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Tibet Official Denies Shootings

Posted on Mar 17, 2008
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The governor of Tibet has denied reports that Chinese security forces fired on the civilians and monks who have been demonstrating in the capital city of Lhasa and neighboring provinces. Opposition leaders say 80 or more protesters have been killed and witnesses have reported Chinese soldiers shooting at monks.


Rights groups say several people were killed when police and Tibetan protesters clashed in Aba, Sichuan province on Sunday. Protests were also reported in Gansu province.

China has given Tibetans involved in the protests a deadline of midnight on Monday (1600 GMT) to surrender to police.

The Dalai Lama has called for an international inquiry into China’s crackdown, while Western leaders have called for restraint. Olympic chief Jacques Rogge said he was “very concerned” about the situation.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 17, 2008 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment

“Will China Fail?” Author: John Lee:-

Dr. Lee says that China’s impressive year on year growth figures hide some frightening truths. China’s economy – in which the most important sectors are still controlled by the regime - is sick and failing. The regime is doing what it takes to preserve their hold on power – but at enormous cost to the country and its people. In Will China Fail?, Dr. Lee looks at the profound and mounting contradictions, tensions, and dysfunctions within Chinese economy and society – including between the regime, the military, and people - and why it is getting worse despite China’s impressive growth statistics. He argues that political reform needed to limit the role of the Party and government is unlikely in the foreseeable future and examines the Party’s capacity, determination, and desperation to remain in power – despite being in deep trouble with its own people….

China’s syndrome of lawless growth (an edited extract from “Will China Fail?” by John Lee):-

China is no longer a totalitarian state. The regime no longer seeks to control every aspect of life or way of thinking. Although the Chinese Communist Party remains determined to hold on to power, there is no utopian goal as such that totalitarian regimes ruthlessly strive towards.

Indeed, the party is becoming less relevant to many Chinese and different forms of behaviour are largely tolerated as long as they are not deemed to be threatening to CCP authority or social stability. In the words of one expert, Albert Keidel, who has worked and lived in China for more than 25 years, “life in China has softened a great deal”....

Political and social challenges are mounting. For the CCP, the present transitional period is correctly seen as a period of immense significance in terms of the future of its authoritarian rule in China. The credibility problem for the regime: There is growing evidence that the regime’s authority and capacity to govern are declining (in addition to its legitimacy). This is occurring for two main reasons….,25197,22614110-28737,00.html

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

Quote BBC: “Other parts of China also saw rallies on the weekend, while Tibetans in Nepal and India are continuing to protest….

China claims 23 provinces, five autonomous regions, four municipalities, and two special administrative regions, Hong Kong and Macau. Of these, Taiwan remains recalcitrant and has been maintained as a separate state since 1949. The Uighurs in the western province of Xinjiang also want independence.

Residents in Hong Kong want guarantees that Beijing will not dismantle the rights they enjoyed under British rule. And traditional Tibetans, fearful of a complete Han Chinese takeover and the suppression of their culture and religion, want more and more autonomy.

Stability is a difficult issue for the PRC which could quite easily fracture into as many states as there are in the USA. Historically, China has 55 ethnic and language groups, not just Mandarin and Cantonese. They also have a history of civil war.

At least, Taiwan will most probably realign with the mainland after nex week’s elections which, ironically,  are expected to be won by the PRC’s old nemesis, the KuoMinTang. That will bring an end to the manipulation and scheming by the USA which only has Japan left to coerce in the region.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 17, 2008 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

Who’s standing up for the people in New Orleans, ender? Sweep your own doorstep first, uhh…....

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By tresriogrande, March 17, 2008 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment
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You guys supposed to be the enlightened and truth seekers. Don’t believe what the media tells about Tibet. Do some real research. Read some history.

Dalai Lama was the head of state *and* archbishop of his religion during the period when cutting off young girls’ skin for lampshade was their sport. Tibet was never a country, only a territory under China’s administrative control for centuries. Dalai Lama and his British backers started an armed uprising in the 50’s and failed. Today we call them Terrorists.

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By troublesum, March 17, 2008 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

Asked for advice on what American citizens can do to protect themselves this same economist suggested people invest in silver and foreign currency and that they not keep money in saving acccounts.  Silver rather than gold because he felt that the president will soon be forced to buy up all gold in the US the way FDR did during the depression in order to defend the dollar.

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By troublesum, March 17, 2008 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

You don’t see much about this in the msm but about a year or so ago I heard an economist talking on an alternative talk radio program and what he said was that China owns the US.  The US made a deal with the Saudis that Saudi oil can only be purchased with US dollars.  China has the largest demand for oil after the US and they buy most of it from Saudi Arabia with US dollars.  Nobody wants US dollars for anything else.  The value of the dollar is tanking against the value of Euros for instance.  China has such a huge need for oil that in order to insure that they will have enough for the future they started buying up US savings bonds about a decade ago.  They buy more savings bonds by far than any other entity including the American public.  The problem is that China is involved in ongoing negotiations with the Saudis to allow them to buy oil with Chinese currency.  If that ever happens the value of the dollar will go through the floor.  It is only the Chinese demand for dollars which is keeping the dollar afloat.  What this has to do with Tibet is that the US can not afford to antagonize the Chinese too much on issues like the Tibetan uprising.  The neo-cons don’t talk about regime change or democracy in China.

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By punkdudeus, March 17, 2008 at 10:29 am Link to this comment
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I agree totally with the above comments.  This is one of the saddest ongoing instances of the world turning a blind eye to one of the greatest injustices of the last century.  It makes me so sad to know that the world sees this blatant instance of genocide and ethnic cleansing, and allows it to go on using empty words to justify inaction.
Lets hope within our lifetime, or even HHDL’s life time that some sort of cultural and political autonomy results from the people of Tibet’s struggle for freedom.

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By jatihoon, March 17, 2008 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

It is treated as tit-bits in main media, when it comes to Tibet.It was a country, before China invaded it and incorporated it into mainland.Tibet is as old as Buddhism or older.A fight to death is going on for the survival of Tibetian culture and its people.You do not have to invade china militarily to change its destructive policies towards Tibet but invade China economically, all freedom loving countries should pull out China summer olympics, dont buy goods made in china.  Hit China. where it hurts most. “MONEY.”

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By Doubting Thomas, March 17, 2008 at 5:45 am Link to this comment
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The American People need to stand up for the Nation of Tibet!

Your words are unfortunately, wasted. There is no way that the American Populace cares or understands the situation in Tibet. Regretably, Mr. America has it’s head so far up it’s anus it cannot see or even want to see what is going on in other countries, especially;Burma, Sudan (Dafur)& Tibet. Now that the decline of the “Greenback” is in full flow, it will not be long before the sh—hits-the-fan! Maybe then it will take notice? But maybe too late!

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By ender, March 17, 2008 at 4:06 am Link to this comment

Not just cultural survival, but personal survival.  The genocide of the Tibetan people is still ongoing after more than half of them have been exterminated.

When G. Bush met with the Dalai Lama, it was the only time I have had any modicum of respect for him.  American spectators and athletes now need to boycott the Olympic games.  Because China holds $trillions in debt we have racked up to attack Iraq, as well as give free rides to our corporations and wealthiest citizens, our Gov’t is limited in what it can do.

The American People need to stand up for the Nation of Tibet!

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