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Posted on Mar 28, 2008
Highway 443
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An Israeli soldier looks over Highway 443. In recent years access to this important artery into Jerusalem has been denied to Palestinians.

An interim decision by the Israeli Supreme Court on Wednesday marked the beginning of what could become a two-tiered road system in the West Bank. With two separate legal systems for Palestinians and Israelis already in operation, critics fear segregated roads would lead toward further institutionalization of apartheid in the occupied territories.


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BEIT SIRA, West Bank—Ali Abu Safia, mayor of this Palestinian village, steers his car up one potholed road, then another, finding each exit blocked by huge concrete chunks placed there by the Israeli Army. On a sleek highway 100 yards away, Israeli cars whiz by.

“They took our land to build this road, and now we can’t even use it,” Mr. Abu Safia says bitterly, pointing to the highway with one hand as he drives with the other. “Israel says it is because of security. But it’s politics.”

The object of Mr. Abu Safia’s contempt—Highway 443, a major access road to Jerusalem—has taken on special significance in the grinding Israeli-Palestinian conflict. For the first time, the Supreme Court, albeit in an interim decision, has accepted the idea of separate roads for Palestinians in the occupied areas.

The Association for Civil Rights in Israel told the Supreme Court that what was happening on the highway could be the onset of legal apartheid in the West Bank—a charge that makes many Israelis recoil.

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By jimmyjam, April 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

And what have you done for your country today?

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 31, 2008 at 8:53 pm Link to this comment

Here comes the rabid dog, Lefty, barking out his venomous saliva, when he manages to get loose from the treatment sessions for his rabies. These threads would really become very boring without his occasional incoherent rants. Bring it on filthy lefty. This is free entertainment!

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By PatrickHenry, March 31, 2008 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

Lefty

I would cut most if not all of that aid too.

I support U.S. aid in natural emergencies, tractors and seeds for the hungry and thats it.

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By msgmi, March 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
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Israel will never relent the gains it has achieved over the years. Why should it. Even if Condi is on board the Jerusalem Express for Peace, it has no stops. Condi et al may seem delusional, but in fact she and the administration have scripted a fictional peace process which has never had any legs. When it comes to Condi’s track record, cartoons are more belivable.

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By bozhidar bob balkas, March 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment
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isr possesses de facto all of palestine; and the only ‘lawmaker’ that will prevail is US and to lesser degree EU or christian lands. nevertheless, an israel sans pals hadn’t yet been obtained. even so, jews would not b happy since neither of the two larger claims for land would h. been fulfilled; at least for some time.
zionists cannot understand why US can’t permit them to do waht they so much yearn for: all of excanaan. i educe, that US is scared of consequences if jews would oust pals at this time or even decades from now. it’s the oil. oiless lands andempirers would not b amused w. the expulsion.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

Damn PH, I agree with you on this one also. But somewhere down the the never ending paper trail, it will be linked that Israel is a domestic problem for us. I’m sure someone will find a correlation some where.

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By jimmyjam, March 30, 2008 at 7:54 am Link to this comment

Tell me bout this dangerous ground, and Internet stalking, It sounds like you made a threat toward me, and if it’s about me posting on this article, you might want to check the times the post went up, I went on hours before you.

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By cyrena, March 30, 2008 at 12:52 am Link to this comment

Meantime, this just in. (from al-Jezeera how else would we be advised of the whereabouts of the US secretary of state). Yep, Condi the Rice is back in Israel. Maybe she and Olmert have something going. They appear to be having a great time over an intimate dinner.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8BEA3E69-BEA7-41FE-8B3F-F34577431DCB.htm


“Condoleezza Rice, US secretary of state, has arrived in Israel for talks with Israeli and Palestinian officials with the stated aim of boosting peace negotiations.

Rice said on Saturday that the visit would focus on improving Palestinian movement and access in the West Bank, monitoring the peace talks and keeping Arab neighbours involved.

“I will spend a good deal of time on issues concerning the West Bank, including ways to improve movement and access,” she said.

“I would like to see real concrete progress on the ground.”

The two-day visit comes just three weeks after Rice’s last trip to the region.

Palestinians say that Israel is undermining Mahmoud Abbas, the president, in his struggle with Hamas by failing to remove restrictions on movement.

But Israel contends that checkpoints, which are stifling the Palestinian economy, are necessary to keep out suicide bombers…..

Meantime…

Iraq is still burning…

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By cyrena, March 30, 2008 at 12:42 am Link to this comment

I’m not sure what your point is here jimmyjam.

But…you’re treading on some really dangerous ground here.

Might even be called ‘internet stalking’.

There are some laws you know…

Do I have to add you to the same list with the others treading on equally dangerous ground.

You COULD really JAMM yourself up jimmy boy.

