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Justice Investigates Itself Over Waterboarding Approval

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Posted on Feb 22, 2008

The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating memos and opinions rendered by the department that endorsed the practice of waterboarding, which many consider to be torture. The inquiry is unrelated to the FBI’s criminal investigation of the CIA, which destroyed video recordings of the waterboarding of suspects.


New York Times:

WASHINGTON—The Justice Department revealed on Friday that its internal ethics office is investigating the department’s legal approval of waterboarding of Al Qaeda suspects by the Central Intelligence Agency and is likely to make public an unclassified version of its report.

The disclosure by H. Marshall Jarrett, head of the department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, was the first public acknowledgment of an internal review of the series of legal memorandums the department has issued since 2002 authorizing waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods.

His report could become the first public accounting for legal advice that endorsed methods widely denounced by human rights groups and legal authorities as torture. Mr. Jarrett’s office can refer matters for criminal prosecution, but legal experts said the likely outcome was a public critique of the legal opinions on interrogation, conceivably including reprimands for some current or former Justice Department attorneys who drafted them.

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By Louise, February 26, 2008 at 9:42 am Link to this comment

Where do old repub shills go?

Well in John Yoo’s case, they go on to become an American professor of Law at the Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California, Berkeley.

And that is truly scary! Points out better than anything that could be said, why these perpetrators of torture in OUR name should be prosecuted for war crimes, found guilty and thrown in jail. I don’t want to waterboard them. Why should we sink to their level? I just want to see them tried for war crimes!

And I sure has h.e.double.q don’t want to see them educating law students!!!!

Now I think it’s extremely unlikely that “The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility” will behave in a professionally responsible way and find themselves guilty of anything. But I would like to hear specific details on how the various presidential wannabees feel about the issue of torture. Will they put us through a long and undulating, not to mention painful, roundabout debating whether or not “waterboarding” is torture?

Or will they finally demonstrate they have cajones and take an absolute position against both?

Or have they already?

Wouldn’t it be refreshing to hear clear, concise and irrefutable statements coming out against blatant, ongoing evil in our government? Better yet, wouldn’t it be wonderful to hear the “impeachment” word?

Comes back to that cajone thing ... Oh well, I can dream cant I?

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By Purple Girl, February 25, 2008 at 6:34 am Link to this comment

Give US a break this Charade has been insulting and criminal.
We can ge tan independent council for a sex scandal but not for Torutre, Treason, Profiteering, Racketeering and Crimes against Humanity.
The only way we are going to be able to regain Our Country is to Levy such Charges against Any and All who have betrayed our country, mankind and the very Planet we depend on to survive. Begin with Cheney, rumsfeld, Wolfie, Rice , rove and even the Stooge the propped Up W. (Ignorance is Not Bliss, it’s culpable). Then the ‘Great Experiment’ will return to it’s stature as the ‘Worlds Greatest Democracy’. Want to see others get their priorities straight fast. Let’s book Super Satdiums to local Ice arenas to Televise the Mass Trials. We could even have text and phone in voting - Just like Americna Idol, Decades of entertainment since Habius Corpus is Suspended for Enemy combatants. Start wiretapping and internaet use now so we can gather as much evidence against them and make their convictions A Real ‘Slam Dunk’

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By Allen, February 23, 2008 at 8:15 pm Link to this comment
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Oh yes, this is rich.  I am sure we can have full confidence that the administration’s handpicked AG will go full blast at this “review”.  In another lifetime.  My eyes have rolled so many times they are now out of their sockets.

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By weather, February 23, 2008 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment
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Please free us from the arrogance and dark manipulating deceit that is Israel.

A sordid link that could scare Stephen King.

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By TJ, February 23, 2008 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment
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Hopefully this will not end with the report by the Ethics Office.
The state bar association for each of the lawyers should also take a look at this for disciplinary investigation.  Subverting the law for political purposes.

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By Maani, February 23, 2008 at 6:47 pm Link to this comment

Village Elder:

“After a light instructive touch of waterboarding perhaps they might desire to confess their sins and be held accountable.  Just one of my fantasies…”

Why should it be a fantasy?  I believe that everyone in government - the Bush, Cheney, Rice, Gates, Mukasey, members of Congress, etc. - should be REQUIRED to go through, say, five minutes of waterboarding.  Only THEN should any of them have the right to suggest that it is not torture.

