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Posted on Mar 7, 2008
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Powering down: Samantha Power has decamped from Team Obama.

A Scottish newspaper played a key role in the resignation of Samantha Power, Harvard professor and unpaid foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama’s campaign. Power stepped down after she commented to The Scotsman that Hillary Clinton was “a monster” who was “stooping to anything” to clinch the Democratic nomination.


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In a statement released by the campaign as Obama prepared for a day of campaigning in Wyoming, Power called her remarks “inexcusable” and said she was resigning from her unpaid position “with deep regret.”

“She made a decision to resign and we accepted it,” Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said aboard the senator’s charter.

“Last Monday, I made inexcusable remarks that are at marked variance from my oft-stated admiration for Sen. Clinton and from the spirit, tenor and purpose of the Obama campaign,” Power wrote. “And I extend my deepest apologies to Sen. Clinton, Sen. Obama and the remarkable team I have worked with over these long 14 months.”

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 9, 2008 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

The Art of Peace is not easy. It is a fight to the finish,
the slaying of evil desires and all falsehood within.
On occasion the Voice of Peace resounds like thunder,
jolting human beings out of their stupor.


Crystal clear,
Sharp and bright,
The sacred sword
Allows no opening
For evil to roost.
Twenty Five


To practice properly the Art of Peace, you must:
Calm the spirit and return to the source.
Cleanse the body and spirit by removing all malice, selfishness, and desire.
Be ever-grateful for the gifts received from the universe,
your family, Mother Nature, and your fellow human beings.


The Art of Peace is based on Four Great Virtues:
Bravery, Wisdom, Love, and Friendship,
symbolized by Fire, Heaven, Earth, and Water.
http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/users/paloma/Aikido/artpeace.html

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By Leefeller, March 9, 2008 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

For the bottom feeders out there, the high road is not an option, like integreity, morals and the things that most people take for granted. Bottom feeders have no rules, or scrupples. They take what they want, at any cost. 

As far as the Monster thing, this petty way of making something out of nothing, is normal in some politics and probably the way Hillary will run her office.  Actually seems her whole campaign is making something out of nothing.

Hillary is a low road bottom feeder, she has shown her hand, and I find it quite ugly, this is only the tip of the iceberg. Get used to it folks.

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By Maani, March 9, 2008 at 8:37 am Link to this comment

Cyrena:

“See..I wasn’t even gonna mention this again…all of this dragging up of all of this first lady experience dirt. But..you asked.”

No, I didnt ask.  Because, with all due respect, it is clear that Kim was directing her comments to the current campaign, not to “ancient history.”

For a professor, you can be pretty obtuse at times.

Peace.

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By Maani, March 9, 2008 at 6:46 am Link to this comment

Cyrena:

“I’m familiar with Jeffrey Sachs. Can you make any connection between his work and Barack Obama?”

Perhaps not directly; i.e., I do not know whether Obama specifically holds Sachs’ views.  But I CAN tell you that Obama, Goolsbee and Liebman all studied under Sachs at Harvard, and Goolsbee and Liebman have both made somewhat “reverent” comments about him.  Again, this does not mean that any of them would implement Sachs’ “scorched earth” style economic policies, but it remains a possibility.

“How important is Samantha Powers anyway, to the overall Obama presidency, and why would we need her bio now that she’s no longer even a part of the campaign.”

As I noted, if Obama actually does win the presidency, there is nothing stopping him from bringing Power back into the fold.  So we may yet see her again.  Thus, her “resume” and positions remain important.

Peace.

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By cyrena, March 9, 2008 at 4:00 am Link to this comment

Ah Maani….

” Is there anyone else you want to claim “lost their job” as a result of Hillary?”

Remember this?

Investigations by the FBI and the Justice Department, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel all took place over the subsequent years. Travel Office Director Billy Dale was charged with embezzlement but found not guilty at trial in 1995. First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton gradually came under scrutiny for allegedly having played a central role in the firings and making false statements about her role in it.

In 1998 Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr exonerated President Bill Clinton of any involvement in the matter. In 2000 Independent Counsel Robert Ray issued his final report on Travelgate, stating that Hillary Clinton had made factually false statements but saying there was insufficient evidence to prosecute her.

See..I wasn’t even gonna mention this again…all of this dragging up of all of this first lady experience dirt. But..you asked…

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By cyrena, March 9, 2008 at 3:51 am Link to this comment

Douglas,

I’m familiar with Jeffrey Sachs. Can you make any connection between his work and Barack Obama? You say that Barack had the same plans.