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By driving bear, March 29, 2008 at 10:40 pm Link to this comment

First off the so called Palestinians are not native to the holyland Most of the so called Palestinians came after 1860 when the jews started returning to their land. Second the jews are not settling the land but are resettling the land that was stolen from them 1900 years ago

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm Link to this comment

What will you do when , if Obama wins and has to suck on the teat of Israel, just like the Clinton’s did ? Do you think he wont. He will be kissing Jew ass just like everyone else, what will you do then?  Oh it’s ok it’s just politics!!! or will it be Some of my best friends are Jews, you people disgust me.

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment

Lisa Hajjar, University of California Press, 2005 No conflict of interest there…..

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment

jimmyjam,

Where exactly have you ALWAYS heard Muslims say this about death to Jews and Americans. Where exactly do YOU hang out, to ALWAYS hear this? I’ve rarely ever heard Muslims say this, not here in the US, and not in the various portions of the Middle East where I have frequently visited.

Wait, I take that back. I DO remember, (though it’s been a while, since I’m no longer subjected to the red-necks native to the southern portion of the US) when the original US hate group, the KKK, were sprouting these identical epithets;  DEATH to Jews, Jews are dirty, etc. BUT, they were also saying the same about African-Americans (though they called them worse names) and Catholics as well. So, they just combined several of their hate victims into the one terrorist movement that was the KKK. So, they were the originals.

Now of course they were around even BEFORE Hitler was doing the same thing in Germany. (or maybe they evolved as anti-Semitists, anti-black, anti-everything but WASP around the same time). Anyway, yep…these words have been uttered over and over again here in America, from the mouths of the same gang that Holocausted the original inhabitants of these now so-called United States.

You must have missed that part of the history. Too bad, since it’s been the larger chunk of it. That means that you don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s not really anything to be proud of.

As for AMERICA emitting the same sentiments “Death to ANYBODY” against any other group or nation state, I guess we just need to did out that old adage, that ACTIONS speak LOUDER than WORDS.

Have you noticed the bombs dropping over the Middle East (specifically but not limited Iraq) during the past SEVERAL years? (yeah, the ones coming from US military aircraft). Have you noticed (in and around the same vicinity) that close to a million CIVILIANS in have been killed by these same bombs, and bullets..ALSO donated by and delivered by the US MILITARY? And then there are the other 4 million Iraqis that have been displaced by the same. Notice them? You should.  That’s where your tax dollars are going.

So, if you noticed, you might gather that the America (at least the US government) has no need for words such as DEATH to the ARABS, or DEATH to the Muslims. We’ll just DO it! No need to make all of those rhetorical pronouncements. Actions speak louder than words, and America has made that DEATH to MILLIONS a reality.

Who needs pronouncements, when tax payers are footing the bill for the weapons and merchants of death? They just DO IT!

Meantime, don’t forget to tell me where you hang out, where you’ve ALWAYS heard Muslims coming up with this stuff. Sounds like you might be tuning into some extremist terrorists spots, and if that’s the case, we’ll have to alert the Homeland Security folks to check you out. It’s only our patriotic duty to report potential terrorist sympathizers.

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By cyrena, March 29, 2008 at 6:04 pm Link to this comment

I would argue that this is far, far, from the ‘onset’ of legal apartheid in the West Bank. It’s been existent for decades, as clearly represented by the Israeli Military Court System as it operates at the center of longest conflict in the history of the world, and is foundational to maintaining it.

Read:

“CourTinG ConFlicT
The Israeli Military Court System in the West Bank and Gaza”

-Lisa Hajjar, University of California Press, 2005

The paradox is that Isreal actually believes they’re conducting some sort of real exercise in justice.

Meantime, this two-tier road system is only the legalization of what has long been in effect in the West Bank, and Jerusalem are concerned in so far as the transportation infrastructure is concerned. The Israeli settlers in the West Bank all have special license plates that whiz them right through the multiple check points scattered all over the place. Check points that serve to create long and out of the way routes for the Palestinians and even longer waits in lines at all of these check points.

Palestinians DIE or are routinely KILLED at check points. Getting to hospital to deliver a baby or because of a heart attack? Well, Palestinians take their chances getting across those check points. Trying to get from home to school/work/mosque? Well, prepare for a billion check points (all manned by Israeli Military).

So..apartheid is apartheid. Legalizing it is certainly horrific, but it’s still apartheid, no matter how one cuts it.

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By weather, March 29, 2008 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment
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You’re a fraud, what’s that like?

Before Israel, Islam was of little concern to America, but keep lying to yourself.

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

Everything you mentioned is a domestic problem.

Defending Israel isn’t

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 10:54 am Link to this comment

have always heard Muslims say Death to all Jews ,Jews are dirty,death to Americans, When have Jews said that or Americans for that matter. By the way did you see the new dutch comedy, kind of new the ending though…

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 10:49 am Link to this comment

Best comment today

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By jimmyjam, March 29, 2008 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

Damn PH something wrong with defending Israel? I believe the worlds Aids crisis can be handled without our tax dollars, I believe the immigration problem can be handled without our tax dollars, I believe the welfare problem can be handled without our tax dollars, I believe all Places of higher education can run without our tax dollars. See how stupid your statement is…

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By PatrickHenry, March 29, 2008 at 7:36 am Link to this comment

The only time I see you at Truthdig howard is when you are defending Israel.