Peace.  (getting ever distant…)

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By dasm, February 23, 2008 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment
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“consider to be torture” ???  Japanese people were EXECUTED after WW11 because they waterboarded.  They were killed because they waterboarded.  What is it about this that Bush & Co. don’t understand??  WAterboarding = war crimes = execution.  The U.S. was totally behind this.  Now, suddenly, it’s okay?  I hope the families of the executed Japanese sue the S**t out of Bush et al.

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By VillageElder, February 23, 2008 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena,

For this crew it might be like throwing them in the briar patch.  It is the GOP (greedy old reverts). After a light instructive touch of waterboarding perhaps they might desire to confess their sins and be held accountable.  Just one of my fantasies…

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By PatrickHenry, February 23, 2008 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

Sort of like the Klan investigating itself for hate crimes.

I’m sure the past 7 years have placed alot of Regency university types in alot of positions to obfuscate the next democratic administration.

A huge housecleaning will be in order.

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By Maani, February 23, 2008 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

Outraged et al:

Are we surprised?  LOL.  Isn’t this similar to allowing various industries to “police themselves” instead of properly regulating them?  But hey - those industries have a vested interest in being honest about their self-assessments, don’t they?  And our government, and its various branches, have a vested interest in being honest about THEIR self-assessment, too, right?

I almost hate to ask this, but can this administration get any more arrogant and repugnant than it already is?  (Don’t answer that…LOL)

Peace.

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By DennisD, February 23, 2008 at 9:24 am Link to this comment
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This is almost as funny as having politicians “investigate” each other for corruption.

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By cyrena, February 23, 2008 at 3:29 am Link to this comment

Ah Outraged…I know, I know. We’re just being all rowdy and disrespectful. Lookin’ to start a riot somewhere…doesn’t much matter where.

Wanna join us?

If not, maybe we could help out with the investigation. Maybe John Yoo and some of the other government types could be our ‘subjects’  while we investigate/demonstrate the effects of this waterboarding. I’m thinking Johnnie Yoo didn’t do all of the appropriate data before he whipped up that memo. This way, it can be sort of a ‘review’ for him, and we’ll just add this new data in there, since the government guys are busy anyway, and don’t have time for this grunt work.

So yeah, that sounds like a good idea. We can get John Yoo and some of his memorandum writing colleagues from the Justice department, and we’ll try out the waterboarding, (on them) and then we’ll do the ‘fear up’ and then the sensory deprivation, and the sexual harassment/humiliation, and move on to the sleep and light deprivation, and then maybe follow that up with the dogs.

Then, when we’re done, (let me know if you can think of anything else…like the hooding or the electric shock if there’s time) we’ll check with them and ask them which of those techniques they thought was the most ‘effective’. Then we’ll put them in solitary confinement at 22 degrees below for a few months, while we compile the data.

There you go. The ‘investigation’ will be complete.

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By Outraged, February 22, 2008 at 11:36 pm Link to this comment

Hey…Cyrena and Purplewolf Nice too see ya, as always.

Really guys, I’m confused WHAT for the love of God do “you guys” (oh yeah, that’s WI speak for YOUSE GUYS) mean?  Youse guys sound like this is BS…I’m confused?  Do you mean the fox shouldn’t be in charge of the “hen house”?  And Cyrena…John Yoo is a “good guy” isn’t he..?!  I mean he works in the government (or did) and is important and wears “LIKE” good clothes an’ stuff.  Don’t do that…you only confuse the “issue”...are you guys “filthy liberals”?

Purplewolf, what do you mean by conflict of interest…no, you have it all wrong…these guys worked for the “GOVERNMENT”!

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By purplewolf, February 22, 2008 at 9:56 pm Link to this comment

ISN’T THIS A HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ?
Would you trust anything coming out of another investigation from the same group of incompetents that have been lying for the last seven years plus?

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By cyrena, February 22, 2008 at 8:19 pm Link to this comment

Well, I don’t see this amounting to anything.
Jarrett claims that there’s been an investigation going on for 3 years. Meantime, the CIA keeps torturing, and the guys who drew up all of the memorandums authorizing the torture, (like John Yoo) are gainfully employed in positions of academic authority, instead of disbarred or in jail. And that’s where he,  along with the people who told them to do it, all belong.

Now, is Jarrett’s investigation gonna accomplish that? Doesn’t sound like it from this.

I think they should all be at Gitmo. John Yoo, Jay S Bybee, Gonzo, the whole bunch…

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