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Bad News, Abstinence Fans

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Posted on Mar 12, 2008
Sex Education is Good For You
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If ever there was irrefutable evidence that abstinence education doesn’t quite work, this is it. A new study from the Centers for Disease Control finds that at least one in four U.S. teenage girls is infected with a sexually transmitted disease.


The New York Times:

The first national study of four common sexually transmitted diseases among girls and young women has found that one in four are infected with at least one of the diseases, federal health officials reported Tuesday.

Nearly half the African-Americans in the study of teenagers ages 14 to 19 were infected with at least one of the diseases monitored in the study—human papillomavirus (HPV), chlamydia, genital herpes and trichomoniasis, a common parasite.

The 50 percent figure compared with 20 percent of white teenagers, health officials and researchers said at a news conference at a scientific meeting in Chicago.

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By Maani, March 13, 2008 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

MMC:

“This stupid policy is killing millions of Africans.  It is also part of Bush’s fundamentalist values. That is why the values of our president matter. What are the values that Hillary has embraced?”

On this issue, Hillary and you probably agree 100%, both specifically and more broadly.  Of course, that is a frightening thought, isn’t it?  LOL.

Peace.

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By Johnny, March 13, 2008 at 4:32 am Link to this comment
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True conservatives and true Christians have nothing to do with imposing their own will upon others and believe these matters are best addressed by sovereign individuals and families….


No, conservatives would never ban interracial marriage, polygamy, same sex marriage, the sale of sexual aids, abortion or anything like that. We ALL understand that conservatives don’t want to impose their will on us!!

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By Kiwi, March 13, 2008 at 2:20 am Link to this comment

that is a very right -wing definition of socialist ideology KDNC As there is only one biblical definition of a Christian, whenever I read “True Christians” or true anything I automatically think the writer means “those people who agree with me” Supporting sex education in schools ( which I strongly do) does not make me an untrue Christian. Then personally I cannot understand how a Christian can not be a socialist it seems far more in line with Christian principles than does Conservativism.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 12, 2008 at 11:31 pm Link to this comment

Its disappointing that people still can’t accept a blend of interaction and self-control in human relations,  martin weiss.

External control is what comes with everyone telling everyone elses what is good for them. That is a kind of rudeness in that respect.

But abstinenece only rattles the brains of most folks anyway….... they can’t handle the rising pressures as thye lead to a more aware conscious state generally, uhh.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm Link to this comment

Someone did,  samosamo, - its called “crack cocaine”, uhh!

“You Got Trouble…. right here in River City….” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI

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By samosamo, March 12, 2008 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment

Abstinence, crap. What this country needs it a scientist to come up with the 24/7 orgasm.

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By Corinthia, March 12, 2008 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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Actually there have been several studies on this—in places with Virginity pledges—it was found that the pledges could delay the average time of first intercourse upto 18 months.

But these folks, when they finally did have sex were much less likely to use protection, and had a higher rate of stds/pregnancy, and younger marriages. (Younger marriages statistically lead to higher divorce rates - then delayed first marriages)

Also that even through they were not having vagina intercourse, they were still engaging in oral sex, anal sex and heavy petting at a higher rate then the non-pledged kids.  And all of these activities can lead to some types of std infections.  These kids don’t seem to know that oral sex—is sex, anal sex is sex—and carries risk. Or that touching someone else’s privates might transmit an infection to them.

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By Namtillaku, March 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment
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Hey, if they abstained, they wouldn’t have the disease now would they?

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By kdnc, March 12, 2008 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment

Those who think that the idea of having sex education in the school system is one that comes from right wing and/or religious ideology are sadly mistaken and have been hoodwinked. This kind of policy comes from a very communistic/socialistic ideology that believes the masses do not know what’s best for them and must be educated according to the principles of those in power. True conservatives and true Christians have nothing to do with imposing their own will upon others and believe these matters are best addressed by sovereign individuals and families. The truth is many politicians on both sides of the isle and many religious leaders of various flavors have pressed for sex education in schools. It matters not whether these individuals call themselves conservative or liberal or Christian, etc. What matters is the philosophical underpinnings of what they are proposing. And as I have stated, any careful examination of the philosophy behind such programs will reveal very clearly that they are socialistic in nature.

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By Maani, March 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment

RAE:

“Large, illuminated signs should be posted, BY LAW, in front of every church, synagogue, mosque, etc., that state: ‘Warning: What you hear, see and are ‘taught’ inside this building WILL BE hazardous to your MENTAL HEALTH.’”

Now, now.  No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Are you suggesting that the main principles of Jesus’ ministry - love, peace, forgiveness, compassion, humility, patience, charity, selflessness, service, justice, truth - are not valuable?  Are you suggesting that the Beatitudes, homilies and parables are not valuable?

The problem comes when people of faith become too “religious,” and act in a way that is counter to the teachings of the one they claim to follow.

Peace.

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By Maani, March 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment

Aegrus:

“Yeah, I think it’s a safe bet to say having no sex will leave you with a really, really, really high probability of not getting an STD.”

ROFLMAO.  Yeah, I guess I was being a bit obvious, wasn’t I?  LOL.

Peace.

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By martin weiss, March 12, 2008 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

If, instead of trying to burn all the spinning wheels, the King had taught Sleeping Beauty to spin, she would never have pricked her finger and the kingdom would not have slept for a hundred years.
If our children were not overwhelmed with hormones and rebellious, we would all be dependent upon witch doctors to save us from polio and the pox.
Only those who believe they are the controlling authority have anything against education. They have yet to learn that control is good for science and driving a car, but self-defeating in human relations.

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By Aegrus, March 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

I think it is more to the effect of how the idea of abstinence is educated to these children.

Over the past eight years of Bush, teachers and sexual education on a whole fell to the school where all contraceptives were deemed “ineffective.” I’ve heard more than a few people essentially disregard condoms as worthless, but be in full force for abstinence education.

Yeah, I think it’s a safe bet to say having no sex will leave you with a really, really, really high probability of not getting an STD. Still, any kind of skewed education is bad education, and bad education leads to bad decisions.

Good job, righties. Protect us from taxes and education. Phew

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By RAE, March 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment

The ignorance of those, especially those, who should know better - the privileged, the educated - is ample evidence of the damage that RELIGIOUS DOGMA does to the health and mental health of the population.

It’s my opinion that virtually NONE of those who “believe” that abstinence will solve the problem learned that nonsense from legitimate EDUCATION.

They “learned” it from half-witted, brainwashed, parroting spewed by some religious order whose “authority” was used to abuse yet another generation of young people.

Those “in charge” who deny to our young ALL THE LEGITIMATE INFORMATION & TECHNOLOGY (eg condoms, birth control, medical intervention) regarding their sexuality should be arrested and jailed for crimes against society.

This includes all the goody-2-shoe, self-righteous, power-mad, ego maniacs who get themselves elected to school boards, etc., so they can inflict on others their profound ignorance of how the REAL WORLD WORKS.

Large, illuminated signs should be posted, BY LAW, in front of every church, synagogue, mosque, etc., that state: “Warning: What you hear, see and are “taught” inside this building WILL BE hazardous to your MENTAL HEALTH. Ask them to PROVE IT whenever they claim to know the truth.”

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By Maani, March 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

To suggest that this proves that abstinence education doesn’t work is absurd in the extreme.  Are they suggesting that ZERO abstinence education would have brought these numbers DOWN?  Please.

The more likely assumption is that abstinence education worked, but not as well as one might hope; had there been NONE, the number might have been one in three instead of one in four.

What is absolutely certain, however, is that even if abstinence education has little effect, abstinence certainly has a MAJOR effect.

Peace.

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