Excellent observations. As I have said on Huffington Post: a benevolent dictator or a malevolent dictator, is still a dictator.

They did get into trouble for that - and it was investigated some time ago…. (Romanian TV)

One has to wonder if Speaker Pelosi is not the single most confused person holding high government office in the United States. (Third in line for the U.S. Presidency) She’s photographically depicted here exchanging prayerful salutations with the Dalai Lama at the same time she’s calling for an “investigation” of the Chinese government.

To say she’s gotten herself in a fine mess would take way more words than Truthdig allows. Holding to highlights, rather lowlights, these comments:

First, the Dalai Lama is, or was, a dictator, albeit a beneficent one, of the kind most all people sometimes long for when confronted with government in a state (so to speak) of perpetual stalemate. In the case of our own, thanks not least to Speaker Pelosi among so many other supposedly democratically elected officials.

A dictator might be beneficent or he/she might not, which is the central problem with wishing for, never mind having (what one sometimes wishes for) a dictatorial/monarchical ruler, whatever their religious credentials. Should Tibetans regain independence as yet one more sovereign nation-state, the next Dalai Lama might not be so nice a guy.

Second, Speaker Pelosi suffers from a considerable lack of credibility when she calls for an investigation of one blatantly authoritarian regime but not for one less blatantly authoritarian; namely, the one of which she is a part.

Briefly, the Chinese government needn’t bother with signing statements that exempt them from the any law, since they don’t pretend to much more than authoritarianism (thankfully insofar as half-way honest—less hypocritical); anymore than would the Dalai Lama pretend to constitute a democracy were the Chinese to hand Tibet back to him on a silver platter. Just because a dictator is a nice guy doesn’t make rule by a single person okay.

Third, fourth, fifth, sixth… Where stop? Presumably, Speaker Pelosi is also an advocate of the “spreading of democracy,” same as her President. Or not, apparently, same as her President? Who knows what she really thinks since she won’t say more than that impeachment of our own guy is “off the table,” and now that the Chinese government should be investigated for THEIR violations of human rights. (By whom? Given sovereign nation-state system that pretty much allows the government of each and every one to do as it likes—to the extent capable of doing so. Regardless of body of international law that is no more systematically ignored by the Chinese than by the United States.) While the government of the people Rep. Pelosi supposedly represents, along with her House and Senate cohort, in collusion with their President, pursue wars of conquest that are no more justified by excuses offered up by them than is the occupation (and settlement) of Tibet justified by excuses offered up by the Chinese government on behalf of citizens of China. At least that government doesn’t pretend to be engaged in “spreading democracy” as it pursues geopolitical (economic at bottom) interests.

By now, just about every less-than-super nation-state is or recently was (or soon will be) a tragedy, because super powers need what their super citizens want, and because if they can’t buy whatever at a price determined solely by their governments—in collusion with whatever super private sectors—armed aggression followed by oppressive occupation is easy enough (Though not so easy for those who serve in militaries like our own, nor likely for those in the Chinese military either. Indoctrination isn’t so hard either). Might making right.

Please, Speaker Pelosi, spare us the hypocrisy (talk of conscience) and then see about making a minimum of sense when you finally do speak of doing something—first for the people you were elected to represent, maybe after that about who else is doing what to whom.

I could’nt help but notice Nancy’s picture juxtaposed with images depicting the floods in the midwest,on another site.

People are suffering here too Nancy, sorry if that interferes with your good time.

MYOB = MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, Ann Landers famous response. This is what these so called politicians should do. Certainly there is more than enough that needs to be taken care of in America and especially with the current residents in the White House. I don’t think this latest stunt is in Nancy’s job description.

Nancy it’s time to return home and quit trying to organize how other countries run themselves. You were voted into your job by the American people and your first obligation is to get your ass back home and do the job you were hired to do.See that justice is done here in America first. IMPEACHMENT NOW. You cannot fix other countries problems while your country is disintegrating at an alarming rate.

Riot in Tibet: True face of western media http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas

Riot Reports Show Media Bias in West - Chinese netizens, including students studying overseas, have been angered by biased and sometimes dishonest reports about the recent riots in Tibet by some Western media…..

Full China coverage - Lhasa Riot http://english.cri.cn/3126/2008/03/20/Zt1321@336118.htm

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AND, also, the CIA in Tibet since 1956! Operation Shadow Tibet Circus…..

