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Scores Killed in Israeli Attacks on Gaza

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Posted on Mar 1, 2008
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A Palestinian medic evacuates an injured child following an Israeli airstrike in Gaza City on Saturday.

Attacks by Israeli forces killed more than 70 Palestinians on Saturday as fighting intensified in northern Gaza, prompting Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to call the incursion “more than a holocaust.” Abbas made the comment in response to Israeli Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai’s warning Friday that Palestinians “are bringing upon themselves a greater Shoah” with their ramped-up rocket fire.

The number of civilian casualties, as well as the overall death toll, rose throughout the day and varied according to the source. Two Israeli soldiers were killed and seven were wounded, the Israeli military reported. Below, we’ve assembled a short list of links to sources offering varying viewpoints, opinions and estimates as of Saturday afternoon.

Update 1: The BBC now puts the death toll at roughly 100 people.

Update 2: Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has broken off contact with Israel over the attacks.

Update 3: The Israeli military says it has withdrawn most of its troops from Northern Gaza.


According to The New York Times, “Half the dead were reported to be Hamas gunmen or those belonging to affiliated groups like Islamic Jihad. But as many as 19 Palestinian civilians also died in the heavily populated area, including four children, according to Dr. Moawiya Hassanain of the Gazan Health Ministry.”

The online English-language version of Israel’s Haaretz newspaper reported that 61 Palestinians had died on Saturday [the New York Times story said “at least 46 people” were killed]. Haaretz said also that “at least 29 [Palestinian] civilians” were among the dead.

The right-leaning Jerusalem Post on Saturday offered its own take, evidenced by the Post lead: “Two IDF [Israel Defense Forces] soldiers were killed and five others wounded [Saturday] during a military operation meant to combat the ongoing Palestinian rocket fire on Israeli cities in the western Negev.”

WAFA, the Palestine News Agency, kept tabs on the day’s reports on its news site, telling readers at one point that “at least 81 citizens were killed” since this latest round of violence erupted Wednesday. It also reported Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ call for international protection for the Palestinian people” and his pronouncement that the attacks constitute “more than a holocaust.”

According to this story by The International Middle East Media Center, an independent media center developed by Palestinian and international journalists, “Palestinian medical sources reported that the death toll in the Gaza Strip stood at 56 by Saturday night.”

The Palestinian/Israeli Alternative Information Center, a “joint Palestinian-Israeli activist organization,” issued this “Joint Statement Against the Israeli Airstrikes on the Gaza Strip,” signed by Israeli, Palestinian, Scandinavian and European organizations, on Saturday.

 

 

 

 



 

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By Expat, March 2, 2008 at 6:11 am Link to this comment

^ in the “final solution” for Gaza then I think we have sunk to the lowest common denominator.  We will be in McCains 1000 year war.

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By Expat, March 2, 2008 at 6:01 am Link to this comment

^ are experts in their respective fields; Jackpine Savage (Russia) and apparently you (Middle East).  I like your point of view.  I keep hoping “we” won’t attack Iran, but those in the know seem to think we will; either directly or through our insane proxy Israel.
As to our docility; appalled is hardly a strong enough word: Cowardly is much more like it.  I have never seen us so afraid, never!  I am ashamed of us.

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By weather, March 2, 2008 at 5:03 am Link to this comment
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Howard, if you love Israel move there, pls. stay there and fix it.

Israel has made America very sick, but keep lying to yourself and everyone else, it what you do best.

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By Howard, March 2, 2008 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

Israel left Gaza in 2005.  Hamas, which took it over has declared war on Israel. Its their official policy and in their covenent. For 2 years missles have come over daily onto civilians. Hamas cannot run Gaza. They run it with an iron hand. But its been a failure.

Now is time to turn it over to Egypt. The Gazans were ruled by Egypt from 1948 thru 1967.  They are kinsmen and brothers.

How to achieve Gaza’s transfer?

Robert Satloff of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy suggests that Jerusalem announce three steps: “a date certain for the severing of Israel’s provision of water, electricity and trade access, free entry for replacement services through Egypt, and an invitation for international support to link Gaza to Egyptian grids.”

