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Iraq to Turkey: Get Out

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Posted on Feb 26, 2008

On Tuesday, the Iraqi Cabinet expressed extreme displeasure over the incursion of Turkish troops into the Kurdish northern region of Iraq and called for a halt to Turkish interference, which Cabinet officials called a “violation of Iraqi sovereignty.” Also on Tuesday, an apparent suicide attack on a bus headed toward Syria from Mosul in northern Iraq killed nine people, according to The New York Times.


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The attack took place about 500 yards from an Iraqi Army checkpoint in the town of Tmerat, 50 miles west of Mosul, where scores of recruits routinely gather at an Iraqi Army base, according to a military official who spoke on condition of anonymity. The recruits were probably the target and the bomb may have exploded prematurely, he said. Brig. Khalid Abdulsatar confirmed that nine had been killed and eight injured.

United States military pressure coupled with a change of allegiances by Sunni insurgents and a cease-fire by Shiite militias in southern and central Iraq has pushed remaining insurgents north to Mosul, US and Iraqi officials say. The city of two million has been the scene of fierce fighting in recent months and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki recently promised a “decisive battle” with insurgents there after 45 civilians were killed a month ago when a building was blown up in a Mosul neighborhood.

In northern Iraq, fighting continued for a fifth day as Turkish forces attacked P.K.K. rebel bases, while the Iraqi cabinet in Baghdad condemned the incursion and, in a statement, demanded its immediate halt.

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By Aegrus, February 27, 2008 at 5:04 pm #

I do not support the conflict in Iraq. I’m not old enough to have children eligible to be in the armed services. We are all at risk so long as our servicemen and women are in Iraq.

That said, Turkey is working with our blessing, and we are the occupying force at this time when the Iraqi government is supposedly not able to stand on its own. Therefore your analogy is false.

It isn’t helpful to the anti-war cause when people on our side cannot keep their focus on reality and make clear, keen and objective arguments about what’s happening on the ground in Iraq. No matter what the age of the individual, or their amount of experience, there is no excuse for disservice to the cause through quick and temperamental language.

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By Thomas Billis, February 27, 2008 at 4:40 pm #

According to the comments I read it would be okay if the Mexican army sent just a couple units across the border to protect its citizens who are being harassed on the border.Of course not the entire Mexican army just a couple of divisions.When we guaranteed Iraqi sovereignty that meant that we would protect Iraq against all invaders.The craziness goes on.Pretty soon thanks to the moron there will be war among the NATO allies.To the morons out there who think the surge is working the Army and the Marines can use all the sons and daughters you can serve up.Put your kids life where your mouth is.To those families who have made the ultimate sacrifice my heart goes out to you.I have no respect for the armchair patriots who continue to support this diastrious foreign policy as long as they risk nothing.

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By Aegrus, February 27, 2008 at 3:24 pm #

We’re helping these forces root out the Kurds because Iraqis have failed to address the problem as fully and timely as they should have. Iraq is still a destabilized nation regardless of how well or poorly you think the surge is working. Political progress must be made and Iraqi security forces must be strengthened before they can really address rebels outside of their cities.

I’m glad for what little progress has been made in the region, but the Iraqi government has to start standing firm and getting things accomplished. Al-Sadr has extended the cease fire. What the hell are you guys waiting for? We won’t have hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq forever, and if our government ever wakes up completely we won’t even have a base in the region. That’s a pipe dream, however.

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By thebeerdoctor, February 27, 2008 at 7:03 am #

The one true thing that can be said about the United States foreign policy is that weapons manufacturing takes priority over all other concerns. So one should not be too surprised that we are now playing the role of “ridge runner” between the Turks and the Kurds. Bombs, or the rumors of bombs, is sufficient reason to drop more bombs. Go figure…

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By JT, February 26, 2008 at 10:07 pm #
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1) One should not confuse PKK (Kurdish Workers Party) with Kurds. PKK is a Marksist-Leninist terror organization that is rejected by a big majority of Kurds.  PKK makes its money from drug trafficking and kills indiscriminently using suicide bombers (most recent PKK attack in Turkey hit a bus and half of the killed were school children). PKK uses N. Iraq as a safe haven to lauch hit and run attacks across the border in Turkey.

2) Turkey had been asking Iraqis and Americans for years to get rid of PKK camps in N. Iraq. Iraqis admit that they have no control on that part of the country high in the mountains. If Iraqis cannot clean up the terrorist bases in their territory, somebody has to do it for them. Turkey has repeteatedly declared that she respects Iraq’s territorial integrity. Turkey’s limited security operations are legitamete by international law. UN recognized Turkey’s right to self defense against PKK and asked Turkey to avoid civilian casualities in these operations and finish the job as soon as possible, which is precisely what Turkey is doing.

3) One does not “invade” a country with only a few thousand troops. Turkey has an army of 500,000 and has just sent 2-5K commandos targeting PKK camps in remote mountains in N. Iraq far away from any civilian populations. These operations are conducted in cooperation with US military intelligence. US feeds the Turks real-time satallite imagery to track PKK movements for precise targeting and avoiding civilians.

4) Turkey fights with PKK and not with Kurds. This is not an issue of Turks versus Kurds as some try to portray. Turkey is the biggest investor in Iraqi Kurdistan. Many hospitals, schools and hotels in Iraqi Kurdistan are built by Turks. N. Iraq gets almost all of its electricity and gas from Turkey. A prosperous and stable northern Iraq is in the best interest of Turkey.  PKK’s dream is to create an ethnic war between Kurds and Turks. It has not been successful until now. l doubt it that it will.

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By PatrickHenry, February 26, 2008 at 9:07 pm #

Our soldiers can use the help.  Perhaps the Turks can share in peacekeeping duties and cut down our exposure, at least until we can get outta there. 

Iran has legitimate concerns over whats going on next door in Iraq and absorbs much of the cost of the refugees fleeing the bombs, feuds and death squads.

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By rawdawgbufalo, February 26, 2008 at 7:28 pm #
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maybe we can urge the shite & sunni to join the Kurds and declare war against Turkey, that would unify the government more than we can, just a though on Iraq

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By Scott Knickelbine, February 26, 2008 at 5:46 pm #
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There’s this uplifting tidbid from Reuters:

”[Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip]Erdogan said on Tuesday that Turkey was receiving intelligence cooperation from the United States.”

So the U.S. is providing intelligence to support the invasion of a sovereign nation that we are shedding American blood to defend. Anybody else got a problem with this?

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