the hate of some 1.4 billion peoples, then that makes you the most hating person par excellence in the world.

Congratulations on your new title!

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By Lefty, April 11 at 8:56 pm #
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Re:

Fidel, It’s funny that you don’t even try to address the political substance of my comments.  You don’t have any interest in substantive argument, do you?  Everything is personal for you, isn’t it?  Maybe you don’t recall, but, my first comment on Truthdig directed to you was a genuine inquiry, inviting a genuine, rational, reasonable response, that was met with pure, naked, irrational, hate!

Well, don’t impute your hatred on me, or anyone else, Fidel.  You’ve expressly, explicitly, confessed your hatred of Israel and jews on this and other threads many times.  What you give, I give you back in kind. Not because I hate you, but because you deserve it. 

Fidel, there ARE many who truly hate arabs, islam and muslims.  Most of them are primitive, tribalistic, christians, though, I know of a few tribalistic, jewish haters as well.  Their hate is irrational, almost psychopathic and, in my opinion, a defense mechanism that they use to try to hide the fact that they are weak.  Unlike them, (and you), I do not hate arabs or muslims.  I reject arab, islamist, fundamentalist, hate and predatory evangelism (exactly like a christian), with the amount of force necessary under the circumstances! 

I can’t say that I am close friends with any arabs or muslims.  But, the few that I do know, including a Palestinian refugee/restauranteur, are quite decent, rational, reasonable people.  You, Fidel, are not one of them.

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By PatrickHenry, April 12 at 3:44 am #
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Re: Re:

What substance?

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By dick, April 8 at 10:01 am #
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The Senator from the State of Israel, is no different than the other 534 members of Congress, except he is more up-front about it, and has the support of his electorate and millions of voters elsewhere.

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By weather, April 9 at 1:53 am #
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There is nothing “up-front” about LIEberman - he’s merely the beneficiary of a MSM myth that goes through utter contortions to shape a PR campaign that says America has a ‘special relationship’ w/Israel.
See that relationship for exactly what it is, a bribe that smacks of extortion, deceit and terribly selfish, dangerous motivations.

What could have been one of the coolest places on the Planet is now held in Global contempt just like us - now that’s sad, sick and Ugly. Israel is a land mine of bad karma.
Again,"show me who you walk with and I’ll tell you what you are”.

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By Jim Yell, April 8 at 6:44 am #
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The Trojan Whore

If this man has done any service to the nation and his state it is to spotlight the dangers of an elected public official who feels, having once been elected that he is entitled to office forever.

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By DennisD, April 8 at 6:32 am #
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20/20 hindsight

“Were an election held today, 74 percent of Democrats would vote for Ned Lamont”

Too fu*king late CT. - you blew it and our country is paying the price.

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By Christopher Robin, April 8 at 5:12 am #
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The interesting thing was Lieberman won with the help of a similar demographic that Hillary now enjoys, non-college educated. The Republicans ran an utter fool that wasn’t seriously viable, the vast majority of Republicans voted for Lieberman, many Independents and the uneducated Dems. If the election was among just Democrats, Lamont would have won.

Anyway we’re stuck with him, as we have no recall provision here in CT. If you want a little fun, a small regional newspaper “The Day” recently apologized their endorsement of him.....I think it was too embarrassing to support him, while Lieberman whispers in McCain’s hearing aid? The text of the editorial is below on DemocraticUnderground.com , the newspaper’s link no longer displays the story.

“ We Don’t Know This Sen. Joe ”

Continues:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p hp?az=view_all&address=389x3050828

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By cyrena, April 8 at 3:42 am #
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Why does he have that dog with him, with those red googles on?

Never mind. It’s more than I can take. I don’t wanna know. The dog? OK. I like dogs. (poodles aren’t my favorite though..they yap too much).

The red googles? Nope…

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By SoccerGuy, April 7 at 7:19 pm #
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Howard,

“Americans don’t talk like that”. 
What America are you living in buddy?  Americans, especially republicans say far worse that that. Americans are as mean spirited as anyone else in the world.  Quit trying to put Americans up on some pedestal. With the help of george bush, joe lieberman, karl Rove and many other hoodlums, it is clear Americans have absolutely no claim on intelligence or integrity.  In fact, we are the laughing stock of the world right now.

Liberman, regardless of his ethnicity, is a man with no self respect. He sold out and we should never let him forget it.(He couldn’t get elected as a democrat, so he ran as an independent when all along he was secretly a republican, that is truly disgusting and a abuse the public’s trust

Is “Arabist” even a real word?
“Or Rant”.  What does this mean?

How come anyone who speaks out against the war, phony politicians and even you has an “Arabist agenda”

“Go Joe Lieberman” more like “Go away Joe Liberman…..”

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By Howard, April 7 at 4:45 pm #
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Leave it to this group....

to bring up his being Jewish.  Wasn’t in the article and no one gives a darn except the demented here starting with the first comment below.
Americans don’t talk or think like that

Only ones who care are on an Arabist agenda. Or rant. Quite evident.  Get a life, guys.

go Joe Lieberman !

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By Lefty, April 9 at 12:54 pm #
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Re: Leave it to this group....

Wrong! 