Of course I know better, but since you’re making this claim, (like he’s a Muslim) I’m just wondering if you’d be willing to give us a clue as to how you made this particular association?

As for Samantha Powers..nope, I didn’t know anything about her. I don’t think a whole bunch of people knew anything about her.

How many people were familiar with David Addington, or even Scooter Libby, or oh…I could go on, before they began running the country from Cheney’s secret rooms, and continue to do so?

Just curious, since we’re making all of these ‘associations’.

So Max Shields,

How important is Samantha Powers anyway, to the overall Obama presidency, and why would we need her bio now that she’s no longer even a part of the campaign.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 9, 2008 at 12:28 am Link to this comment

Oh, Obama’ll take the high road…
And Hillary’ll take the low road…...
And She’ll be in Washington afore him
For me and Samantha Power…
Heard it from The Scotsman…..

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 9, 2008 at 12:22 am Link to this comment

Samantha Powers is… an imperialist interventionist… and the baggage that she brings as an advisor, particularly on foreign affairs…. Intervention is the name of the game for Ms Powers and her problem from hell…”

She (and Obama) had the same kind of ‘intervention’ in mind for America as the US economic advisors (Jeffrey Sachs’ shock therapy) proposed for the former USSR and other countries hapless enough to receive their misguided directions.

Well USA, you deserve it…... ha ha, ugh!!!

To paraphrase - “A Global Compact to End World Wealth: Jeffrey Sachs on Stabilisation, ..... “Understanding Regional Economic Growth in anywhere but the USA”, duh!

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By Dr Wu--the last of the big-time thinkers, March 8, 2008 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment
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Time to put on my “Impeach McCain” bumper sticker?

just askin’

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By Max Shields, March 8, 2008 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

Does anybody on this thread know who Samantha Powers is and the baggage that she brings as an advisor, particularly on foreign affairs. She’s an imperialist interventionist (though she’d spin it differently). Intervention is the name of the game for Ms Powers and her problem from hell. Iraq is just a badly planned intervention. Bombs dropped for the good of the poor on the ground is just collateral damage.

Samantha is, actually, could just as readily be Hillary’s advisor as Obama’s. She was fully supportive of the air raids on Bosnia during Bill’s reign. But Sam like to glamorize her positions and Obama just seems to be so much more hip and now…and yah she’s probably got a little thing about the man/woman match up that leads her to the charms of Obama (pretty superficial prof.) but I’m speculating here. There’s plenty of facts to support my other contentions.

You got to get out side the box to see the room. And as long as this little shouting match is between tweedle dee and dumb, we’ll continue on a course that is coming down all around us - the US and it’s unsustainable economic is COLLAPSING folks! The parties OVER!!

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By Maani, March 8, 2008 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

Kim:

“Don’t you find it a little scary how people who say things that Hillary doesn’t like seem to lose their jobs immediately?  It’s not just Samantha Powers, remember the reporter who said they were pimping out Chelsea on the campaign trail?”

Uh…are you suggesting that Obama, or his campaign, is in the habit of firing people (or allowing them to resign) simply because Hillary complains about something?  Otherwise, I don’t see the logic of your comment.

Samantha Powers resigned NOT because Hillary complained about the comment, but because she realized that in order for Obama to continue taking the “high road,” her continued presence would be a problem.  It was her choice; she was not “fired.” As for David Schuster of MSNBC, he was not fired: he was suspended for two weeks and returned in late February - and this decision was made by MSNBC management not solely because of his comment re Chelsea, but because he had a history of making inflammatory comments and not apologizing for them.

Is there anyone else you want to claim “lost their job” as a result of Hillary?

Peace.

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By laughoutloud, March 8, 2008 at 11:44 am Link to this comment
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wow.  why is everyone so over-sensitive?  there are a lot worse names one can be called.  it was an off the cuff comment, get over it.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 8, 2008 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

#By Mike Mid-City, March 7: “Samantha Power is a professional woman who hates Hillary….”

#By Kim, March 7: “Don’t you find it a little scary how people who say things that Hillary doesn’t like seem to lose their jobs immediately?  It’s not just Samantha Powers, remember the reporter who said they were pimping out Chelsea on the campaign trail…”

Actually Hillary Clinton offered to sack anyone responsible for offending Barack Obama over the video of his wearing a traditional African outfit only week back, Kim, despite it being a minor issue. It is yet to be made clear why he felt embarrassed by it.

