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Maliki Gives Up the FightPosted on Apr 4, 2008
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, just a day after some tough talk, has caved on his promise to disarm militant Iraqis. The news that the Iraqi government would no longer pursue “people who carry weapons” comes on the heels of an Iran-backed truce with rival Shiite leader Moqtada al-Sadr.
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By bozhidar bob balkas, April 7 at 1:40 pm #
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what’s baffling to me is that SD (state department) may have not known that all puppet ‘gov’ts’ fail their masters. some puppet gov’ts’ that germany installed were not only very weak but also very wicked.
Report thisbut, maybe, SD knew its history and expected that iraqi ‘gov’t’ will also fail. i’m, of course, asssuming that it is SD which runs foreign afairs and not bush or cheney. surely, one wouldn’t let bush make the plans for war or occupation. i’m not saying he’s stupid. i’m saying that any politico is quite unknowledgable about so many issues. politicos spend much of their time learning scripts, studying how to get (re)elected, attending meetings, acting, traveling; thus have no time even for own families as other people do, let alone to broaden their knowledge. in addition, they know there are experts in every field who know what’s going on and they can tap it when needed.
just listening to clinton, obama, and mccain shows that they are mere hired guns/mouths. and that’s the way SD lahkes it.
By cyrena, April 6 at 3:31 am #
From Damien Lataan at blogspot
http://lataan.blogspot.com/2008/04/iraq-and-iran-set-t o-explode-al-sadr.html
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“IRAQ AND IRAN SET TO EXPLODE. AL-SADR MAKES HIS POINT HE CAN TAKE ON THE U.S. IN A GUERRILLA WAR AT ANY TIME.
The recent attempt by Nouri al-Maliki to take on Moqtada al-Sadr has demonstrated two points; first, Maliki has no real powerbase without US support, and secondly, even with US support, al-Sadr has the ability to take on the Iraqi puppet government and the US in a guerrilla war with recruits joining any future insurgency that al-Sadr leads actually coming from the US-trained Iraqi police and army while others simply refuse to fight against the insurgents. One wonders how many Iraq government soldiers and police would have been willing to die for the American cause had push really come to shove, especially considering that most Iraqi army soldiers and police are only there because there is no other work and being part of the Iraqi puppet government forces provides a living as well as an opportunity to join in the insurgency against the US when the appropriate moment arrives.
Naturally, the neocon spin on recent events has been fairly predictable with one of their most prolific propagandists, Frederick Kagan, writing in the neocon comic, the Weekly Standard, on Wednesday that, The Sadrists and Special Groups failed to set Iraq alight despite their efforts--Iraqi forces kept the Five Cities area (Najaf, Karbala, Hillah, Diwaniyah, and Kut) under control with very little Coalition assistance; Iraqi and Coalition forces kept Baghdad under control.
This is the sort of complete nonsense and plain lies that one has come to expect from the neocons whenever things dont go their way. It hasnt occurred to the neocons that al-Sadr was merely testing the waters. Contrary to Kagans assertion that the Iraqi forces had everything under control, they were actually rapidly losing control to the point where they had to call in US and British airpower and, at the same time as losing control, were also losing men to al-Sadrs Mahdi army.
The Mahdi army leader has proved that he can take on the US in a guerrilla war but it is clear that this will only happen if the US attacks Iran. Iran does not wish to invite the US to attack them and, for this reason, have asked al-Sadr to put a stop to the fighting and have negotiated a settlement with al-Maliki to not arrest al-Sadrs Mahdi army militiamen.
However, it seems this may be only a temporary truce as al-Sadr prepares for a renewed showdown with the US and Iraq government.