Giora Eiland, a former Israeli national security adviser, would also detach Gaza from its customs union with Israel and the West Bank.

These Israeli initiatives would force the Egyptian hand. Sure, the Egyptians, with help from Fatah and even Hamas, will try to resurrect the border and put the onus back on Israel. But in the end, Arab solidarity demands that Egyptian “brothers” fill in for the Israeli enemy. Once Jerusalem cuts supplies, Cairo has no choice but to furnish them. Economic dependence would then further involve Egypt, which has further consequences. It:

Revives the old idea of resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict via a three-way partition by Egypt, Israel, and Jordan.

Permits Hamas to connect with its parent organization, the Muslim Brethren. Indeed, Egyptian security forces have already arrested at least 12 armed Hamas members in Egypt and other Gazans with suicide belts. Controlling Islamist violence out of Gaza will become an Egyptian priority - but Mubarak has coped with Islamists throughout his 27-year presidency and he can deal with this new challenge in ways that Israel cannot.

Limits the freedom for Hamas and Islamic Jihad to attack Israel. Yes, Egyptians want rockets falling on Sderot, but Cairo knows that their continuation invites Israeli reprisals and possibly a full-scale war.

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By weather, March 2, 2008 at 3:48 am Link to this comment
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and the World breaks out into a new happiness and peace.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 2, 2008 at 3:38 am Link to this comment

Thanks for the link, bdogmania, but it was actually “brought to us” by AlJazeera, uhh…...

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By brewerstroupe, March 2, 2008 at 3:00 am Link to this comment

I must say I am a little concerned that there is a confluence of conditions that may force Israel’s hand towards the final solution. As I mentioned before, the possibility of an Obama Presidency has got them worried. Despite the lip-service he has paid to AIPAC, he doesn’t appear to carry much water for the Neo-Cons. Exiting Iraq also has them spooked. The plan was to break it up so it could never again threaten Israel, then follow through in Iran. McCain of course is on the team, as is Hillary. Obama is a bit of a wild card. If Obama fulfills his pledge to exit Iraq before the dismemberment of the corpse of that poor country, Iran will assist in putting it back together and Israeli expansion may have to go into recess for a while.

For this reason I suspect that the Israelis will use the remaining months of the Bush/Neo-Con Presidency to create as many “facts on the ground” as they can and to hell with the consequences.

One must understand that Israel cares little for World opinion for it’s own sake but it does try to keep the average American on side in case he begins to question why his tax dollars are funding this genocide.

At times like these when Americans are focused on elections, the Israeli hounds are let loose. You can actually chart their activities alongside such attention grabbing events. There was a spike in activities in Gaza during the Lebanon affair and subsequent to 911 for instance.

I"m afraid to say that many of us antipodeans are appalled at the docility of the American public. As far as I have been able to ascertain, no Senator or Congressman has even asked what the USS Cole is doing in those waters.

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By cyrena, March 2, 2008 at 2:21 am Link to this comment

Well Chalmers, we’re in complete agreement on this. Gunboat diplomacy is the name of the plan though.

I’m just wondering though, about the suggestion that the US doesn’t know what to do about Lebanon. On the one hand, that makes sense, because the US doesn’t know what to do about ANY of the shit they’ve stirred up in the Middle East!

On the other hand, it sounds highly likely that the US is there for exactly what Brewerstroupe said…to back Israel in a major demolition of everybody, but specifically Gaza. Why would they other US allies (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Bahrain) be advising their people to get out and/or not go in?

I hate to sound so dramatic and pessimistic, but it just seems like a set-up for a massacre of Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria.

And while it is certainly the moment for the US to have some dialogue with Syria, it’s actually years PAST the moment, which is why my thoughts are so dire. I don’t think there was ever a plan to do anything more than wipe out those that GW determined to be the ENEMIES years ago. Dialogue is just never a tool of gunboat diplomacy, and it’s all this administration knows.

This ties to an interview with Seymour Hirsh on Israel’s incursion into Syria some months ago. (or whenever it was). Here’s the link if you can make any sense of it. I mean, I can understand what he’s saying, but I don’t know. It’s all very creepy.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021408A.shtml

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 2, 2008 at 2:07 am Link to this comment

Yes, PT, its hard to read when they say one thing but….... http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9258.shtml

Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni…. “It must be clear to everyone that the state of Israel is a national homeland for Jewish people,” she said.

