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Medvedev Wins Amid Murmurs of Election Flaws

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Posted on Mar 3, 2008
Putin and Medvedev
AP photo / RIA Novosti, Dmitry Astakhov, pool

Passing the presidential baton: Vladimir Putin, left, leads a salute to his successor, Dmitry Medvedev, in Moscow’s Red Square following Sunday’s vote.

It wasn’t a surprise victory by any stretch when Vladimir Putin’s political heir apparent, Dmitry Medvedev, soundly trounced the competition Sunday to become Russia’s next president. However, at least one election-vetting organization, as well as dozens of activists arrested by police as they gathered in Moscow to protest, questioned whether democracy truly won the day.


BBC:

German congratulations were mixed with regret about apparent irregularities. Mr Medvedev, 42, won by a landslide.

In Moscow, police arrested dozens of people ahead of an opposition rally.

[...] Earlier, the head of observers from the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), Andreas Gross, said Russia’s “democratic potential” was unfulfilled.

Mr Gross, whose team was the only Western observer mission in Russia, said candidates had been denied equal access to the media, and registration procedures made it hard for independents to stand.

But he conceded that Mr Medvedev had a solid mandate.

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By RickinSF, March 3 at 9:37 pm #
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We have a cretin in the White House.
I cannot bring myself to complain about the Russians.

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By CJ, March 3 at 8:10 pm #
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Our presidents never cheat, lie, steal and murder—not much. Except for Richard Nixon in collusion with Henry Kissinger, of course, as he’s the exception believed to prove the rule. Along with shrub by now.

Russia, much less Russian leadership is never reported on honestly in media in this country, thanks to ongoing Cold-War mentality that never died in big media. Not likely in Germany either, where former West Germans are still bitching and moaning about having had to absorb former East Germans. There’s “freedom” in the abstract (a la George Bush and crew), and then there’s real-life economics.

No doubt Medvedev DID win in a landslide, since as it turns out (not unlike in the case of Castro in Cuba and Chavez in Venezuela, to name just two), the actually average Russian, as opposed to Russia’s nouveau riche always presented in media here as the “average” Russian, loves Putin, and so likely voted for the guy Putin designated. Greatly-still-loved-here Bill Clinton hasn’t designated his wife? And Ted Kennedy and Oprah, Barack?

Distinction without a difference.

Putin pursued a policy of ruthless brutality against Chechnya; but then, after the Beslan massacre (which was just as heinous a crime as any in history, including the Holocaust and 9/11, and Mi Lai and Haditha, and Sabra and Shatila, and genocide by Turks upon Armenians and Hutus upon Tutsis—to mention just a few and assuming body-count is hardly the measure of the heinousness of the crime)… Which doesn’t mean assorted Russian leaders’ policy toward Chechnya was thereby— retrospectively—justified. Our own war on Afghanistan has never been justified, anymore than Taliban’s on Afghan women. (Chomsky has explained why there is no such thing as “just war,” back when he addressed senior West Point Cadets. Addressing those people on that topic would scare the hell outta me! Except they listened, and then applauded and then gave him a gift. Not really surprisingly when one remembers that persons in the military are faced with or already have endured real war. Unlike Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly, who never endured anything more than a pain-killer and a loofa, respectively.)

Despite patently silly claims to the contrary, the Russian people aren’t somehow by nature given to authoritarianism. No human being is. At the same time, no people’s history could be more different from our own than that of the Russian people.

Which is to say most in the West (and most anywhere else) don’t know nothin’ about what it is or has been to be Russian, especially over the last century.

Harvard-educated blowhards from here could hardly get themselves over to Moscow fast enough to award state-owned industries to a handful of individuals who then took full advantage while the actual average Russian endured yet further impoverishment under “new” capitalism. Yeah, new bosses not too different from old bosses, except worse.

At least Putin otherwise (always an “otherwise” in the case of political leaders) reined in new billionaire bastards, who, same as ones here and elsewhere around the world, imagine themselves a breed apart, same as do run-of-the-mill sociopaths. In fairness, they are indeed a breed apart, products of sick societies, and so not themselves responsible for their condition. Still, ruinous for those not quite so narcissistically given to lust for wealth (power at the same time) at any cost in a process of quenching narcissistic thirst, which of course is unquenchable. (Political science is forever leaving out social psychology.)

Seems to me, Russians made a better choice than we’ve made in over 30 years. I doubt Russians ever forget their history, same as Middle Easterners never forget theirs. Nor Latin Americans and Native Americans, et al. Santayana recommended as much to all, but we…we keep forgetting.

Americans, much less Germans, are in no position to criticize out of context given their histories.

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By jackpine savage, March 3 at 6:58 pm #
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Vot, eta Rossiya

I’m glad to see that most of the comments recognize that we, Americans, have very little room for finger wagging.

You’ll never hear me say that V.V. Putin is a great guy, but he probably has been instrumental in producing the most livable Russian society in the last 100 years.

