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Scientist: HIV Vaccine at Square One

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Posted on Feb 15, 2008
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The human immunodeficiency virus is the virus that leads to AIDS.

Nobel Prize-winning biologist David Baltimore has told his peers that researchers are no closer to discovering an HIV vaccine after decades of study. He called for new approaches and said the challenge was difficult because “to control HIV immunologically the scientific community has to beat out nature, do something that nature, with its advantage of four billion years of evolution, has not been able to do.”

BBC:

HIV had evolved a way to protect itself from the human immune system, he said.

“This is a huge challenge because to control HIV immunologically the scientific community has to beat out nature, do something that nature, with its advantage of four billion years of evolution, has not been able to do,” Prof Baltimore said.

“I believe that HIV has found ways to totally fool the immune system.

“So we have to do one better than nature.”

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By BlueEagle, February 17 at 4:16 pm #

AIDS is big business, just like cancer, heart disease, etc. Do you really think “they” will allow some scientist to shut down their business. Ha!

Here are two depressing videos that tell another side of the story:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/277.html

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/268.html

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By Don Vito, February 17 at 2:29 pm #
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If you’re so goddamn smart, feel free to inject yourself (and Dougie while you’re at it) with the human immuno virus, and we’ll check back on your theory in a few years…

Case in point of how complex science is more dangerous than a loaded weapon when in the hands of idiots.

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By Paolo, February 15 at 6:59 pm #

Check out Duesberg.com if you want to find out how the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is almost certainly completely wrong.

The whole HIV/AIDS theory appears to be a gigantic fraud perpetrated by government-favored pharmaceutical companies in search of grant money. In other words, this is a classic example of the “government-business partnership” (aka mercantilism or fascism) in which hoaxes are perpetrated with the goal of making huge profits for companies that contribute nicely to political campaigns.

To argue that HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS,” you would have to explain: 1) Why many patients who never tested positive for HIV nonetheless developed AIDS, and 2) Why many patients who tested positive for HIV never developed AIDS. You might also want to add 3) Why do we call immune deficiency in Africa “AIDS,” when the symptomatology is completely different from “AIDS” in Europe and America?

Why do we get diagnoses of AIDS in Africa, where virtually no one is tested for HIV?

The whole sick medical-government system has invented a phony campaign aimed at fleecing taxpayers, all the while doing absolutely nothing for those who suffer from AIDS.

BTW, denying the HIV/AIDS hypothesis in no way means you are “anti-gay.” If anything, gays have been victimized more than anyone by the dishonesty of the government/pharmaceutical axis.

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By Douglas Chalmers, February 15 at 2:10 pm #

In the West, the medical establishment are still in denial about homeopathy and refuse to admit that it is an effective treatment never mind actually do any research with it. That prejudice persists because it is not possible for the drugs corporations which fund most reasearch and universities to either patent it or to make $billions out of it. In fact, there is a war being fought in the medical establishment over it.

Nevertheless, homeopathy which originated in Germany and is popular there and elsewhere in Europe has found a place in India over the past century and has found some acceptance in Africa because it is a relatively inexpensive method of treatment. Despite the UN’s Millenium Project goals, this positive healing modality is being utterly ignored as money-making imperatives are pursued instead.

One of the realities of illness is that one is unable to work and loss of income detrimentally affects one’s ability to afford health care. That also affects people in wealthy countries. What is more, the concept of staying healthy is still basically a form of denial and refusal to accept the possibility of experiencing an illness, especially in youth. This actually a form of fear.

Thus ignoring treating a range of stress-related issues or even acknowledging them leads to various functional disorders. Over time, they metamorphose into chronic conditions and gross pathologies. Most of that can be avoided by recognizing and treating early symptoms and stress states such as exhaustion, despair and anxiety at the outset.

Homeopathy is based on two things. One is that “like treats like” so a drug which produces certain symptoms will cure or alleviate similar symptoms in a sick person (or animal). The other is the method of producing medicines utilising an “infintesimal dose” by a manufacturing process of dilution and succussion which renders poisons safe to use but still effective in doses of less than 1 part per million.

Clinical trial, 1999: Central Council for Research in Homoeopathy… New Delhi, India.

OBJECTIVE: This study was aimed to evaluate the immuno-modulator role of homeopathic remedies in Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) infection. METHODOLOGY: A randomised double blind clinical trial was conducted to compare the effect of homeopathic remedies with placebo… conforming to Centres for Disease Control (CDC) stage II & III..... A six months study was performed… Assessment of progress was made by evaluation of CD+ve lymphocyte counts… the results were compared with the base line immune status…

RESULTS: In PGL, a statistically significant difference was observed in CD+ve T-lymphocyte counts between pre and post trial levels in verum group… CONCLUSION: The study suggests a possible role of homeopathic treatment in HIV infection in symptomatic phase, as evidenced by a statistically significant elevation of base line immune status… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10335412

Use of homeopathy for delaying progression of HIV disease - Bhave G. - Int Conf AIDS. 1998 http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/102231175.html

Homeopathy Enters the Mainstream “...on 30 April 2002, the Royal Homeopathic Hospital became a member of University College London Hospital. This marks a decisive change in attitude of the medical establishment towards homeopathy. But the scientific controversy remains…

The most recent controversy regarding homeopathy erupted around distinguished French research scientist, Dr. Jacques Benveniste, well-known for his discovery, in 1971, of PAF (Platelet Activating Factor) a mediator implicated in allergies and inflammations…

In 1984, Benveniste made another remarkable discovery: water is capable of carrying molecular information or biological messages. This “imprinting” is activated when a substance is dissolved in water and then diluted repeatedly until not a single molecule of the substance could remain...” http://www.i-sis.org.uk/water2.php

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By feetofclay, February 15 at 1:45 pm #
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But, we’ve perfected Viagra and hairplugs!

WTF!

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By GW=MCHammered, February 15 at 10:22 am #
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They teach us that the laws of physics cannot be broken. However in my Chemistry of Theology lab, every time we mixed one part christian to any part non-christian, our test always concluded the same ... with the complete annihilation of the latter by the prior. A direct violation of the laws of god.

Got the same result mixing highly charged political candidates and electroneutral voters in our Political Science lab. I suggest all scientists give up the absurd notion they can figure this out scientifically and pray to their congressman about it.

(just satire kids)

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