Quote Hillary Clinton (Tracy Flick):  By Mike Mid-City, March 7: “Samantha Power is a professional woman who hates Hillary….”

By Kim, March 7: “Don’t you find it a little scary how people who say things that Hillary doesn’t like seem to lose their jobs immediately?  It’s not just Samantha Powers, remember the reporter who said they were pimping out Chelsea on the campaign trail…”

Actually Hillary Clinton offered to sack anyone responsible for offending Barack Obama with the video of his wearing a traditional African outfit a couple of weeks back, Kim, despite it being a minor issue. It is yet to be made clear why he felt embarrassed by it.

Quote Hillary Clinton (Tracy Flick):  None of this would have happened if Samantha Power hadn’t meddled the way she did. She should have just accepted things as they are instead of trying to interfere with destiny. You see, you can’t interfere with destiny. That’s why it’s destiny. And if you try to interfere, the same thing’s going to happen anyway, and you’ll just suffer….

You might think it upset me that Barack Obama had decided to run against me but nothing could be further from the truth. He was no competition for me; it was like apples and oranges. I had to work a little harder, that’s all, see I believe in the voters; they understand that elections aren’t just popularity contests….  http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20080307_tracey_flick_4_prez/

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By marti.marti2, March 8, 2008 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
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If the hateful, hateful, hateful posts on this thread represents the Obama campaign, he show drop out now.  If this is American honesty this country is going to rip itself apart.

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By Trigger finger, March 8, 2008 at 11:15 am Link to this comment
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She is not a Monster, She’s a BITCH. Or maybe both? Yes she’s both! But think of the snacks she’ll be able to put together for foreign leaders.

McGoon is a MONSTER.
Bill is a MONSTER.
George is just a pathetic moron.

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By MITT, March 8, 2008 at 11:00 am Link to this comment
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Camp Obama felt like a High school pep rally.
The immature Obama Rah Rah’s WOULD BE SO INDIGNATE were Hillary to say Barack Hussein Obama was a monster.  Hypocrisy is alive and well on Truthdig.

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By MITT, March 8, 2008 at 10:59 am Link to this comment
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Camp Obama felt like a High school pep rally.
The immature Obama Rah Rah’s WOULD BE SO INDIGNATE were Hillary to say Barack Hussein Obama was a monster.  Hypocrisy is alive and well on Truthdig.

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By Maani, March 8, 2008 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

MMC:

Nice to know you’re a firm believer in the right to free speech…

Peace.

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By homovivens, March 8, 2008 at 9:47 am Link to this comment

Half the country already believed it (Republicans); half the Democrats, after weeks of Hillary’s heckling, hissing, and eventual hurling her support behind McCain to goose up the old geezer to gang up on the gander (Obama), have come to think it; those remaining have given free “rein” (and here the commonly incorrect usage, “reign,” may be more to the point) to their inner monsters.

Samantha Powers is right. Hillary is a monster. Ms. Power’s failure was in not being more specific. Hillary is a Gorgon – a monstrous feminine creature with snakes for harrying her opponents so much so they want to get stoned. Hillary’s descent into scorched-earth campaigning – a Dantean moral inferno – political arson – will burn out, hopefully before the nation does.

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By Maani, March 8, 2008 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

Cyrena:

“Barack Obama has told his supporters on more than a few occasions, and has said it often in ALL of his many VICTORY speeches, that there were still very dangerous times ahead, although I believe he probably called them ‘challenges’. Now if you knew the ‘code’ then you’d know what he was talking about.”

“Code?”  Oh, I see. And of course, only YOU (and possibly a few other Obama supporters) know that “code.”  After all, I have never heard this “code” thing before, even from other Obama supporters.  Or are you just making it up as you go along?

“As for your law comparison, please don’t ever rely on such a profession to feed, house or clothe yourself. I can’t imagine you ever winning ANY case, based on your ‘assumptions’.”

Au contraire! I have litigated over 20 cases - and have never lost.  Even against attorneys making $450 per hour.  So I think I know what I’m talking about when I talk about litigation and how one creates a winning case.

As for poker, I don’t play.  Have a good time.

Peace.

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By LibertyWatch, March 8, 2008 at 7:21 am Link to this comment

I hope she comes back after the election is over and Barack takes command! What interviews I have listen to this young woman speak on were very impressive. She is intelligent and articulate. I believe this is nothing but a PR move to keep any fires down until the nomination is nailed down.

She strikes me as a person we need in Washington. She is not gone for long I think.