The CIA in TIBET 1 http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhDBo6x2ZY&feature=related ...in six parts (check ‘related video’) through to…..
The CIA in TIBET 6 http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMV0-KOY1k&feature=related

TIBETAN MAN: “...I don’t see our armed struggle as something that was helpful…. only at a certain point in our history….. something that is finished…... we should look at it as one chapter….. not a continuing struggle for freedom…. one that still has some meaning.”

US CIA MAN: ”...look at the final result…. that’s a very sad commentary…. if we look at Tibet as about the best that we could do, then I say that we have failed miserably….

Don’t forget to check out the Miss Tibet video…..

“I respect His Holiness and I follow his teachings,” she said, saying the phrase “role model” was grossly insufficient to describe the impact that the Tibetan spiritual leader has had on her and on the world, “because he is everything.”

In an interview with the BBC, Chungtak said she was shocked when she was asked to leave for her refusal to wear the sash because “this is a beauty pageant, it’s not at all related to politics.” http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=i4iNenR205o&feature=related

Nancy Pelosi is just another phony politician.

^ because China is the antithesis of the spirit of the games.  Couple this with their statement that they won’t allow “live” broadcasts from the games; WTF?????  We’ve given them one pass too many; time to grow some balls and say no!
Oh; I forgot; we owe them a trillion dollars we don’t have; never mind!

Pelosi is the worst House Leader I can recall. She has done nothing for this country regarding the atrocities which this Gov’t has committed. She is ineffectual at the least- co conspirator more likely. she is a disgrace to the Dem Party,the Nation and Women- Weak and Feeble minded.
her words as as Hollow there as they are Here.
Step Down Nancy, you have no place as a public Servant- the concept Alludes You.
As For China- Boycott the Olympics. Stop allowing their crap, slave labor produced Commodities in to our country. Make the corrupt Banking entities in this country liquidate and pay back the debt they borrowed from them- backed by OUR FUTURES. If they can’t come up with the money- Let China decide how to get it out of them- Literally send the CEO’sCFO’sCOO’s over to ‘pay ’ their Gambling Debt. WE did not make th eDeal - they did, so it is their Responsiblity.

She went there to get her blessing, Thomas Billis…...

Ok Douglas, I’ve finally figured it out..about your obsession with ‘white women’. Nobody else is talking about them, but you do all the time.

That’s it. You’re an old disgruntled white woman..musta been ditched by your hunk of a black man somewhere along the way, and you’ve been taking it out on the rest of the world ever since.

Whew..glad we finally got THAT figured out.

It explains everything.

Now, quit picking on Obama’s mother, and stop stalking him. He’s got a wife, and so he has no need for you as an old white woman.

By Aegrus, March 21 at 12:00 pm #
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Re: Re:

<<No, we impeach presidents for lying to congress and the American people, which is precisely what this administration has done.>>

Ooops - Congress already did two bipartisan investigations into this very topic and found no lying.  Do you suggest we keep investigating until they agree with you?

Thanks Beerdoctor..

Yep, I read the barbara ehrenreich article yesterday, as it is posted on a number of sites. She’s great. Molly may not be with us, but Barbara is, and we’ve got others.

I should mention how grateful I am for her too.

Nancy Pelosi is clearly a stain upon my home (native) state of California. I admit that I never realized just how awful she was, but then maybe that’s because there never was a reason to be aware until these past few years.

It’s not all that much different from Hillary Clinton. If I’d been a New Yorker 7 1/2 years ago, I probably would have supported her for the Senate myself. (actually, I’m sure I would have).

Needless-to-say, (though Samantha Powers did) she’s a monster. I’ve seen treachery and deceit in my life, and even been victimized in the manner in which her team has done everything possible to lynch Obama. BUT, with each turn, and each new attack, it’s like I’m amazed all over again.

Everytime I think it couldn’t get any more ridiculous, it does. But then, I’ve been saying that for at least 8 years now. One would think that I’d simply stop being surprised at any of it. But, once we get to that point, it means we’ve sunk as low as we can go as well.

Don’t wanna let that happen.

What threat has India ever held towards China? Oh, really, Jim Yell, if you use that as a search term you might find out about the border wars between China and India which the British caused by their occupation of India and their previous invasion of Tibet…..