I believe Israel can do what it wants without U.S. taxdollars or defense treaties.

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By Howard, March 29, 2008 at 4:33 am Link to this comment

Irelandism is ok
Arabism is ok
Britainism is ok
Germanism is ok
and so is advocacy for Israel and it’s rebirth.
Called Zionism.

Is ok.

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By weather, March 29, 2008 at 2:04 am Link to this comment
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a country so toxic, it loves to be hated.

While this dark pathology is a ‘made in Israel’ by product, its leeched into our ecosystem and made us very sick.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 28, 2008 at 10:28 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Gorbachov “tore down that wall” in Berlin in the 1980’s…...

Since then, who has been building WALLS? The USA and ISRAEL!!!!

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By P. T., March 28, 2008 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment

U.S. tax dollars at work.

The indigenous Palestinian people can’t drive on their own stolen land.  But don’t call Zionism “racist.”  wink

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By Howard, March 28, 2008 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment

Israelis have been killed by gunfire on that road and many injured from stone-throwing.

No end to the violence there on the road and the Palestinain Authority, which has thousands of men under arms, has not gotten control of it, so one cannot blame the Israel’s for doing this.  If ruling goes forward….it will be a good thing.

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By Muscleboy, March 28, 2008 at 5:38 pm Link to this comment

Yes too bad these fascists are now running Israel and the USA—super low life demonic trash is the best I can say about them.  Nothing but a load of low life criminals.  They do not represent even the people of Israel who are 65 plus percent in favor of complete cessation of hostilities by the Israeli government.  It’s a bunch of criminal lunatics who have taken over Israel and the USA.  Israel, ironically, was made into Israel by massive acts of terrorism against the Brits.  Now they are trying to do everything to condemn the use of terrorism which is the only real weapon occupied people would have against the fascist occupiers.  Really if you compare the living conditions of the Palestinians to the Israelis you will quickly realize that it is the Israelis who are terrorizing the Palestinians… taking them from their homes and putting them in veritable concentration camps and doing things like tattooing them with numbers just like the Nazis did.  They bulldoze and destroy homes and businesses with helicopter gunships and bombs of mostly innocent civilians on a daily basis.

The Orthodox Jews call the very existence of Israel a horrible act of blasphemy against God and they call the Zionists incapable of anything but evil and they say Israel must be dismantled and turned back into the peaceful state of Palestine where Jews Christian and Muslims lived together in harmony.  I don’t know if this is practical but it seems more and more true with each passing day that the Zionists that are actually ending up running Israel have no desire for any kind of two state or peaceful process of any kind.  They continue to assault and terrorize the Palestinians even murdering the peace workers coming from nations including our own.  They seem to be hell bent on trying to destroy any possibility of a Palestinian state.  And the minimal efforts the Palestinians have made in retaliation to the atrocities of the Israeli government certainly are not the cause of the problem.  The cause is a rotten criminal anti-american traitor in the White House who makes no real effort at peace and the most fascist extremist elements now running Israel who are decidedly criminals themselves.

But contrary to may good Orthodox Jewish brothers I still have hope of a two state solution.  But it cannot come about without a very heavy hand by the US against the extremists in Israel and in equal support of the interests of Palestinians.  Nothing less than the full greenline Palestine must be made real with a complete removal of all Israeli settlements and compensation of both the settlers and the Palestinians for there loses.  All the fascist pact with Israel has done is made the world hate isreal more than ever.  We can change this starting tomorrow.  Good Israelis and Palestinians can live together in love and dignity.

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm Link to this comment

So what’s new about Israel under the sun?! They came as marauders and colonialist occupiers; they mass massacred a large number of the natives; they dispossessed another large number of them; they subjected the unlucky survivors to lives of humiliation, mass imprisonment, and racist apartheid laws. So in light of this, why is it strange that they make part of the stolen land for their exclusive racist use as a highway?!

But whenever Israel commits a new crime, and there is chance it would be reported in the Western media, one should be reminded about the crimes of Israel’s so-called allies and friends in the West, and particularly the U.S., for enabling all these continued crimes through American taxpayers money and the Israeli-occupied American political establishment!

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By Blackspeare, March 28, 2008 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Sounds a lot like driving in NJ!

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By Joe, March 28, 2008 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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The sooner this Apartheid is officialy recognized world wide the sooner it can be torn down and sent to the oblivion of history. Zionists are digging themselves in a deeper hole all the time .. just remember South Africa!

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By dick, March 28, 2008 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment
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History shows as long as there are non-Jews living in Palestine no peace is posible. The USA has boldly and recklessly entered this quagmire for over 60 years, with no end to the mayhem, violence, and bloodshed .

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