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By Conservative Yankee, March 8, 2008 at 6:39 am Link to this comment
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in 1960, JFK had the “inexperienced” staff Like Teddy Sorenson and Nixon had the “seasoned” White House professionals.

Most people in the USA are not old enough to remember the bruising primary where the party insiders (Like Pat Brown,Stuart Symington, Ross Barnett, Adlai Stevenson, Lyndon Johnson, Wayne Morse, and Hubert Humphrey… there were seven more of lesser stature)

Lyndon Johnson was the top contender. Everyone “KNEW”  he was going to take the party’s nomination and face this life long enemy in the fall… There was only one problem with all this knowledge… it didn’t ever become fact. A little-known interloper, Senator from a small state, who was absent for Senate votes during his terms 40% of the time was chosen…

The consensus; not shared by me, was he was a great president.  One quality JFK had which candidates to day seem to lack, was that he listened carefully to those who disagreed with him.  The folks who surrounded him were GREAT, and I guess in a way that makes him a better president than we have had in a long while.

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By jatihoon, March 8, 2008 at 5:37 am Link to this comment

And I was there, Power made no sucbh comments.That is monester of lie, I will be lying if I said that.

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By cyrena, March 8, 2008 at 4:07 am Link to this comment

Maani writes:

“I only suggested that it was absurd for Obama to assume that just because HE might not engage in “politics as usual,” that she would not either, thus leaving himself with nowhere to go.”

So here we are Maani, with another of your pathetic defenses. So, you assume to assume what Obama was assuming. How the hell do you know WHAT he expected or didn’t expect from Hillary?

Well, you don’t, because you’re not smart enough to pay attention to ‘the competition’. My money says that he DID ‘expect’ it, and even HE has said as much, if you had actually listened, and were able to read between the lines.

Barack Obama has told his supporters on more than a few occasions, and has said it often in ALL of his many VICTORY speeches, that there were still very dangerous times ahead, although I believe he probably called them ‘challenges’. Now if you knew the ‘code’ then you’d know what he was talking about. But first, you don’t listen, and more than that, when you DO, you only listen or read with the sinister intent of grabbing whatever is most easily twisted into smear/innuendo in your diabolic and distorted mindset. And of course you always base in on YOUR ‘assumptions’ and they’re ALWAYS WRONG!


As for your law comparison, please don’t ever rely on such a profession to feed, house or clothe yourself. I can’t imagine you ever winning ANY case, based on your ‘assumptions’. That is the first rule…NEVER ASSUME. When one is forced to ‘assume’ one should do it cautiously, knowing full well, that they DON’T have a ‘full view’ and making the best of the part of the view that they DO have. You are totally incapable of that sort of reason/logic/judgment.

I hope you don’t play poker either. Then again, I’d be happy to play with you, as long as you have plenty of money to lose.

Meantime, I’d say that Obama has called it pretty well. The very best tactic against what he KNEW would come from Hillary, was to simply allow her to self-destruct. Or, in street language, “show her ass.” Or, in older street language, “CLOWN”..(just depends on which neck of the woods or stream one is from).

And, she has!!! He might not have known exactly HOW she was gonna do it, but he was smart enough to know that she WOULD! Can I remind you again…SHE HAS!! And, she CONTINUES to do all of the above, clown and show her ass. Some folks might be OK with that, but if you’ve taken a look around lately, American’s are taking their survival far more seriously these days. I mean, how can even the most oblivious among us, ignore the fact that we’re in free fall, and that the ‘clowning’ and the soap operas just aren’t luxuries we can afford. (hell, we can’t afford housing or food). Kinda puts a dent in the thrills of gossip and other entertainment.

Now remember my FREE counsel…don’t try to practice law, and don’t try to play poker with money, unless you’re just a real masochist. (sometimes I do wonder).

Oh…I forgot to ask…are you SURE that it’s Obama who’s left himself with ‘nowhere to go’? And, tell us again what is ‘absurd’?

Nevermind, forget the last part. My rent’s due though..wanna play poker? Be sure to bring your list of ‘assumptions’.

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By cyrena, March 8, 2008 at 3:24 am Link to this comment

And…Hillary has already said that her very first order as president, will be to send Bill and Bush 1 on a “Peace Mission” throughout the world.

Of course there’s a relationship there, and it’s really not even clandestine. The media has simply failed to report it in the kind of language that the average joe understands.

The Bush and Clinton Dynasties have been sleeping together for decades.