The British expedition to Tibet in 1903 and 1904 was ...an armed invasion ...by British Indian forces (purportedly) seeking to prevent the Russian Empire from interfering in Tibetan affairs and thus gaining a foothold in one of the buffer states surrounding British India, under similar reasoning which had led British forces into Afghanistan twenty years before…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_expedition_to_Tibet

Tibet was invaded by a British expeditionary force under Colonel Younghusband, ... When the British invaded Tibet, the 13th Dalai Lama went to Mongolia. ...  http://www.friends-of-tibet.org.nz/tibet.html

But China will not leave Tibet until they can be assured that there will be no interference from outside interests trying to pressure China. Unfortunately, Tibetans have little say in that at present.

The main imperative is that China has 14 countries on its borders and a couple more off its Pacific coast. That includes Russia, India and Japan. They have a lot to handle diplomatically and militarily and the last thing they need is another renegade province, uhh.

Formosa or Taiwan was occupied by the Japanese during WW2 and then was a fortress retreat for the KMT and general Chiang Kai Shek’s Nationalist army in 1949. The mainland PRC want it back but are prepared to wait. This week’s presidential election in Taiwan will be telling.

Actually, Taiwan has been more like a 1960’s Cuba than any kind of Puerto Rico in the American experience. And that has been because it has been manipulated constantly by the USA. That might have been a good thing once but the cold war is long over.

Don’t forget that it was the USAF’s general Curtis le May who wanted to use the new H-bomb WMD’s on every city in China back in the 1950’s….... although it was the US which had invaded and split Korea!

The USA will do as much for Tibet as they have for Burma!!!

Give us your diamonds and rubies, too, uhh…

does work IF you type the other ‘a’ in barbaraehrenreich…’-)

and it is a doozy…

Pity that the Reverend Wright hadn’t chosen Nancy Pelosi as a “rich white woman” to smear in his racists attacks…... she is far wealthier than Hillary, uhh.

And never mind that Barack Obama has a white mother and white grandmother. He just lapped that up for 20 years….

Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain’t never been called… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM

As Nancy Pelosi told the Dalai Lama we had such great success in Cambodia bringing peace that we will now help you acheive the great success we have gained in Cambodia.You want our help discover oil.Otherwise lip service is all you will get.

No, we impeach presidents for lying to congress and the American people, which is precisely what this administration has done.

It’s called, High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Everyone should make themselves aware of the pastorate article. Barbara Ehrenreich is one of our greatest assets in the progressive community. It’s a shame Molly Ivins is no longer with us.

Cyrena, some people do not know that Nancy Pelosi is the richest member of the House of Representatives. So despite any humanistic talk, she most certainly knows where her bread is buttered. As far as the Olympics are concerned, that is an entertainment indulgence for the ownership class, foisted upon everyone else again, with all kinds of humanistic excuses. Whether it is war,games, or just good old greed, the moneyed elite have their way. Speaking of which, have you read anything about Hillary Clinton’s ties to a right wing Christian prayer group? There is a piece titled “Hillary’s Nasty Pastorate” by Barbara Ehrenreich, posted two days ago. It can be found at: http://www.barbraehrenreich.com/

Pelosi = Partisan Establishment Lackey of Skeptical Intellect

You can blog your comments on an English-language forum IN China as well if you really want to be heard about Tibet or any other issue…..... http://enpf.chinabroadcast.cn/TalkChina/forums/15/ShowForum.aspx

After what has happened this week, Pelosi endorsing Obama will be her delivering the election to the Republicans….... whose side is she on???

Uhh, if there is one thing that the Chinese respect, it is “sweep your own doorstep first”..... before criticizing others, Aegrus.

Great comments…

And, what can we really honestly say about this? Nancy Pelosi is a fraud. Why is she in Northern India, calling for an investigation into another country’s human rights abuses, when the US and its partners in crime (Israel) have been perpetrating human rights abuses for decades?

And why does the US continue to trade with China, and become trillions of dollars in debt to China, when we KNOW that China has never upheld the Universal laws protecting the rights of human beings? 

