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Posted on Mar 19, 2008
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Condoleezza Rice, shown here in 2006, has yet to be seen at a fútbol press conference.

In response to the strengthening of ties between Hugo Chavez and recently elected Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner’s government, Condoleezza Rice will skip the country on a two-day trip to South America. The snub further underscores a growing divide between the U.S.‘s traditional Latin American allies and a growing movement in opposition to U.S. policy in the region.


The New York Times:

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is scheduled to touch down in Brazil on Thursday for a two-day visit to South America, less than two weeks after Colombia’s assassination of a top rebel leader enraged Ecuador’s president and drew threats of military action by Venezuela’s president, Hugo Chávez.

Ms. Rice will visit Brazil and Chile, but notably absent from her itinerary is Argentina, where Cristina Fernández de Kirchner in October became the first woman elected to be the country’s president. The omission underscores Washington’s disappointment with the new Kirchner government, which has continued to strengthen ties with Mr. Chávez while accusing the United States of political motives in an investigation into a suspected $800,000 secret campaign contribution from Venezuela to Mrs. Kirchner.

“The United States is clearly snubbing Argentina,” said Peter Hakim, the president of the Inter-American Dialogue in Washington. “They are unhappy with Argentina in ways that continue with this new president.”

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

Fair enough, I don’t want alienation, but it seems it’s all we’re capable of with Rice and the rest of the cabal.  We should just back off and play nice.  Florida eh?  You have my sympathy.

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By Rick Fencl, March 20, 2008 at 10:00 am Link to this comment
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We cannot have any good relationships with other countries untill we clean our own house first! We no longer have a country with government that serves its own people, we have a country were the people became servants to a rich elite that hijacked the institutions and the law. Only after we restore power to the people, the constitution, etc. we can address foreign issues. Rice represents the hijackers, not the people. The foreigners should also treat them as hijackers and not as legitimate government, except it is not their fault but hours that we tolerate it. Unfortunately we have more ignorant sheeple than people living here at this time in history.

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By Aegrus, March 20, 2008 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

expat, I you’re claims are all valid and spot-on, but this doesn’t mean we can’t hope to change things towards a better future. I’m working in what little ways I can to influence my government, of which is Florida and has direct influence over Caribbean and South American countries, to re-examine our worker rights policies and trade policies. Little things are being done, but I want to focus on the big picture.

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

So…why the hell would they want to listen to anything we have to say?  They have oil; lots of it!  Oil is power….power over us…us, the wasteful, irresponsible, hedonistic, greedy, domineering, pre-emptive assholes, who think they own the world?  Aegrus, grow up; I mean this kindly; you’re smart; this I know; but shed your naiveté; wake up, or it’s time to die.

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

^ When and only when, we accept their right to exist and self govern, can we have an egalitarian relationship.  Friendship is only possible between equals; remember that (very, very important)!  It is one of the few truths of life.  I think you have a shallow knowledge of the history of our “relationship” (kind words) with our southern neighbors.  We have been no less than the worst despots in human existence regarding our policies regarding our southern neighbors.  We are doing to Iraq the things we learned and practiced in the way we dealt with our southern neighbors.  That they will still engage us is a miracle.  I would be less forgiving.

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 7:20 am Link to this comment

We will settle for nothing less than domination.  surely you know this.  Not acceptable!

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By Aegrus, March 20, 2008 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

I’m aware of the bloody relations our country has shared with Central and South America. Still, there is no reason to alienate potential allies if we can make our government progress into something a little more magnanimous.

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By bobnbama, March 20, 2008 at 6:15 am Link to this comment

Chevron’s Rice was instrumental in slaughtering a million dead Iraqis to privatize the second largest oil reserve on the planet. They will remain war criminals until the end of time. Killin and Drillin for Jesus!!

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By Expat, March 20, 2008 at 5:40 am Link to this comment

^ of Texas.  The U.S. should stay the hell out of their business after the policies conducted by this sick country (U.S.A.).  We have killed more people and moved more drugs (coming here) than any drug cartel.  Please, get yourself educated about our past history there.  You can start with Iran/Contra and go forward and backward from there.  Viva Chavez and all of the governments south of Texas that want independence from US!  I’m a grumpy old fart fed the fuck up with our “Death Squad History” in our own hemisphere.  We do not need to guide them in ANYTHING!!!!  PERIOD!

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By Aegrus, March 20, 2008 at 5:13 am Link to this comment

haha, I know it doesn’t make sense considering our government past, but it is what we should be doing regardless of the Bushes, Reagans, Nixons and Clintons.

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By P. T., March 20, 2008 at 12:08 am Link to this comment

The U.S. prefers dealing with Latin American oligarchs, not populist types.

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By Mike, March 19, 2008 at 9:28 pm Link to this comment
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...Argentina don’t need her around, anyhow…

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By msgmi, March 19, 2008 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment
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Condi has shown consistency in being an empty suit in every cabinet post she has held…she is a team player-sychophant, and she carries the same degree of arrogance as her neoCON associates…Putin did the right thing, he snubbed the snub.

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By cyrena, March 19, 2008 at 6:26 pm Link to this comment

Aegrus,

I agree on how this is ridiculous, and I’d go so far as to say that it’s far more than a mistake to alienate ANY South American country.

BUT…I had to sort of chuckle when you said this:

“We just have to help guide them to be more peaceful about their policies.”

WE (as in the US) have help ‘guide’ ANYBODY about being more peaceful about their policies?????????????

I dunno Aegrus…I’m thinking that’s not such a good idea either these days…;)

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By bobnbama, March 19, 2008 at 5:21 pm Link to this comment
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She’s an oil gal from the board of Chevron. Halliburton, House of Saud and Chevron to mention a few of our signing statement Big Oil dictators. You might consider reading Perkins, 2004, Confessions of An Economic Hit Man about the WTO/CIA harnessing of sovereign states to industrialize them with American corporations and reap their natural resources, not unlike Iraq’s oil. Rice is just a Big Oil team member from Chevron which is doing swimmingly on the horrific anniversary of our international oil heist.

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By dick, March 19, 2008 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment
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Condi is all that a diplomat is not.

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By QuyTran, March 19, 2008 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

She only knows how to carry out her “blow job” policy

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By Sol, March 19, 2008 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

While the US economy and reputation hits its lowest level ever, Condoleeza Rice does more of the same garbage she has been doing all along. What Argentina chooses to be political and in economic terms is not US’s business. The same mentality of do what we tell you or…. we will invade is now outdated and the US is running the risk of being in the position Germany was in 1945. The world is tired of US Empirealism and is no longer going to take it.

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By Aegrus, March 19, 2008 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

That’s ridiculous. Alienating any South American country at this point in time is a mistake. Nations south of the equator are becoming very big economic powers. We just have to help guide them to be more peaceful about their policies.

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