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By danni, March 8, 2008 at 2:55 am Link to this comment
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that’s nice, but i like my news served with context, a la: http://www.alternet.org/story/79019/

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By Deane, March 8, 2008 at 2:52 am Link to this comment
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Every election it really a known fact that every candidates tend to create more issues so the more issues the more it would become exciting for opponents. I think that I do agree that being a monster of a candidate will always not be evident until they have hold office. Anyway both of them are just doing its best to hit each other the only mistakes is that Hilary because of being a TRAPO just know how to play her cards well.

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By homovivens, March 8, 2008 at 2:08 am Link to this comment

Half the country already believed it (Republicans); half the Democrats, after weeks of Hillary’s heckling, hissing, and eventual hurling her support behind McCain to goose up the old geezer to gang up on the gander (Obama), have come to think it; those remaining have given free “rein” (and here the commonly incorrect usage, “reign,” may be more to the point) to their inner monsters.

Samantha Powers is right. Hillary is a monster. Where Samantha errs is in not being more specific. Hillary is a Gorgon – a monstrous feminine creature with snakes for harrying her opponents so much so they want to get stoned. Hillary’s descent into scorched-earth campaigning – a Dantean moral inferno – political arson – will burn out, hopefully before the nation does.

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By cyrena, March 8, 2008 at 1:21 am Link to this comment

Now THIS is spot on Grommitt.

I see this as NO BIG DEAL, and a simple perfunctory apology for a slip of the tongue, or a very human knee-jerk reaction was all that was required…if that.

Somehow even that seems at odds with my commitment to calling things as they are. It is TRUE that Hillary has already proved beyond a shadow of any doubt, that Hillary will do anything to WIN, and the same TRUTH has been stated on this website, by MULTIPLE posters, over and over again.

So it’s like, why does one need to apologize for telling the truth? Could she have used a different word than ‘monster’? Sure, given the time to think about it, I can come up with others that would have been even more descriptive, and even more ‘politically correct’ than monster.

She could have said that Hillary was engaged in a campaign of treachery, duplicity, and perfidy that knows no bounds, and willfully determined to deceive the American people at any costs, in order to win. Then she could have called her a Trojan Horse whose sole purpose in the campaign is to betray the American public, by lying about not only Barack Obama, but about herself as well.

So, is that better? None of the ‘monster’ stuff. Didn’t even need to use a cuss word, and it would have all been true. She could have easily backed it up with any number of lying statements or actions on the record as said or done by Hillary herself.
I mean hell, we’ve got 35 years worth of stuff to use to back up each and every claim.

Now I honestly don’t know a thing about Samantha Powers’ credentials or brilliance in foreign policy. Ironic though, that Douglas Chalmers, (a big Hillary fan) claimed her to be a ‘key’ advisor, which really should send Maani the ‘detail dude’ into another one of his frequent neurotic meltdowns, since he’s already bestowed that title on Brzezinski, and argued passionately for it, because he’d already determined that ZBig was some sort of mega-monster himself. Maani obviously had no clue to the fact that any politician is fortunate to have Brzezinski on his/her team, regardless of what particular ‘capacity’ (capt, F/O, engineer) Maani wants to assign them.

Regardless, Samantha can, (as Maani has already suggested) still be a part of Obama’s strategic team, though Maani suggested that Obama could always hire her ‘later’ if he gets the nomination. But I would suggest that a public resignation doesn’t mean she has to go anywhere.

Ya see, I’ve learned so much from the current batch of crooks and liars. Take Rumsfeld for instance. Does anybody think he actually left the administration just because there was a public announcement that he did, and a replacement of the same? Nope. He still goes to the office everyday, and still collects a salary from taxpayers, and still has a hand in everything that goes on. Besides, Cheney’s lawyers have been running the country for 8 years, and most people have never even heard of them. For his ‘main’ advisor, (scooter) even a trial and conviction didn’t put him out of commission.

So, I think Samantha should just carry on.

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By Expat, March 8, 2008 at 1:21 am Link to this comment

CY-“The Clinton’s ARE insatiable monsters, and they have an appetite for money power, and absolute authority… makes me wonder if they have some clandestine relationship with Bush family and friends.”

Bill and GB 41 came to Thailand together after the tsunami in 2004.

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By Outraged, March 8, 2008 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

kokuaguy in honolulu, I’ll gladly wear an audacity button as long as the Clintonites in turn wear the “STUPIDITY” button.