How is it that Nancy (impeachment of the table) Pelosi has decided to fill the jobs of various heads of state and/or the US ambassador to India, China, or the UN? Who is SHE to call on the international community to chastise China, when WE are the ones who need to international community to save us from our own terrorists? We have come under the control of the most brutal regime in US history, and Nancy’s ass is off in Northern India, shaking her finger at China.

This is pure lunacy. Somebody should lock Nancy up in the house chambers and not let her out until she has filed impeachment proceedings against the two most dangerous terrorists our country (and the world) has ever known.

Ms Pelosi said she was not seeking a boycott of the Beijing Olympics, but warned that the “world is watching” events in China…”

Yes, the world is watching the USA create its mess in Iraq and in Afghanistan as it did in Korea and in Vietnam - and its 12 aircraft carrier attack groups constantly marauding the world’s oceans.

The people in Tibet may be expressing their frustrations in rising up against the Chinese occupation but they did so by attacking and killing ordinary ethnic Chinese citizens.

From Al Jazeera English, Tibet’s regional governor said security forces had exercised “massive restraint” to quell anti-China riots last week - China struggles with Tibetan unrest - 17 Mar 08 http://youtube.com/watch?v=onB7pIT4mKo

But, actually more can be done for world peace by Nancy Pelosi and her sleepy Democrats by impeaching the Bush Neocon gang without delay. The USA has already lost its moral credibility internationally and has to work urgently to regain it, uhh.

What’s “wrong” is that, in the U.S., we don’t impeach Presidents because we disagree with their Senate ratified policy decisions.  That’s not the way it works.

Earth to lodipete: 1) there have already been two Senate committee reports on the Iraq war (SIC and Silberman/Robb). 2) There’s already been an investigation into the Plame affair.

Nancy, your right to help Tibet. . . but America and the welfare of Americans should get your rapid response as well!

Impeachment is the only resolution to reining in the Bush$Co profiteers! Stop the illegal warfare and plunder of the Iraqis while bringing our overtax and mistreated troops home to proper veterans care at the VA and a GI Bill for education & housing aid to the vets.

Impeachment and PEACE by popular demand!

Fine, Nancy Pelosi, support the Tibetans, get China off their back.

But do the same for the Iraqis and get the US off their back-hint- stop funding the invasion force.

Do the same for the Palestinians, get Israel off their back. hint-stop funding the the Israeli army.

Just keep your nose out of Dalai Lama “ass” ! Pay your attention at our internal affairs.

It’s not the visit, it’s the hypocrisy and ridiculousness of calling for an investigation of someone else’s government by our government. We continue to neglect the problems here at home. Nancy Pelosi is part of the distraction war perpetuated by the Republican Party and the Mainstream Media.

Let me correct your statement Ms. Pelosi: “The situation of President George W Bush is a challenge to the conscience of the world.”
http://thebeerdoctor.newscloud.com/

I salute Nancy Pelosi for her courageous stand on Tibet and her moral support to Tibet spiritual leader Dalai Lama.Take off your blinders world, Nanci Pelosi has not gone to Dalai Lama Ashram to preach but to learn the religion of love and tolerance, one man who really belives in it and is practicing it the day he was born, ” The Spirtual Head, “Dalai Lama,” he is not seeking any riches for himself but freedom to speak and express freely for his oppressed people, The Tibetian not Chinese.Do not muddy the message of Nancy Pelosi visit, which by the way was planned almost 10 years ago.

Hey Nancy;
    How about an investigation into whether G.Bush lied about starting a war in Iraq. Or how about investigating how much money Erik Prince,Ken Lay, etc. shovelled into the Bush & Cheyney bank accounts. OR what role deferment Dickie played in outing a CIA agent. Lots of things to investigate right here at home before you worry about Tibet. Unless Richard Gere has promised to date you if you do him this “service”.

^ good one.

Being a democrat, she should get, ME a cup of coffee. };>

^ our position on human rights; we are in no position to demand anything from China.  This could just as easily be in Iraq or Afghanistan and be us.  This will not be our shinning moment, but rather our moment of cowardice and apparent fear of the country that owns us.  Pelosi has only one thing going for her; she’s a democrat and that should get her a cup of coffee.

Gee, thanks, Mrs. Pelosi!!! Great use of power… hey, crazy idea but….

CALL FOR IMPEACHMENT!!! PUT IMPEACHMENT BACK ON THE TABLE!

What the hell is wrong with you?