But the big issue is not so much al-Sadrs ability to take on the US and the Iraqi puppet government but the support al-Sadr is clearly receiving from Iran whose influence on Iraqi affairs is so obviously beginning to acutely annoy the Americans. As well as being able to demonstrate that they have the ability to actually stop and start major fighting in Iraq, they are also supplying increasingly both arms and training to Iraqi Shiite militias of both factions within the Iraqi Shiite grouping, al-Sadr and the Mahdi militia and al-Hakim leader of the al-Badr militia who, while still having their differences, have called a truce with each other in order to confront their common enemy, the US.”
Reference the link at top for the rest
Report thisBy cyrena, April 5 at 10:13 pm #
Good question expat, about the Kurds. I really suspect that they probably DO know by now, (that we are bald face liars) as the rest of the world has obviously figured out.
At this point, I think I’m more worried about the large portion of the 300+ million Americans that STILL HAVEN’T FIGURED IT OUT!
That’s what happens to a population that’s been under control of a dictatorship or totalitarian regime for nearly 8 years.
Confusion, chaos, terror and instability are the tools of the dictator, and so it becomes the mentality of far too much of the population subjected to it. Confused, terrorized, and existing in chaos, divided and doing themselves in, while the terrorists rub their hands together in demonic glee, and prepare to escape with all the loot.
And 50 years from now, when I’m long gone, all too many of us will still be wondering, “What happened?”
That is if there are any of ‘us’ left.
Report thisBy msgmi, April 5 at 3:12 pm #
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Historically the Middle East Street never supported proxy leadership except in the minds of the neoCONS and the GW VP-team which is a committee of ex-oil industry dons/donnas, neoCON-academics and former Vietnam era multi-exemption draft evaders. The neoCON cabal will only sacrifice others and not their own. The claim that the surge in Iraq is a success is an illusion; a continuous smokescreen of deception. U.S. troop levels remain constant, Sunni tribes are paid off just the same as Saddam paid them off for decades, and the Iraqi force allegiance remains in the tribal inner tent and not to the Maliki government. The strategic concept of regime change has become an unknown end game for future regional stability.
Report thisBy Peter RV, April 5 at 2:52 pm #
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Maliki’s troops are simply occupator’s collaborationists mercenaries who are next to worthless as a fighting force. We have forgotten that U.S. set up a South Vietnamese Army which collapsed as soon as our troops left that country ( but not before the U.S. commander in Vietnam assured us “they can hack it” -his own words).
Report thisWhen are the stupid Americans going to learn that those who resist their occupation are the true freedom fighters who represent the wishes and the spirit of the oppressed, occupied people?
Our Army being also completely mercenary can always retreat back to the U.S. The Iraqi’s can’t.
Any “Iraqi Army” we set up will last no longer than the moment our troops leave.
By DennisD, April 5 at 1:27 pm #
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PatrickHenry - I think you’re being overly optimistic, he’ll be “governing” from his new green zone in Geneva long before the first U.S. troop transport leaves for good.
Report thisBy dale Headley, April 5 at 11:58 am #
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Those who say the “surge” is working are the same people who say we’re not in a recession. And they are correct - we’re not in a recession; we are in a depression. And it’s also true that Iraq is a catastrophe.
Report thisBy patrick miller, April 5 at 8:53 am #
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He never left.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, April 5 at 8:16 am #
The amount of time Maliki will remain in office after the U.S. leaves.
Report thisBy bozhidar bob balkas, April 5 at 7:40 am #
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such as pavelic, nedic who promise a lot but deliever little. reports of maliki’s actions of last two weeks r sketchy to make a conclusion how independent was maliki when he began arresting members of mahdi army and finally ordered an assault on it.
Report thisb it as it may, we can b sure that he’s a puppet and is mostly answerable tu US or SD(state dep’t)
the optimum for US is obtainig more peaceful occupation of iraq. thus far, and as far as i know, no occupator has enjoyed a peaceful occupation. SD may never obtain it. while mccain, obama, clinton, bush may b dummies, SD does not employ them; thus it knows what it’s doing and what it wants. thank u
By Greg Bacon, April 5 at 7:34 am #
British fear US commander is beating the drum for Iran strikes
By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:53am BST 05/04/2008
British officials gave warning yesterday that America’s commander in Iraq will declare that Iran is waging war against the US-backed Baghdad government.
