This creature-human is an insult to the rest of the real people in the world-suffers from a depraved heart. He is totally indifferent to the suffering he has brought on by his lies and could care less. This subspecies failure has also commented last week that he envies the “young” soldiers fighting on the front lines in Afghanistan and says he is too old to serve in the military-like he never did in the 1st place-and he thinks it is sort of romantic! These words out of the mouth of this moron. If killing people, maiming and scarring people for life is romantic to him, wouldn’t it have been much more humane to use Viagra like Bob Dole does. This proves he is of his grandfather’s heritage, Preston Bush who helped finance Hitler’s madness for over 2 years before our government caught up to him. I said before he was raised on the fairy tales(horror stories) of the Nazi era. Perhaps this helps explain his obsession with building the FEMA concentration camps in America, world domination, stolen freedoms from American people, corporate controlled government and trying to turn America into a dictatorship, just to start with.

As for the line he says he is to old to be serving in the military-wrong. He is 62 and in his 1st term, the military was reinstating retired military people who were 59 years and older and had been out of the service over 29 years to go fight in his wars, so the line about age is complete bull. Besides, he seems healthy enough to go fight since that is all he wants to do anyway and it would be a much better way for him to “earn his pay”-cuts and all by reenlisting as he should, along with the twins.

If this president has any sense of decency (which he doesn’t)righteousness or empathy, he would never have gotten this country into a false war or he would have admitted his mistake long ago and corrected his humongous error immediately.

^ waste of electrons in the last 6 years.  “He” isn’t worth one moment in our precious existence!

By felicity, March 19 at 11:29 am #
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Re: Re: Power

<<What has interested me is what was Bush’s motivation and how that motivation might be tied to his otherwise unexplainable satisfaction with what, to the rest of the world, is the disaster of Iraq.>>

That is an interesting topic - I agree.  Personally, I believe there were a myriad of reasons that Bush chose to attack, the most obvious of which was his belief that the NIE’s assessment of Iraq’s WMD capabilities was accurate.  Probably many of the same reasons that so many from both sides of the isle in Congress also voted to allow the war.

As to his present insistence that the war was the right thing, it would be difficult and counterproductive for a sitting President to disown an active war - especially one which he ordered.  It would also undermine the case for our continued presence in Iraq, which I think is crucial.

Got it Felicity. I think I’ve heard of this book, but I’ve not read it. So, I’ll get it, and do exactly that.

I too am inclined to go along with that premise, that powerful people do very dumb things, and generally for very petty reasons. But, I think it depends on the persons, and the circumstances, and the mindset of those people, even when the circumstances seem similar.

For instance…Johnson lied us into Vietnam with that Tonkin Bay lie. And he kept us there for all of that time, in part because of his own ego, and unwillingness to admit to an error.

BUT, I don’t think we’re dealing at all with the same thing in this regime. Johnson DID lose sleep and agonize over his decisions, and he DID, in the end, understand that the American people did not support him or his war.

That is (at least in my opinion) not what is happening here. I don’t see the Johnson or even the ego driven Regan days as a fascist type thing. I mean, you hit it with your response to Marshall on how Kristol had tried to get Bill Clinton to blast Iraq back in ‘98, or ‘97 or whenever it was. If memory serves me, there were a few attempts to get him to do attack again in the region, at and after the time the neocons published what I call their Manifesto, which was the Project for a New American Century.

In my comparison, that is the same as their formal plan for Global Domination, which is no different than any former totalitarian dictatorship in it’s ideology. Nazism was intended to be ‘global’ as well.

Anyway, there is no doubt some pettiness involved in GW’s mentality. I wouldn’t doubt that at all. (like Saddam tried to kill his daddy). And of course there’s more, since GW is a retard with a personality disorder.

BUT, I don’t think he’s smart enough to pull this off. That’s why I think he’s only PART of what is taking place, and it serves to distract from the dude in the shadows, (Cheney) and all of those that he is directing.

So, more than one operation in place. Scares the bejesus out of me, because on the surface, it all so illogical, and insane.

Here’s a quote from the other new article here by Patrick Cockburn that kind of jumped right out at me, as he’s talking about Cheney’s visit to Iraq, and his claim about the ‘phenomenal’ success that is being made in security in Iraq, just as yet another suicide bomber blows herself up, killing 40 and wounding 50 more. And of course a quick look at history tells us that Iraq DID NOT experience suicide bombs under the Saddam dictatorship. They simply didn’t have them.