It is probably necessary to have first hand experience with the Russia of the 1990’s in order to understand how and why he stands as he does.  Did he rig this election?  Almost certainly.  Did he rig his second election?  Probably, but even The Economist (perhaps the most anti-Putin news source in the world...unless Kasparov has started a newspaper) admits that he doesn’t need to rig an election to win it.

While we Westerners are easily mortified by the stories we hear from Putin’s Russia, we should keep in mind what the average Russian has lived through.  There are still Russians who lived through Stalin.  The murders of a few journalists don’t really rate as “repression” if your parents got sent to the gulag.  And while the Western press frets over Putin’s treatment of the oligarchs, they have been utterly despised in Russia for a decade.

Finally, it is true that Russians have a soft spot for tyrants and despots.  There is a telling line in the film Russian Ark that talks about how the more cruel a Russian leader is, the more beloved he is.  This trait is often pinned on the Asiatic nature of the Russians...be it fair or not. 

BTW, if you’ve never seen the film, its worth renting.  You won’t understand it unless you know Russian history inside and out, but its worth it for the overwhelming visual nature (and the fact that the whole thing was filmed in a single take.)

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 3 at 9:03 pm #
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Re: Vot, eta Rossiya

By jackpine savage, March 3: “You’ll never hear me say that V.V. Putin is a great guy, but he probably has been instrumental in producing the most livable Russian society in the last 100 years.... the Asiatic nature of the Russians...”

Russia is a bridge between east and West which spans 11 time zones and millenia of cultures from European to east Asian and including Islam. If the Causacus is the birthplace of your ancestors, the Russians are related to you… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5PoedKBq-Y&feature =related

Putin is an ordinary guy but he made himself into something worthy of respect and admiration. Conversely, Bush came from a fine family but made himself into an animal - he is merely a monkey draped with the American flag, uhh.

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By jackpine savage, March 4 at 4:51 am #
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Re: Re: Vot, eta Rossiya

Nice contrast between Putin and Bush.  I hear you on the bridge between east and west.  Mostly i didn’t want to delve too deeply on that because it can get rather complicated, i.e. the Russians have never decided which way to face.  Their philosophers and historians have been arguing about it for a couple hundred years.  But truly, the Russians are a blend of two (with a third, counting the Caucasians) anthropological groups.

There are some downsides to V.V. Putin, but he certainly commands respect.  It would have been interesting to see what kind of leader he was if the US hadn’t been acting so surreptitiously belligerent towards Russia for his whole reign as president.

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By samuel burke, March 3 at 6:31 pm #
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so both russia and the united states have undemocratic central governments that use the press to serve their interests at the expense of its citizens,
and the only ones who dont know this truth are the same citizens on whose vote they depend on for election.

the only Western observer mission in Russia, said candidates had been denied equal access to the media, and registration procedures made it hard for independents to stand.

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By chez mois, March 3 at 5:09 pm #
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BUD OUT!

WE SHOULD MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!

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By PatrickHenry, March 3 at 5:00 pm #
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Diebold?

Who is the U.S. to criticize anyone.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 3 at 6:11 pm #
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Re: Diebold?

This is what a government which runs things its own way calls democracy........

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By DennisD, March 3 at 4:37 pm #
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Figure the odds

“(Insert name here) Wins Amid Murmurs of Election Flaws” -

I look forward to this same headline after our 08 election. Any one want to bet.

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By nrobi, March 3 at 2:42 pm #
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All my life's a circle

With apologies to Harry Chapin --- This seems to be a rerun of the Soviet Union, doesn’t it?  I, thought that Russia was a democratic nation now, guess I was wrong.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when at first we do deceive. The majority of the nation, 70% voted for Dmitry Medvedev, wow isn’t that a coincidence? The same amount of people who voted Vladimir Putin into his second term of office as President for life of Russia. It seems that one way or another, that the Russian soul has the same need and desire for a strong leader who will make the decisions for them and take away the responsibility for the actions of the government away from the people.  Erich Fromm’s most insightful book, “Escape From Freedom,” comes to mind when I see the government of Russia, and the people of Russia going along with a tyrannical and despotic oligarchy. No more working for the people, if that ever happened, now the elite of Russia, work only for themselves and are proud of that fact.
Must we in America face another “cold war,” for the government of the US to open their eyes and see the writing on the wall? We face the same kind of “non-war” that we did in the 1950’s. But America must move away from the mindset of that era and work towards mutual understanding and agreement, not heating this conflict of words and actions to the boiling point as many would do. It is a shame that Russian people see the need for the kind of government that they have, but we all get the government that we deserve and vote for or in the case of Russia, that the fix was in and the Russian people didn’t care about.

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By Leefeller, March 3 at 2:38 pm #
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Democracy wins the day with fingers crossed

Not much difference between what Putin is doing in Russa and what has been going on here, if anyone is ruling the day, it seems to not be the people.

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By August West, March 3 at 3:01 pm #
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Re: Democracy wins the day with fingers crossed

The difference between the US and Russia is that in Russia, most people know the elections are rigged.

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By Maani, March 3 at 12:17 pm #
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“Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss.” (With apologies to Pete Townsend.)

Peace.

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