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By Outraged, March 7, 2008 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment

Re: Maani

You absolutely “suggested” it was acceptable.

“Blame Hillary all you want for HER tactics, but for Obama not to have seen this as a possibility and leave himself some wiggle room was a poor decision lacking foresight.”

Your “Blame Hillary all you want”, rhetoric is disgusting.  In effect you are saying “Blame Hillary all you want BUT OBAMA WAS STUPID TO NOT PLAY DIRTY LIKE HILLIARY, which, implies she was RIGHT.  And when you make the implication or qualification that Clinton was RIGHT and Obama was WRONG you are “suggesting” it is acceptable.

That is the same “argument” rapists and their “good lawyer” defenders use.  And so your admiration of an asshole tearing apart their victim also shows your depravity of mind and perversion of though process.

Also you make the assumption that Obama hadn’t “assumed” Hillary would play dirty (a ridiculous position even to the most casual of observers) and therefore that he was “absurd” in his ascertain of the situation.  Qualify that Maani…..what is it that makes you believe Obama made that assumption, other than your imagination?

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By mackTN, March 7, 2008 at 8:55 pm Link to this comment

Her remarks, made in public to a reporter on the record, were immature and disturbing for someone involved in foreign policy, an area that demands civility, tact, and diplomacy.  Her resigning spared her candidate days and weeks of defending her vis a vis his era of new politics philosophy.  At this point, he really doesn’t have the time to come to the rescue of the fair maiden. 

I’m not sure who Obama’s political director is—David Axelrod?—but training newbies must be someone’s job, surely.  At least tell them to watch West Wing, as good a primer of the political battleground as any lecture. 

A friend and I attended one of the Camp Obamas and we were somewhat startled by the inexperience of the staff.  Most were very young and rah-rah but completely dumb about campaign work and about issues voters care about.  They could talk about Iraq and hopeandchange, and many of them marvelled over this new thing called primaries. 

I recall an episode of West Wing when during Bartlett’s first foray into the primaries his political director fired all of his staff and replaced them with experienced pros.  Why, Bartlett asked.  Because, sir, you are going to win.

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By Grommitt, March 7, 2008 at 8:49 pm Link to this comment
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Jeez, so she’s spot on, calling Hillary as she sees her.  Big deal.  Many others see Hillary the same way.  A simple, perfunctory apology for a slip of the tongue would be quite sufficient.  If Samantha is as good in policy formulation as they say, don’t let her drift away.  We need her brilliance more than the media need her scalp for a casual, indiscreet observation.  Heck, the political world tolerated far worse from Carl Rove.

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By troublesum, March 7, 2008 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment

Obama must be a pretty decent guy.  With the boatloads of dirt on the Clintons out there any other candidate running against them would get down and dirty.  THE DOSSIER ON HILLARY CLINTON was featured on c-span’s BOOK TALK a few months ago.  There’s enough dirt there to sink her campaign.

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By Gabir, March 7, 2008 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

How absurd can the “Art of Political Correctness” get ??? This type of political timidity by the Obama camp is a signal of serious trouble ahead for Mr. Obama’s campaign . If he does not realize soon that in at least some situations he must put the gloves on and duke it out with the Clinton Mudslingers , he will begin to appear as a skinny weakling , always intimidated by the schoolyard bully .
  That a key advisor must resign over calling someone a MONSTER (????????????) is something you would expect from John Kerry , who seems to apologize for everything short of being John Kerry .
    Maybe our little boys and girls in Washington could work out some key legislation making name calling a crime punishable by the guilty party having to wear a Dunce Cap for a week . Imagine 90 % of the politicians walking around , displaying the hat made perfectly for them . That Samantha Power resigned over such a petty issue shows just how hollow these candidates are . Samantha Power should have sat tight and forced Mr. Obama to ask for her resignation - or is that the real story behind this “resignation” ??????????

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By Leefeller, March 7, 2008 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment

Calling Hillary a Monster can was in bad taste, but is it now? Samantha Power’s said Hillary was a Monster and Hillary would stoop to any lengths to become president.  Now saying Hillary was a monster seems almost past tense. Like saying Bush was a moron, so he isn’t one now? 

Saying someone is a Monster would be more direct the same as calling them a Monster. Now Hillary likes to twist words, so it depends on what you mean by Monster.

Hillary should use the Monster Mash as her theme song.