Livni went on to say that a future Palestinian state would provide a homeland for Palestinians worldwide, including those currently residing in Israel. “The national demands of Israeli Arabs should end the moment a Palestinian state is established,” she said.

The comments drew angry reactions from Arab figures in Israel. Some said the statements portended the eventual expulsion of Israel’s Arab citizens, who represent roughly 25 percent of Israel’s population of about six million.

“The residence and citizenship [of Israel’s Arab population] are not open for discussion,” Arab Knesset member Ghaleb Majadleh was quoted as saying. “Anyone who raises the idea of transferring the Arab population in Israel ... is anti-democratic.”

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 2, 2008 at 1:59 am Link to this comment

They’re trying to use Lebanon’s PM as an excuse now, brewerstroupe…..

Saudis urged to leave Lebanon - Lebanon’s prime minister denies asking the US for
the warship’s deployment….... http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665.htm

The Saudi Arabian embassy in Beirut has called on its nationals to leave Lebanon a day after a US warship was positioned off the country’s coast.
The embassy on Saturday sent SMS messages to Saudis living in Lebanon urging them to leave the country as soon as possible, Al Jazeera’s correspondent said.


Saudi Arabia issued an advisory last month urging its citizens not to travel to Lebanon because of deteriorating political and security conditions.
Kuwait and Bahrain followed with similar calls….

Earlier, Richard Murphy, a former US ambassador to Syria, told Al Jazeera that the move was a sign that the US did not know what to do about Lebanon.

“It is gunboat diplomacy. I think it would be more useful for the US to find a way to engage with the conflicting parties in Lebanon. “We have no dialogue with Syria and this is a moment for dialogue.” 

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By cyrena, March 2, 2008 at 1:24 am Link to this comment

Oh my God!!I swear I never made this connection. There are 3 warships en route, and yes..the ‘assumption’ was that they were to harass Syria..maybe to follow-up on the Israeli attack on Syria several weeks ago.

I say ‘assumption’ only because I got a quick read at a ‘response’ from Syria, regarding these deployments. I never made this connection, and I don’t know why.

I’m terrorized just sitting here thinking about it. Gaza will be (is) a literal sitting duck for these war ships backing Israel. I don’t know where any help could come from, other than possibly Iran. Could that be the plan as well? To draw Iran in, as they’ve wanted to do anyway?

Of course it’s a real threat, but how can they possibly believe they are going to ‘cover it up’?

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By brewerstroupe, March 2, 2008 at 12:39 am Link to this comment

The greatest crime committed by this U.S./Israeli regime is the emasculation of the institution that was designed to put an end to war - the U.N.

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By brewerstroupe, March 2, 2008 at 12:33 am Link to this comment

The US declined to say whether the decision to deploy the USS Cole was a show of force aimed at Syria, which it has accused of interfering in Lebanon.

The United States believes a show of support is important for regional stability,” the official said.

Gaza link

Nabih Berri, the (Lebanese) parliament speaker, who is aligned with the opposition, has linked the deployment of the warships to Israel’s raids in the Gaza Strip.

“The target [of US warships] is Gaza. It is aimed to allow what must happen in Gaza to happen without anyone moving to support [the Palestinians],” he said.

“This is a real threat, not merely a muscle-flexing.”

Berri also said that the US military move was designed to focus attention on Lebanon “in order to cover up the massacres being committed in Gaza”.

“This [US] fleet comes to back Israel so that it can complete its plan,” he said.

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By P. T., March 2, 2008 at 12:27 am Link to this comment

She’s pretty creepy herself.

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By cyrena, March 1, 2008 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

Actually, Israel DOES ‘hate freedom’ at least for the Palestinians.

And, in-so-far as what the Evil Moron says, about the ‘terrorists’ allegedly ‘hating OUR freedoms’...what he means is that they hate the FREEDOMS that we take throughout the region that is their native land, and sovereign territory.