A strong statement from General David Petraeus about Iran’s intervention in Iraq could set the stage for a US attack on Iranian military facilities, according to a Whitehall assessment. In closely watched testimony in Washington next week, Gen Petraeus will state that the Iranian threat has risen as Tehran has supplied and directed attacks by militia fighters against the Iraqi state and its US allies.
The outbreak of Iraq’s worst violence in 18 months last week with fighting in Basra and the daily bombardment of the Green Zone diplomatic enclave, demonstrated that although the Sunni Muslim insurgency is dramatically diminished, Shia forces remain in a strong position to destabilise the country.
“Petraeus is going to go very hard on Iran as the source of attacks on the American effort in Iraq,” a British official said. “Iran is waging a war in Iraq. The idea that America can’t fight a war on two fronts is wrong, there can be airstrikes and other moves,” he said.
“Petraeus has put emphasis on America having to fight the battle on behalf of Iraq. In his report he can frame it in terms of our soldiers killed and diplomats dead in attacks on the Green Zone.”
Tension between Washington and Tehran is already high over Iran’s covert nuclear programme. The Bush administration has not ruled out military strikes.
In remarks interpreted as signalling a change in his approach to Iran, Gen Petraeus last week hit out at the Iranian leadership. “The rockets that were launched at the Green Zone were Iranian-provided, Iranian-made rockets,” he said. “All of this in complete violation of promises made by President Ahmadinejad and the other most senior Iranian leaders to their Iraqi counterparts.”
The humiliation of the Iraqi prime minister Nouri al-Maliki by the Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in fighting in Basra last week triggered top-level warnings over Iran’s strength in Iraq.
Gen Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Baghdad, will answer questions from American political leaders at the US Congress on Tuesday and Wednesday before travelling to London to brief Gordon Brown.
The Wall Street Journal said last week that the US war effort in Iraq must have a double goal.
“The US must recognise that Iran is engaged in a full-up proxy war against it in Iraq,” wrote the military analyst Kimberly Kagan.
There are signs that targeting Iran would unite American politicians across the bitter divide on Iraq. “Iran is the bull in the china shop,” said Ike Skelton, the Democrat chairman of the Armed Services Committee. “In all of this, they seem to have links to all of the Shi’ite groups, whether they be political or military.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2 008/04/05/wiran105.xml
Report thisBy weather, April 5 at 6:47 am #
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PG;I respect your posts.
Report thisPls. consider 9/11’s innate fraud. The event has only fortified MIC as that is precisely part of its planned intent and purpose.
By Expat, April 5 at 6:24 am #
poignant.
Report thisBy Expat, April 5 at 6:22 am #
^ particularly poingant; “Also disturbing is Turkeys military incursion to destroy Kurdish PKK groups in the border region. That confronted the US government with a choice: either to support its NATO ally, or to make good on its commitment to Kurdish leaders to insure their security. It chose the former, and that makes it clear to the Kurds that the United States will sacrifice their security to its larger interests in Turkey.”
This is at least the third time we have directly betrayed the Kurds. My question is this: “When will the Kurds learn we are bald faced liars?”
For myself I hope very soon; they have no time to waste.
Report thisBy cyrena, April 5 at 5:34 am #
Rapid Withdrawal Is Only Solution
By William E. Odom, lieutenant general, USA (retired)
Information Clearinghouse
Wednesday 02 April 2008
Testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Iraq.
Good morning Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. It is an honor to appear before you again. The last occasion was in January 2007, when the topic was the troop surge. Today you are asking if it has worked. Last year I rejected the claim that it was a new strategy. Rather, I said, it is a new tactic used to achieve the same old strategic aim, political stability. And I foresaw no serious prospects for success.
I see no reason to change my judgment now. The surge is prolonging instability, not creating the conditions for unity as the president claims.