Anyway, Cockburn makes this mention on that…

“Often it is difficult to know where the self-deception ends and the deliberate mendacity begins.”..

See what I mean? I don’t believe that Cheney is in that kind of ‘denial’. He’s just a psychopathic evil man with a mission, and it means having full control of the Middle East and all of it’s resources.

The only true denial is in the arrogance that allowed them to believe that it would be such an easy task to control Iraq, expecting no resistance to the historical hammer of US military might.

Now, that was an error in judgment based on the arrogance and the hubris. But it hasn’t changed his overall mission. Now that’s just my opinion.

Thanks…

Why can’t I post under your post?  I can’t so I hope you pick this up.  Barbara Tuchman wrote a book called ‘The March of Folly’ which I have read at least three times.  Read it as it looks back through history, starting with the Trojan War of all things and ending with Nam.  Her premise, which she well supports is that powerful people do very dumb things - and more often than not for very petty reasons.

Felicity and Robert,

There is even another collection of work that I believe helps to understand this as well, because if you think about it, this CANNOT have been managed by Dick and George alone.

In other words, if it were just a matter of it being recognized that george is certifiable, (and I’m sure that was determined long ago) then he would have been removed long ago, just for the sake of the party, and everyone else that still had a brain.

I mean at some point, and even though he too remained in denial until the end, the guys made the walk to tell Nixon, it was time, and that he had to go.

So, I think there’s far more here than we have so far been able to understand, but looking ONLY at bush, or even ONLY at Dick Cheney, though I would argue that cheney is the real force here.

Anyway, check out Hannah Arndt’s Origins of Totalitarianism. It’s an excellent work, and has been updated a few times with new prefaces.

In it, she primarily describes all of these ‘features’ in relation to Hitler’s Nazi Germany, and Stalin’s Russia. ONE (of the many) characteristics of Totalitarianism, that is different from just a one-party rule dictatorship, is that it is a MOVEMENT, based on an ideology, which attaches itself to the state and uses it as a vehicle to advance the goals of the movement which are, (in nearly all incidences) what amounts to a GLOBAL domination.

Fantastic though it may seem, that was the foundation of the Nazi movement..global domination, and the same can be said of Stalin’s communism.

So, I said that to say that this is about more than George Bush, whom I believe has simply been the one selected to represent what is the ostensible government, while the real, (shadow) government actually calls all of the shots. Looking at it from that view, George is actually a well chosen person for the role, just because he IS retarded, and has this severely dysfunctional personality.

Anyway, to try to put it in any sort of rational understanding, Arndt’s dissertation/book is very helpful, since I couldn’t begin to do it here. I’m actually only just working though it myself, and finding so many similarities..ones I would never have had reason to consider without a look back at how these very same regimes have come to power before. The shared characteristics will amaze you.

For instance, one characteristic is an ultimate disregard for the rule of law, and while both Hitler and Stalin consistently came up with their own new rules and laws, neither ever formally abandoned the constitutions of their respective nations.

The other is the duplication of offices and departments within the government, and the fact that nobody ever really knows where the ‘orders’ are coming from. There is a deliberate and on-going effort to prevent ANY measure of stability, based on ANYTHING, no matter what it might be, because stability is the nemesis of any totalitarian movement.

The ideologies at the foundation of these movements do NOT have to be based in any logic or rationality. In fact, they never ARE. That’s why it’s easy enough to drive insane, any who would try to work it out, or understand it from a logical basis.

As a rule, these movements are also very INEFFFICIENT, because the national interest is NOT their concern. (ergo..the busted out economy).

Anyway, there are a few easier to absorb (than Arndt) pieces that give more insight as well.

“Fascist America, in 10 Easy Steps – Naomi Wolf, 4/24/07 The Guardian

Then, “It Could Happen Here” Joe Conason, and that is an excerpt from a recent book (of his) on salon.com

So, those might all be helpful reads. I’m convinced that it’s not just GW that is managing this.

The war in Iraq worth for nothing !

Robert, there is a book out by Justin Frank called “Bush on the Couch.”  Came out years ago, caused a great stir among Bush people because Frank, a psychiatrist, basically said that Bush was perhaps certifiable. Of course Frank was crucified and Bush is still president.  Go figure. 