Go back and read my prior posts about arab, islamist, fundamentalist, terrorist, propagandists . . . etc.  Joe Leiberman is no different, and no better than they are!  If he were in Germany in 1940, he would have failed the test of natural selection/survival of the fittest!

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By PatrickHenry, April 7 at 5:05 pm #
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Re: Leave it to this group....

Howie, you only post when the words Israel and jewish are posted.  All other articles at Truthdig which cover a myriad of subjects and we don’t hear a peep from you, what gives?

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By cyrena, April 7 at 8:59 pm #
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Re: Re: Leave it to this group....

Ah Patrick Henry,

YOU know what gives with howie. Of course we never otherwise hear a peep from him, and it’s just as well.

Don’t ‘wish him up’. wink

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By Fadel Abdallah, April 7 at 4:00 pm #
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Hi Lefty!

I was really surprised and stunned that you wrote such strong attack against Joe Lieberman, a Jew who is a strong supporter of Israel, which you always vehemently defend and support against Arabs and Muslims.

What is surprising is that we are seeing eye-to-eye on the issue of Lieberman. But I am wondering if I had initiated such an attack, what would have been your reaction!

Anyway, I congratulate you on liberating yourself from the phobia of Antisemitism.

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By Lefty, April 9 at 1:12 pm #
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Re:

Don’t get all misty eyed on me, Fidel! We’re still enemies! 

You oppose Lieberman because he is a Jew who supports Israel, and you HATE Jews and Israel.  I oppose Lieberman because he’s a right-wing, conservative, neo-con, fascist, asshole, who’s politics is bad for America and for Israel.  Traditionally, Israel is a liberal, socialist constitutional, democracy.  Joe Lieberman and his counterparts within Israeli government are a threat to the future of Israel as a free nation, the same way Bush, Cheney and McCain are a threat to the future of America as a free nation.  In short, Joe Lieberman supports a different Israel than I support.

The only difference between Lieberman and his kind, and you and your kind, is that he’s a Jew and you’re an arab/islamist.  Other than that, you and Lieberman are political twins on opposite sides of a war.

I still support Israel’s right to exist, with secure borders, to include and exclude anyone they choose, and in particular to exclude those sympathetic to Israel’s sworn, proven enemies, and to defend themselves from any and all who threaten or attack them - just like any sovereign nation has the right to do.

So, had you come out and written the same thing that I wrote, I probably would have attacked you on the grounds that basis of your attack is your irrational hatred of Jews and Israel.  Face it Fidel, even if there were no nation of Israel, you would hate Jews, christians and atheists exactly the same way that you hate them now. - because, you are brainwashed to do so.

I hope that clears it up.

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By cyrena, April 7 at 9:09 pm #
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Dear Fadel,

Lefty is like that. Ya kinda have to get to know him. I can well remember getting into some heated exchanges with him over a year ago, until I continued to read from him over time.

He has a bit of a ‘different’ sense of humor, and occassionally manages to squeeze 18 words of profanity into a 20 word post.

STILL, I’ve grown to appreciate him.

My favorite (and I still laugh about this everytime I see a post from Lefty) is his name for Ahmadinejad. Now, I don’t mean this irreverantly, (and I don’t know if Lefty did or not) because I actually like Ahmadinejad. That said, I still have fits of laughter at Lefty’s name for him, which is..

Imadinnerjacket.

There is no possible translation (that I know of at least) for this, to Arabic or Persian, but in English, it does bring a chuckle.

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By Lefty, April 9 at 1:24 pm #
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Re: Re:

I stole “Imadinnerjacket” from liberal radio host, Stephanie Miller (whose father was the running mate of Barry Goldwater, a liberal by todays fascist standards).  If you can find her on the dial, or internet, she’s hilarious!

From what little I’ve heard and seen of Ima’ he seems like somewhat of a dim wit, not bright enough to lead an entire country.  He has been accused of denying that the Holocaust ever happened.  [BTW, I’m old enough to have met more than one Holocaust survivor personally. I know of one who is still alive in his 80’s.  He has the numbers tatood on his forearm].  I didn’t hear him say it, and I don’t necessarily trust the representations of the fascist, right-wing, American, MSM.  If he really did say it, then he’s a dim witted clown, never to be taken seriously by anyone who matters, ever again.

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By Pacrat, April 7 at 3:46 pm #
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Liebermouse a louse?

Poor little Joe. How dare he abandon his voters without notifying them? Why didn’t he have the guts to announce becoming a republican, even though it would have cost him the election.

Then he threw in his lot with McCain and abandoned his so-called principles even further. Of course, Gore was mistaken to think that bringing him on as vp candidate would win the Jewish vote, but that’s not the only mistake in Gore’s life. Enough about that already.

Liebermouse should be dumped by both political parties!

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By PatrickHenry, April 7 at 3:29 pm #
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Flag at half staff

When he finally gets booted out of office, Israel will proclaim a day of mourning and my friends and I will have a party.

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By Lefty, April 7 at 2:08 pm #
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There can be no bigger fool or hypicrite in the world than a neo-con, fascist, Jew, like Joe Lieberman.  If Joe were in Germany in 1940, he would have died in the gas chamber, and while choking on Zyklon B, he would have argued that the Nazis were on the right track!

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By Rodney, April 7 at 1:57 pm #
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Joe Liberman is a puppet for the Government of Israel.

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