Last year, General Petraeus wisely declined to promise a military solution to this political problem, saying that he could lower the level of violence, allowing a limited time for the Iraqi leaders to strike a political deal. Violence has been temporarily reduced but today there is credible evidence that the political situation is far more fragmented. And currently we see violence surge in Baghdad and Basra. In fact, it has also remained sporadic and significant inseveral other parts of Iraq over the past year, notwithstanding the notable drop in Baghdad and Anbar Province.
More disturbing, Prime Minister Maliki has initiated military action and then dragged in US forces to help his own troops destroy his Shiite competitors. This is a political setback, not a political solution. Such is the result of the surge tactic.
No less disturbing has been the steady violence in the Mosul area, and the tensions in Kirkuk between Kurds, Arabs, and Turkomen. A showdown over control of the oil fields there surely awaits us. And the idea that some kind of a federal solution can cut this Gordian knot strikes me as a wild fantasy, wholly out of touch with Kurdish realities.
Also disturbing is Turkey’s military incursion to destroy Kurdish PKK groups in the border region. That confronted the US government with a choice: either to support its NATO ally, or to make good on its commitment to Kurdish leaders to insure their security. It chose the former, and that makes it clear to the Kurds that the United States will sacrifice their security to its larger interests in Turkey.
Turning to the apparent success in Anbar province and a few other Sunni areas, this is not the positive situation it is purported to be. Certainly violence has declined as local Sunni shieks have begun to cooperate with US forces. But the surge tactic cannot be given full credit. The decline started earlier on Sunni initiative. What are their motives? First, anger at al Qaeda operatives and second, their financial plight.
Their break with al Qaeda should give us little comfort. The Sunnis welcomed anyone who would help them kill Americans, including al Qaeda. The concern we hear the president and his aides express about a residual base left for al Qaeda if we withdraw is utter nonsense. The Sunnis will soon destroy al Qaeda if we leave Iraq. The Kurds do not allow them in their region, and the Shiites, like the Iranians, detest al Qaeda. To understand why, one need only take note of the al Qaeda public diplomacy campaign over the past year or so on internet blogs. They implore the United States to bomb and invade Iran and destroy this apostate Shiite regime. As an aside, it gives me pause to learn that our vice president and some members of the Senate are aligned with al Qaeda on spreading the war to Iran.”
More at the link
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040408D.shtml
No surprises on this last part. Our VP has been doing whatever he can to spread the war to Iran. It was the plan all along.
Report thisBy Purple Girl, April 5 at 3:21 am #
So Americans want to be able to own & carry fire arms in areas where Crime is not even a problem, yet we expect these people who can barely make it to the market with out fear of being killed to give up their ability to defend themselves (they are not being illed for their money- but for the philosophies!)Granted violence begets violence. But at some point one mus tbeable to defend onesself under such conditions ‘Our’ Gov’t, their INC Bosses and their Foreign Sponsors have Created. Let’s be honest 9/11 was an Attack on the MIC, Not US. Our citizens were placed in Harms way by these enitites and their Unethical Global Business Stratedgy. We hav enot only been USED as Camflague for their crimes- but also Human Shields
Report thisBy Thomas Billis, April 4 at 10:09 pm #
After caving on his statement to disarm insurgents Iraqi’s Maliki has decided to join the American Democratic party.He said he thinks now that he has learned the art of caving in to the opposition that he will feel right at home.Harry Reid when he heard the news was overjoyed."To have our philosophy of caving in to anybody’s demands start to take hold internationally is a bright day for the Democratic party."Maliki noting that democratic means cave in in Swahili was delighted by Senator Reids statements and looks forward to meeting him and getting his official cave in lapel sticker in the future.
Report thisBy P. T., April 4 at 7:08 pm #
This should make Bush happy since he says that he too opposes gun control.
Report thisBy weather, April 4 at 6:34 pm #
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Where is Donald Rumsfeld now?
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