We’ve been taking so many freedoms there, and for so long, putting our military and all of our warships on their front doorsteps, and stealing all of their resources, that the Evil Moron is actually correct, even if he’s too stupid to know it. They do hate THOSE ‘freedoms.”

Who wouldn’t?

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By cyrena, March 1, 2008 at 11:46 pm Link to this comment

Brewerstrope,

You’ve said it all, right here. And yep, I’ve said it as well.

If the American people don’t understand, or WON’T understand, that the continued genocide of the Palestinian people is the reason for any and every alleged ‘terrorist’ attack that occurs, (including every single one that targets our military anywhere in the Middle East) than there is little hope.

The problem is that I believe they DO understand this, and that as long as those in power (the current Gangsters of the now Totalitarian Regime that represents the Us government) feel ‘safe’ themselves…and they do…then they don’t CARE what happens to the rest of us!!

We already KNOW how complicit the US Government is in the continued genocide. How would they NOT have otherwise stopped it? If they didn’t figure out after the bombing of the barracks in Lebanon, and the first bombing of the WTC, and the USS Cole, and the embassies in Africa, then they are totally stupid, and I don’t believe that. I just know that they don’t care!!! At least not anyone in this administration.

There may be a few scattered here and there in Congress, but not enough to have any power. And, since the larger part of the American public is UNAWARE…(and they are, because we are kept in the dark, at least until the Internet) then…there we have it.

And, so it will be, until the American people take charge of their own government again, and stop assisting in the genocide, and use their power within the International community to stop it.

But, who am I kidding on that? At this point, it’s WHAT ‘power’ within the International Community? Hell, WE need UN intervention as much as the Palestinians do!!

At least I feel as powerless as they do.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 1, 2008 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment

Israel is leading America and the West down a long dark road….....

How can anyone “hate freedom”? Hamas is the democratically elected government of Palestine and their people have been fighting for their freedom for the past 60 years, uhh.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 1, 2008 at 11:21 pm Link to this comment

Most probably not, Expat. But it certainly opens the way….... to whoever planned the “Pearl-Harbor-like event” to do it all again, uhh.

They weren’t based in Israel, were they? Hardly what a bunch of hillbillies in the remote mountains of Afghanistan could cope with…...

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 1, 2008 at 11:13 pm Link to this comment

Slaughtering Children In Gaza - video http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19447.htm

A Genocidal War On Gaza - video http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19448.htm

Ms. Tzipi Livni, Israel’s foreign minister, has already called on Ehud Olmert to resign the post of prime minister last year and said she would seek to take over as leader of the Kadima party. Perhaps when the boys’ club is finalaly removed….......??? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7758E98D-C4BB-4FE2-A767-B86202F524DA.htm

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By P. T., March 1, 2008 at 11:01 pm Link to this comment

According to polling, a large majority of the Israeli public favors a ceasefire, which Hamas has offered.  Israel’s government is opposed, meaning its ruling class is opposed.

A ceasefire would leave Hamas in power, and Israel and the U.S. will only accept quislings.  The problem is the attacks on Gaza have not led the people to turn against Hamas.  The same Israeli/U.S. problem occurred in Lebanon when the people there backed Hezbollah in the war.

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By brewerstroupe, March 1, 2008 at 10:06 pm Link to this comment

I posted this on my blog in September 2006:

Who said it?

King Abdullah II of Jordan said it:
“The wellspring of regional division, the source of resentment and frustration far beyond, is the denial of justice and peace in Palestine.”

President Ahmadineajad of Iran said it:

“A regime has been established which does not show mercy even to kids, destroys houses while the occupants are still in them, announces beforehand its list and plans to assassinate Palestinian figures and keeps thousands of Palestinians in prison. Such a phenomenon is unique – or at the very least extremely rare – in recent memory.
Another big question asked by people is why is this regime being supported?”
http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:v5RWPlOBK90J:news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/09_05_06ahmadinejadletter.pdf+Iran+letter&hl=en&gl=nz&ct=clnk&cd=3


Oama Bin Laden said it:

“All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.”
http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

W. Scott Thompson Adjunct Professor of International Politics. The Fletcher School, Tufts University, Former White House Fellow and Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (1975-77) said it:

