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The Ugly Side of SuperdelegatesPosted on Feb 14, 2008According to The New York Times and others, what was once an alarming possibility now appears likely: The Democratic nomination will probably be decided by superdelegates—those party bigwigs who exist to keep the will of the people in check. If that happens, expect to see the ugly side of politics out in the open. It’s already begun to surface. Many of those superdelegates are elected officials, and too many of them have received hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of campaign contributions from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. It’s one thing to dispatch a Michelle Obama or a Chelsea Clinton to lunch with a prospective supporter. Like baby kissing, we all expect that sort of thing. And it’s not unusual for politicians to throw cash each other’s way. After all, it’s a tried and tested way of joining the leadership of a party. But with John McCain already running for president, the Democrats will have to cope with a 24-hour news cycle chronicling their every desperate campaign maneuver, including cash for super support. And it’s only going to get worse. The last thing the party that lost a presidential election to electoral shenanigans and a Supreme Court needs is the image of cigar-chomping party elites overruling the will of the people, however they choose.
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By Conservative Yankee, February 15 at 2:42 pm # Once upon a time, this nation had a reputation with other world citizens of being able to call a spade a spade. now we step all over our respective politically correct dicks attempting to please everyone, but in the final analysis pleasing no one...including ourselves. If people can’t recognize a scam artist like Token-Obama who sells out poor people by doing business with a slum lord, and taking money from the same (although he’s getting less) corporate “lords” as hill-the-business-shill, there is no sense having an election. If we have to pick between a steaming pile of Dog Shit, or a messy load of recycled puke we have no business continuing as a country. Ties to Walmart, ties to Citigroup, ties to the Carlyle group and an endless procession of defense contractors make me believe that neither of these candidates are acceptable, and that my friends is how the Republicans will win yet another election. We have only two moderate supreme court justices (Stevens, and Souter both incidently appointed by Republicans) left, and two center-right justices (Ginsberg and Breyer) the rest, Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas are far right wing-nuts. Folks who say the Clintons are rough and tumble and can take on the repubs fail to see that each time they attempted concession they got Yalta-ed by the right.... and concession seem to be their only game.
By Conservative Yankee, February 16 at 5:36 am # Re: Re: unapologetic, Republican corporatismBy Gregorio, February 15 at 8:45 pm # “The Republicans will win in the fall not because either democrat is unacceptable to you for their corporate ties. No room for conceit here;” ME, or YOU has nothing to do with who wins elections. large groups of people who finally come out of their trance long enough to see reality, make the difference. People tend to come out of trances when trauma occurs, trauma like losing their homes, jobs, or place in society. Personalize it if you wish, (although you have no idea who or what I am) none of these candidates has the “stuff” to get us out of the whole WE dig for ourselves. (see first law of holes)
By Conservative Yankee, February 15 at 9:14 am # Party politics are putrid! I’m really surprised that no one commented about “Cousins v. Wigoda” the Supreme court case that declared “political parties are private entities” Some folks here seem to think that backing Democrats (no matter who they run) is a fine “loyal” thing to do. while others state that they need a candidate who shares their beliefs and values. There is a dangerous view out there that the Republicans are pissing in the wind, That they can not win under any circumstance. Forgetful voters must not remember election 1976 where Jerry Ford who pardoned Richard Nixon almost won the election. Then the “discredited Republicans” returned in 1978, only two years later, and captured the Senate, and then the White House in an unprecedented landslide in 1980, and again in 84 Folks; Since 1968, forty years ago, The Dim-o-crats have held the White House 12 years. The Re-thug-licans have been residents there for 28 years. Republicans have won 7 of the last 10 presidential elections, 4 of them in landslides. Since WW II incumbent Republicans have been chosen for a second term four times. The Democrats have received that confidence once. counting the Repubs out at this stage is not a good idea.
By GW=MCHammered, February 15 at 7:06 am # US DemocracyNo American leaders have the balls for it.
By kath cantarella, February 14 at 11:45 pm # It's time for the Clintons to start supportingIt’s time for the Dems to stand together and start squaring off against McCain and Huckabee. It’s not just the US people depending on you, it’s most of the world.
By samg, February 14 at 8:25 pm # i don’t see anything wrong with the superdelegates choosing the democratic presidential nominee if neither candidate has enough ordinary delegate votes to win. complete democracy doesn’t exist in this world. and, remember, for years most or all the delegates who chose a party’s presidential nominee were party pols and activists. i worry a lot more about candidates with a minority of the popular vote getting elected president, as george w. jerk did in 2000. no one’s lifted a finger to change that in eight years and it’s a helluva lot more important.
By Mark Hanson, February 14 at 7:57 pm # Obama pays superdelegatesIt’s been revealed by several news sources that Obama had been funneling 4 times amount of his campaign fund to the superdelegates who endorsed him, as compared to Clinton. Add Your Comment |
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