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By drh, March 7, 2008 at 8:25 pm Link to this comment
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I couldn’t agree less. I think you are missing a central message of Obama’s campaign. He is presenting voters with a real option of change, not through false words but real actions: maintaining dignity, keeping focused on the issues, speaking truth to power, not following Clinton into her domain - the gutter. It will be up for voters to see the truth for themselves and decide, or not. That’s democracy. And his attitude shows _true_ patriotism: a fundamental belief in our system of governance and the will of The People. I only hope he is right…

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By Maani, March 7, 2008 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

Outraged:

Your comparison is so ludicrous as to be laughable.  Comparing the tactics used in political campaigns to “rape?”  Please.

I never suggested that it was “acceptable” for Hillary to get “down and dirty.”  I only suggested that it was absurd for Obama to assume that just because HE might not engage in “politics as usual,” that she would not either, thus leaving himself with nowhere to go.

The better comparison would be law.  If I am a lawyer who decides to only “play nice” in court and only gently question the prosecutor’s witnesses - and I do this assuming that the prosecutor is going to do likewise and not play hardball and attempt to discredit MY witnesses - then I am a fool who has left myself nowhere to go, and am certain to lose the case.

Peace.

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By Outraged, March 7, 2008 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment

Making the assumption that it acceptable for Clinton to get “down and dirty” by employing the tactics that she has and that Obama “should have forseen it” is ludicrious.  This is the same logic as blaming a woman for getting raped.  Since apparently if she had any sense she would have been “dirtier” than her rapist and not “painted herself into that corner”.

On top of that, Clinton is a monster and has shown that by her tactics right along.  To tell the truth, no matter how ugly isn’t wrong, it’s honorable.

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By Sam Davis, March 7, 2008 at 7:20 pm Link to this comment
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There are lots of things about Hilary that rub me the wrong way; she’s just too tied into the status quo in DC.  That being said, when you compare her to McCain she looks pretty good.  If she gets the nomination I’ll vote for her but it will be really hard for me to campaign for her with a good conscience.  I guess it’s like the Mickey Gilley song: “The girls all get prettier at closing time.”

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By Maani, March 7, 2008 at 6:47 pm Link to this comment

As I noted in another thread, there was really nothing else Power could do but resign - and as quickly as possible - since, like it or not, this would have become an increasing PR problem for Obama and his campaign.  That is, Power knew that if she stayed, she could become a liability very quickly. For this, I give her enormous credit.  And there is actually nothing stopping Obama from tapping her again if he becomes president.

That said, this shows how Obama’s judgment re politics, and particularly political campaigns, was flawed from the beginning.  He promised to run on a “new kind of politics” that did not engage in the types of tactics used by others.  However, by doing so he painted himself into a corner, because he cannot now get “down and dirty” against Hillary without compromising the very foundation of his campaign.

Blame Hillary all you want for HER tactics, but for Obama not to have seen this as a possibility and leave himself some wiggle room was a poor decision lacking foresight.

Peace.

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By QuyTran, March 7, 2008 at 6:42 pm Link to this comment

How stupid is she ? And Harvard professor is also stupid !

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By Maani, March 7, 2008 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment

MMC:

No, that is the act of a flawed human being.  Your comment belies your claims of Christian love.

Peace.

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By Kim, March 7, 2008 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t you find it a little scary how people who say things that Hillary doesn’t like seem to lose their jobs immediately?  It’s not just Samantha Powers, remember the reporter who said they were pimping out Chelsea on the campaign trail?  I don’t see much difference between the Clinton machine and the Bush machine, both are self-serving and overbearing.  I’ve had enough of it.

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By Rick, March 7, 2008 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment
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I understand why she can’t say this, but it doesn’t make her any less right.

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By desertdude, March 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm Link to this comment

she is like the Bitch of Buchenwald. So she is a monster, but we can’t be honest in America anymore.

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By Kimberly, March 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment
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I’m an Obama supporter and I think Powers’ stepping down was the right thing to do. I happen to share her sentiments (not necessarily that Hillary is a monster, but certainly that she’ll go to nearly any lengths to win). However, Powers was a member of Obama’s campaign team, and her tone isn’t in keeping with the campaign’s spirit or message. It’s just an unfortunate situation.

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By Leefeller, March 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment

The people will never win the white house.

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By Leefeller, March 7, 2008 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

Scottish monsters are different than our monsters, don’t they believe in leprechauns and Ogre’s?  Let’s face it calling Hillary a monster is unacceptable in the Scottish book of manners,, we should all learn our manners from people who wear Kilts and play instruments that sound like Hillary.