“An international coalition to rid the region and the world of a monster is a good thing. Why then does Washington have so little international support for its imminent war to achieve “regime change” in Iraq?...
The real reason why America can’t get support for its war can be summed up in one word, Palestine. On a broader front the creation of a Palestinian state would remove the sting that young Arabs have felt so poignantly. And then, instead of seeing the West’s inevitable victory over Saddam Hussein in Iraq as yet another humiliation, they could look to the building of new foundations of - we hope - democratic Arab states throughout the Middle East.”
“Iraq - It’s the Right War, But at the Wrong Time”
The Nation (Thailand)March 18, 2003”

I say it:

The key to the whole problem is the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

George Bush said:

“They hate our freedom.”.


In all of the thousands of speeches given by members of the U.S. administration, not one has touched on this subject, not even to dismiss it. This tells us that they are complicit in this real-time genocide. 

To label Palestinians “Arabs” (as certain racist posters on this site do) is as misleading as calling the Swiss “Europeans”. It misses the point. The Palestinian people are a unique people with a unique culture which, if Israel has it’s way, will be extinguished.
There is not one jot of difference between this crime and the barbaric treatment of the Native American.

Americans should take a good long look at themselves. If the likes of Ahmadinejad and Bin Laden are proclaiming a truth about which the U.S. Government is keeping silent, America is in deep trouble.

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By Howard, March 1, 2008 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment

For 2 years and afer 2500 missles fired into Isarael, Hamas, which since its inception, has been declaring complete war, death and destruction of Israel, has finally reaped what it wants. A response from Israel, which up until now has been more than patient.

Now Hamas wants world sympathy. No one is fooled. If they would stop the incessant attacks against Israel there would have been no response from Israel.

The civilian casulties are Hamas’ fault.

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By cyrena, March 1, 2008 at 8:43 pm Link to this comment

Yep PT, you’re right. Zionists kill people in the occupied West Bank every single day. They also lock them up and torture them (in the WB) every day as well.

It’s a waste of your time to make that known to Marshall though, since there’s no doubt in my own mind at this point, that he already knows it.

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By cyrena, March 1, 2008 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment

Kind of makes ya wonder if we will EVER learn.

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By cyrena, March 1, 2008 at 8:34 pm Link to this comment

brewerstroupe,

Thanks for posting the words of Chief Seattle. I suspect that after 60 years, the Zionists are simply never going to get this. They won’t because they don’t want to.

There is something so incredibly evil and totally lacking in reason in the minds of terrorists. This is certainly nothing different than what Hitler and his Nazis did, but it just didn’t last this long.

The ideology is the poison, and it won’t go away, at least on it’s own. Hitler would never have stopped on his own. And, Hillary Clinton says that’s why we had to attack Iraq…because Saddam had never done anything without being FORCED to do it, or threatened with force.

Some of us take so much false strength from the rule of law. What the hell good is the rule of law, if it’s not enforced?

I’ve just read the joint statement by the various organizations that was at the end of the article. Several Human Rights organizations FROM ISRAEL, are in fact signatories. They condemn these acts.

Obviously, the Israeli government pays no more attention to THEM, than they do to the international laws.

Meantime, not a single solitary signatory from any US government or even US associated rights group. And no, I’m not surprised. As usual though, it makes me absolutely sick.

I guess I simply cannot understand why the UN is so totally impotent when it comes to Israel. But then, it’s equally impotent when it comes to the US.

Nobody seems to be able to stop the Terrorist Twins, from wrecking havoc on the world, but most specifically, the Palestinians and the rest of the Middle East.

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By Expat, March 1, 2008 at 8:31 pm Link to this comment

^ 9/11 was blowback and I fear more is coming because we haven’t learned.

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By Expat, March 1, 2008 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment

^ “Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves” is already apparent.

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By P. T., March 1, 2008 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment

Zionists kill Palestinians in the occupied West Bank all the time.

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By brewerstroupe, March 1, 2008 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment

It certainly seems that Israel has abandoned all pretense of moral superiority. Faced with growing World revulsion following the massive slaughter of Lebanese civilians (during it’s barely disguised attack in 2006) and the probable end to the Neo-Con capture of the White House, the decision to commence the end game is made.