I think it’s hard if not impossible for people to admit, to themselves even, that the person in charge of their lives is a nut case.  Think the German people and Hitler - perfectly normal people following a man who was perfectly abnormal.

I do realize that, Marshall.  Foreinstance, I recall that Kristol sent a letter to Clinton in ‘98 advising him to attack Iraq.  The neocons in general, not to mention the likes of Chalabi were gung-ho for an attack even before Bush took office.

But, Bush was finally the man with the power to call the shots.  What has interested me is what was Bush’s motivation and how that motivation might be tied to his otherwise unexplainable satisfaction with what, to the rest of the world, is the disaster of Iraq.

Let’s not forget that Iraq was a subject of great concern prior to 9/11.  Clinton bombed Baghdad in 1998, and we had an ongoing, decade long conflict with Saddam in trying to enforce the no-fly zones, not to mention the earlier war over Kuwait.

Afghanistan was the response to 9/11.  Iraq was the larger effort to bring reform to a region that was seething with Muslim extremism and plans afoot to wreak even greater destruction upon the west.  Unfortunately for us, Iraq wasn’t the seat of those plans and in retrospect, was not a good choice as a starting place.

Yes, Yes…all donations will be accepted…limited to not more than $50.00 per person, or anything less.

It’s not intended to be a money making endeavor…we just wanna bring the SOB’s to justice.

I’ll keep you all advised as we try to put it together..this committee to be formed from whomever has anything to offer. (photo copy runners will be needed as well).

Meantime, I just came across this, because something made me want to double check the accuracy of the location where the original mission accomplished speech took place.

I heard a rumor that it was ‘filmed’ right down here in San Diego, and that a great deal of maneuvering
had to be managed, to get those mountains and the “Welcome to San Diego” sign from showing up in the back ground. I mean, even this photo could be the Naval base right their in San Diego. That control tower in the background looks awfully familiar.

Anyway, according to the news reports at the time, this jackass really did ‘fly in’ and land on the USS Lincoln in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/01/bush.carrier.landing/

I’m still not sure I believe it though. It says that they first flew him from DC to San Diego, before then flying him to the carrier. So, what’s up with that. They flew him from DC all the way to San Diego, to then fly to Iraq, so that he could land on the carrier?

Oh well…just musing these 5 years after the facts of all the death and destruction.

I guess it doesn’t matter if he landed on the carrier in San Diego or somewhere in the waters of the Persian Gulf. I’m sorry he ‘landed’ at all. He should have just stayed in his ‘Navy 1’ helicopter with his name printed on the fuselage, and kept on flying…off into the sunset…

It’s always seemed to me that Bush/Cheney/Rummy, bullies all, set out after 9/11 to ‘punish’ someone, didn’t really matter who, for daring to attack this country, their seat of power. Bin Laden was too elusive while Saddam was a sitting target. 

Now that Iraq is in ruins, Bush can rest easy.  His reputation as a Decider, a great leader, a man of steel is in tact. He has, afterall, managed to destroy not only one man, not only 600,000 Arabs but an entire country.

And I really think death and destruction was the name of his game.  How else to explain firing 500,000 Iraqi soldiers without first securing the country’s weapons depots. What we didn’t destroy or who we didn’t kill, they could and would.

If worth it, why are there no Bushes in Iraq?

Cyrena:

I’ll chip in for the pizzas!  Unlimited!  Sign me up!  (And, no, I’m not being sarcastic; I fully support your idea…)

Peace.

Aergrus,

We can actually do the impeachment, the domestic trials, and the international tribunals fairly inexpensively. All we really need are a team of pro bono public service lawyers, (constitutional and international experts) and a few other specialists..volunteers are fine.

Then we all chip in to make sure they have plenty of coffee and the occasional meal, along with paper and ink…

That’s it. It won’t cost that much…not even 5 minutes worth of what it’s costing us in war and death and destruction.

I can only hope that Mr. Bush will be troubled with nightmares, and guilt for the rest of his life, if beneath that idiotic demeanor there is after all a conscience.  May it haunt him to his grave.

And thereafter, may any attempt to find refuge in God, result in condemnation. May God grant you no mercy or forgiveness. But instead an eternity of torment.

Aegrus:

Ditto.  But I must admit; I was almost hoping that the first comment would come from MMC.  LOL.

Peace.

What’s clear to me?

The cost of impeaching you and Cheney is worth any amount of money and effort. You are a horrible person, King George. I want you in prison for the rest of your life.