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 Waterboarding, ‘Harsh’ Techniques OK by BushPosted on Mar 8, 2008
The reputation of the U.S. on the world stage might be further colored by President Bush’s veto of a bill that would have limited the CIA’s (and other intelligence agencies’) array of interrogation techniques to those in the Army field manual. In defending Saturday’s veto, Bush once again invoked 9/11.
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By Margaret Currey, March 10 at 3:25 am # If this president was doing his job about security, soneone knew that people were coming into the unided states (false Passports) to lern how to fly, but was not interested in learning how to land, Fla. told officials about this, Clinton told Bush to be watchful, the only thing that Bush/Chaney were interested in is how do we wage war, well I think they just let the 9/11 incident happen. Then since all the government branches were in control of the Repthugublicians they changed the law, now these laws if kept in place and are used by another Bush/Chaney thug there goes our democracy, not all democracies are going to do the right thing. Hitler was in a country that had a so called democracy, but he changed it real quick into a Dictatorship. Make Congress a rubber stamp and put a president in charge of making his own laws and vetoing any law he does not like, his sighning statements are crazy. And then this president tells us that congress is not doing its job, it looks like everyting they do is either comromised or vetoed. Shame he cannot just leave or a bigger shame no one wants to make him leave office early.
By steve, March 10 at 7:12 am # Re: What Al Qaida wants Al Qaida getsExactly right Mr. Billis. The Bush Administration has now practically broken the armed forces by deploying and redeploying the same soldiers and marines to the Middle East over and over again. Much like the Soviets before us, we have spent ourselves broke to a point our economy can no longer sustain. We are running out of allies and find ourselves isolated in the world. These are the reasons we have not been attacked. We are destroying our own country from within.
By guntotinganglion, March 9 at 1:46 pm # Tragedy on-goingExcellent post Douglas. I would add only one thought. That is, I have heard it said so many times, that the troops believe that their mission is an honorable one. That may well be true for the vast majority of them, but that doesn’t make it an honorable mission. As I like to say, they may have gone with honor, but they weren’t necessarily SENT with honor. This disconnect has been taken advantage of by politicians like McCain over and over again, as if it’s a statement of fact that all of this is honorable, if the troops believe it to be. They are grunts, they do as their told, they do their duty, as they see it, and as they are proscribed to do it. But, those who sent them have not one atom of honor amongst the lot. They are a pack of criminals who have dishonored the troops at every step. They’ve turned many a good man and woman, who thought they were being honorable, into murderers. I say this in reference to the first time I heard about young soldiers “lighting up a target” that was approaching a check point on the airport road (I think it was) outside of Baghdad. When those young soldiers, who thought their mission honorable, opened the doors to the bullet riddled automobile they’d just destroyed, the shattered bodies of an entire family of innocent Iraqi’s fell out. They were unarmed, and the incident was a total mistake. It was too late to feel sorry for the dead, but I was horrified to consider, at 19 or 20, thinking only good thoughts about your mission, what seeing the parts of an infant, spilling out on the ground in front of them, would do to them. They became part of the tragedy when this happened, and their lives were transformed FOREVER! They could never be the same. Multiply this times a hundred thousand, and you see only a small part of the overall effect of this “war on terror”. The real criminals, the real terrorists, are the ones who fabricated this evisceration of an entire country, out of whole lies, not cloth! They are the ones who should be brought justice, and face the full penalties that law allows.
By joey, March 9 at 9:04 am # The Bush Legacy
By Bill Blackolive, March 9 at 8:36 am # See patriotsquestion9/11See patriotsquestion9/11, torture is not to get information but to add terror...torture and 9/11 coverup are (drug induced) scheme of corporate maggots to own the globe. Terrified maggots or politicians who got left out of the fold can be found at patriotsquestion9/11.