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By free kid, March 7, 2008 at 4:34 pm Link to this comment
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Clinton

Voted FOR the Invasion of Iraq without even reading the National Intelligence Estimate

Voted to suspend the Bill of Rights (Human Rights) and permanently extend that suspension via the Patriot Act

Opposes the complete repeal of DOMA (the Defense of Marriage Act)

Supported Israel’s massive military assault on the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon and the Gaza Strip which took the lives of over 1,000 civilians, half of whom were children.  Even Bush was critical.  Israeli Officers, appalled at their orders to attack civilians protested… not Clinton

Opposed the Land Mine Ban

Opposed limiting exportation of Cluster Bombs which kill and maim 98% civilians, many children

Critical of International Court of Justice for its 2004 advisory ruling that the Fourth Geneva Conventions on the Laws of War - legally binding on all signatory nations

Supports Torture with mealy mouthed caveats… “I have said that those are very rare but if they occur there has to be some lawful authority for pursuing that”

War Criminal Advisors: Madeleine Albright, she was the main force behind the Iraq sanctions that killed more than 400,000 Iraqi civilians. General Wesley Clark, he was the one who ran the bombing of Serbia in the former Yugoslavia, came out and publicly said that he was going after civilian targets, like electrical plants, like the TV station there. Richard Holbrooke, in the Carter administration he was the one who oversaw the shipment of weapons to the Indonesian military as they were invading—illegally invading East Timor and killing a third of the population there, and he was the one who kept the UN Security Council from enforcing its resolution against that invasion. Strobe Talbott, he was the one who, during the Clinton administration, oversaw Russia policy, a backing of Yeltsin, which resulted in turning over the national wealth to the oligarchs and a drop in life expectancy in much of Russia of about fifteen years—massive, massive death. And you have various backers of the Iraq invasion and occupation and the recent escalation, people like General Jack Keane, Michael O’Hanlon and others.

I’m sorry.  HILLARY CLINTON IS A MONSTER…

Hate to tell ya.

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By mitt, March 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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WOW!  If Hillary had called barack a monster the above posts would have been outrage.
Hypocrisy runs rampid!!!!

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By PatrickHenry, March 7, 2008 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment

Now that she isn’t a team player, I hope she gives some media interviews while her name is still in the public mind and speak her mind unabated by political correctness.

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By GW=MCHammered, March 7, 2008 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
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I’m no Democrat, but were she a Republican they would fire her then give her a $10 million a year talk show on Fox ... Hey CNN!

Say, has anybody seen our Free Speech? It’s missing. And Kill Political Correctness. Please!

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By cyrena, March 7, 2008 at 2:34 pm Link to this comment

You hit it here on the head felicity,

All of the torture, and the other hatred, and the killings, and the injustices, and on and on…

And then this is the reaction to calling someone a monster. Would it have made a difference to use a more appropriate word to say the same things?

Besides the ‘monster’ part, she said that Hillary was ‘stooping to anything’ to clinch the nomination.

That much is certainly true, so maybe she should have just left out the monster part?

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By kokuaguy in honolulu, March 7, 2008 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
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Many “Obamasists” wear buttons and stickers with one word: “Hope.” The word should be replaced with one which more accurately and descriptively describes their attitudes and conduct: “Audacity.”

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By Donna Bubb, March 7, 2008 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment
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Monster is a good word for Hillary because she’s
that and more—a truly dangerous human being
without shame who will stoop to anything to get the
nomination. Her tongue is with the American people but her heart and her actions are with corporate America. She’s absolutely Israeli occupied territory, a war monger, a wholehearted promoter of the U.S. military industrial media complex. A vote for Hillary is bad for America.

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By Conservative Yankee, March 7, 2008 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment
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If you label a monster as such, you would only be pointing out an obvious.

The Clinton’s ARE insatiable monsters, and they have an appetite for money power, and absolute authority… makes me wonder if they have some clandestine relationship with Bush family and friends.

Real working people have been trod on and eaten by these scurrilous slimy beasts.

The stink of corruption, the erotic domination positions and looks, and the real possibility of murder permeates the Clinton Dynasty. 

actually,  Samantha Power was awfully hard on monsters.

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By felicity, March 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

MONSTER - unnatural beast, creature, ogre, brute, thing…

Odd, there’s so much cruelty, injustice, hatred, crudeness and rudeness in today’s world, but call someone a monster and you’ve committed a mortal sin.

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By Sang Ze, March 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment
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Why the Democrats will never win the white house.

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