As events unfold over the next few months, compare the words of Israel’s founders:

“(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls.”
—Israeli Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”
—David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!”
—Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

“The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations, for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country.”
—Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.

“It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”

—Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

“Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don’t grab will go to them.”
—Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

...with those of Chief Seattle:

“How can we buy the sky?
How can you own the wind?
Every part of this earth is sacred. Every pine needle. Every sandy shore.
Every mist in the dark woods.
We are part of the earth and the earth is part of us.
The air is precious. It shares its spirit with all the life it supports.
The wind that gave me my first breath also received my last sigh.
This we know: the earth does not belong to us. We belong to the earth.
The earth is our mother. What befalls the earth befalls all the son daughters of the earth.
All things are connected like the blood that unites us.
We did not weave the web of life. We are merely a strand in it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves”

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By fresheir, March 1, 2008 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment

After 9/11, many citizens in the United States asked, “Why did they do this to us?”

Like it or not, we in the United States are accomplices to the war crimes being committed in Gaza this weekend. 

When will the citizens of the United States wake up and realize that the strategic interests of the United States are NOT the same as the interests of Israel? 

Are we truly understanding of the consequences of our actions/deeds or are our collective heads in the sand?

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 1, 2008 at 5:50 pm Link to this comment

Massacres, killing and terrorism against the natives of Palestine was the original mission of the Zionists as designated by the Western military-industrial powers when they founded this brutal illegitimate entity. So, there is no surprise there that the chauvinist Zionists are doing their job. This is what they are paid to do by the white military-industrial complex in Europe and America.

But I find the greatest irony in the fact that they do the most savage of their killings and terrorism in their Sabbath. For violating the Sabbath the Zionist’s ancestors were punished with God’s Wrath in the past, as I learned from the Scriptures. After all these centuries they’re still doing the bedding of the Devil. Their so-called Prophet Joshua did that in the past when he entered the Holy Land as a marauder and militant occupier, destroying, killing “...until they did not leave any that breathed,” as they were instructed by their tribal god called Jehovah. (Joshua 6:15-21; 11/10-15)

In light of their ancient and modern history, I do not totally blame the Zionists for living up to the mission they were destined to perform. The problem I have now is why a Just and Living Universal God would allow this to happen and repeated?! If I get a satisfying answer to this perplexing question, I am willing to accept my death even if it was at the hands of those modern day Zionist marauders and terrorists.

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By Marshall, March 1, 2008 at 5:32 pm Link to this comment

Interesting that no one’s dying in the West Bank which, coincidentally, isn’t firing rockets into Israel.  Makes you think maybe there’s a cause and effect relationship going on there.  That and Hamas’ refusal to negotiate with a country whose right to exist they deny.

Is it unusual that there are civilian casualties in a military conflict?  Apparently, when it happens to Palestinians, it’s considered genocide.  When it happens to Isralis, it’s considered “resistance”.

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By lilmamzer, March 1, 2008 at 5:21 pm Link to this comment

“state terror”

Catchphrases like that make me want to say “kiss my big black Zionist ass” so I will:

Kiss My Big Black Zionist Ass

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By C Villarreal, March 1, 2008 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

Israel’s state terror campaign against the people in Gaza, and the one that has gone on for decades now against the people of Palestine must stop.  While I can’t condone the rocket attacks, there is a moral difference between rockets being fired from what is essentially an outdoor prison imposed upon the people in Gaza and the most powerful military in the region killing children with American-supplied weapons.  Most Isralis want a truce with Hamas, so you do not speak for most Israelis, and certainly not most of the world.  Not even close.

http://www.shoplifters.us

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By lilmamzer, March 1, 2008 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

GAZA DELENDA EST

If the Gazan Arabs don’t stop Hamas (and why would they - they voted them in) from the incessant rocket artillery barrage against Israeli population centers, then the IDF will have to do it, even if the Hamas terrorists hide amongst the general population.

Such is the price Gaza must pay for their genocidal terror war against Israel’s civilians. Justice and compassion demands no less than that for the innocent cvilians of Israel who have been subject to the Gazan Arab jihadi-terror genocide war for years.

G O I D F

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