By Jim Yell, March 9 at 6:39 am # stop lying in defense of bushWe have held many of, probably most of the so called terrorist in prisons all over the world for years and yet most have never been investigated and sorted out from who is actually a terrorist and those who were defending their own countries, or just innocent by standers in their own countries and homes. There is no clear facts showing that those tortured by Bush/Cheney are present dangers, or have ever been a danger to the US. It is well documented that there is no reason to believe that Bush/Cheney did not know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and as time passes it becomes clearer that our Petroleum President and Vice-President must have had a motive of controling or owning Iraqi oil, beyond the apparent need to distract the country from the real culprits the Saudi Moslems, their personal friends and business associates. We are now paying the price and the profits are being collected by Bush/Cheney, how convenient for them. If there has ever been treason in this country it has been generated by this administration. Further once more I should like to remind those people who still want to believe that Bush/Cheney have protected us by instituting formation of extra legal organizations, which in the future will give basic foundation for a dictatorship in this country, are ignoring the fact that good old intellegence investigation had the facts that should have led to blocking the 9/11 attack, except high officials blocked the use of the information as it was politically inconvenient for their needs and the Republicans were too focused on gutting the treasury to pay attention to their responsibilities. A pox on all of them.
By Jim Yell, March 9 at 6:39 am # We have held many of, probably most of the so called terrorist in prisons all over the world for years and yet most have never been investigated and sorted out from who is actually a terrorist and those who were defending their own countries, or just innocent by standers in their own countries and homes. There is no clear facts showing that those tortured by Bush/Cheney are present dangers, or have ever been a danger to the US. It is well documented that there is no reason to believe that Bush/Cheney did not know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and as time passes it becomes clearer that our Petroleum President and Vice-President must have had a motive of controling or owning Iraqi oil, beyond the apparent need to distract the country from the real culprits the Saudi Moslems, their personal friends and business associates. We are now paying the price and the profits are being collected by Bush/Cheney, how convenient for them. If there has ever been treason in this country it has been generated by this administration. Further once more I should like to remind those people who still want to believe that Bush/Cheney have protected us by instituting formation of extra legal organizations, which in the future will give basic foundation for a dictatorship in this country, are ignoring the fact that good old intellegence investigation had the facts that should have led to blocking the 9/11 attack, except high officials blocked the use of the information as it was politically inconvenient for their needs and the Republicans were too focused on gutting the treasury to pay attention to their responsibilities. A pox on all of them.
By guntotinganglion, March 8 at 10:49 pm # Penalty to suit the crimesThis insanity will someday end, for better or for worse. That said, I can only fantasize about the punishment this man should be exposed to for his ongoing, relentless, unapologetic crimes against humanity. I do NOT favor the death penalty, which is kinda sad, because it would be so appropriate for a man who so dearly loved signing death penalty paperwork in Texas (and I believe once as Head Fed). No, the death penalty is too good, too quick. What this monster deserves, is a cell, with all the comforts afforded by the Federal Penal system, with three special addition. His cell should have embedded within all three walls, flat panel, high definition tv’s, that run a slide show 24/7. And that slide show should show the faces and body parts of ALL of the victims (for which there are photographs) of his warmongering, war profiteering and torture related crimes. This should be considered a kindness. It is my belief that the Christian claim that forgiveness for ones crimes comes at the end of life only with true repentance, requires you know the names and faces of those you have tortured and killed. This punishment would afford him the opportunity (an opportunity he has refused as President), and the time required to get to know the countless names, face and body parts (when only bits are available due to blast decimation) of those who’s deaths he has been directly responsible for. Innocent men, women, boys, girls, infants and the unborn, that have been eviscerated and dispatched by the “War President”. No death penalty. Make the punishment suit the crime. Demand justice. Let him spend the rest of his life memorizing the names and faces he’ll need to list, to make that critical petition for repentance for his crimes. At that moment, when he feels his life slipping away after years of memorization, perhaps he will be contrite, and ask true forgiveness of a god he has claimed he believe in? Then it will be time to see if god has the patience to wait the years it will take to speak the million plus names he’s been responsible for killing. IMPEACHMENT NOW Add Your Comment |
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