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McCain Wins in FloridaPosted on Jan 29, 2008
John McCain won the Republican primary in Florida on Tuesday with a decent lead over runner-up Mitt Romney. Rudy Giuliani, who bet it all on the Sunshine State, came in a distant third. Hillary Clinton stopped by to celebrate an inconsequential victory there with supporters. Florida was stripped of its delegates by the Democratic Party after it moved its primary to an earlier date, and the candidates promised not to campaign there.
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By PatrickHenry, January 30, 2008 at 10:18 pm #
The Europeans prefer Ron Paul.
Report thisBy P. T., January 30, 2008 at 7:19 pm #
I read a piece online in the Independent (UK) the other day that was anti-McCain. The author detested his militaristic approach to world affairs.
Report thisBy Maani, January 30, 2008 at 6:32 pm #
Don Vito:
First, I hardly spend “95%” of my time here; I spend a great deal of time on the computer since much of my ministry is done via email and websites, so I check in here a few times during the day. (I do not have a “flock” as such; I am an independent minister).
Second, I’m not sure to what you are referring when you talk about “name calling, bullying and a mix of other annoying behaviors.” I do not believe I have EVER called anyone HERE a “name” (calling McCain a moron doesn’t count…LOL). As for “bullying,” I admit that some of my posts are “aggressively” supportive of my current candidate of choice, but no moreso than most here. If you can cite examples of my name-calling, bullying, etc., I would have happy to address them.
As for “smugness,” again, I’m not sure to what you are referring. I do a great deal of research on the issues that concern me or that I discuss with others, and I see nothing “smug” in posting that research to support my feelings and claims.
re “setting the world straight,” that is neither my intention, nor even an achievable goal by anyone, given the situation it is in. I do try to “correct” those who provide opinions without any support whatsoever, and they are free to accept or reject the information I provide.
Re McCain, every person has good qualities and bad. McCain may well have both honor and principle (though I may disagree with some of those principles), but he also has qualities that are problematic if not troublesome re a potential presidency. If “moron” was too strong, I will retract it in favor of “intellectually challenged in some (important) areas.”
As for torture, neither you nor I can say whether either of us could have withstood it (though he was NOT tortured for 5 years; he was held captive for five years, and underwent very little torture, even by his own admission). Maybe we could, maybe we couldn’t.
As for Doug, I do agree with him on certaan things, particularly on the lopsided media treatment of Obama and Hillary (the former who gets a “free pass” much of the time while the latter is constantly lambasted). However, I have taken him to task for his (possibly dangerously) obsessive views re Israel.
I am sorry you feel so personally slighted or angry at my comments about McCain. And you have a much right to express that anger as I do to express my feelings and beliefs. In that regard, as the saying goes: “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Peace.
Report thisBy jatihoon, January 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm #
John McCain, remind me of great comedian, Charlie Chaplin. If you see Charlie Chaplin picture, you will notice not only Mcain looks like him but also talk like him. This is the greatest joke we are seeing being unfurled right before our eyes. So see it, and enjoy it, after all what are Politicians…...Actors and Jokers. Charle Chaplin last movie was before he died, ” KING IN NEW YORK”. McCain last Hurrah will be vote in ....leave it to your imagination.
Report thisBy Frostedflakes, January 30, 2008 at 2:37 pm #
Don Vito:
Being tortured doesn’t make you a credible politician. Because if so maybe we should check out Gitmo for some good candidates. Sorry, but John McCain is an idiot. And if you’ve been awake for the past six months you would have noticed that his own party wanted nothing to do with him. The only reason that he is the front-runner now is that the repugs are that bad. Profanity and anger can be a pretty mix,however it doesn’t make your opinion better than anyone else, and if TD causes you such distress don’t read it. I’m sure you won’t be missed.
Report thisBy Pacrat, January 30, 2008 at 10:30 am #
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Pleased that 9/11 Guliani is out of the republican race - the losingest of this bunch of losers? The winner in Florida is McCain?
They all pledge (silently or loudly, i.e. McCain) to continue the Bush policies that are destroying our Constitution or replacing it with a wierd form of evangelism. Also, keeping our American military in danger in Iraq and other countries based on lies and continuing deceit.
Good luck to all of us if another republican follows Bush in the House of Shame!
Report thisBy Oswald, January 30, 2008 at 8:21 am #
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From Europe’s point of view, it is great that McCain is ahead. McCain is the only Republican candidate who has emphasized the importance of transatlantic relations. The Atlantic Community piece which was published today (see: http://www.atlantic-community.org/index/articles/view/Republican_Candidates_on_Europe:_Huckabee,_McCain,_Giuliani_and_Romney) noted that:
“Huckabee claims Europe is (unintentionally) to blame for some of the US biggest terror threats, Romney is using an anti-European stance to further his campaign, Giuliani is turning away from Europe to focus on Asia, while McCain appears committed to revitalizing transatlantic relations.”
So while Europe would certainly prefer a Democratic to a Republican candidate, if they had to choose between the Republicans, McCain would definitely win the nomination!
Report thisBy P. T., January 30, 2008 at 6:36 am #
In a time of economic crisis, it is hard to see why someone with Romney’s background would be an appealing candidate. His investment firm had a history of corporate takeovers, firing workers, stripping assets, and then selling what was left.
Report thisBy G.Anderson, January 30, 2008 at 3:11 am #
I think Pat Buchanan said it best. Something to the effect of, if you look at what Mc Cain does, he’s always in your face, always aggressive always confronting…If he’s elected then we will attack Iran…
Mc Cain is power mad, you can see it in his face, now that he’s getting closer, the rush of all that power, it’s making his face light up.
There are lots of conservative people in the United States who will never change their views under any curcumstances. That’s why conservatives are so comfortable with the born agains, because conservatism itself, is like a religion, if you believe then there’s no turning back.
If Mc Cain is elected it will be George W. Bush all over again.
Report thisBy Maani, January 30, 2008 at 2:30 am #
Mike:
Little would I have guessed that you, of all people, would be able to comfort me. LOL. Still, I truly appreciate your comforting thoughts…
Peace.
Report thisBy Expat, January 30, 2008 at 2:21 am #
Look at the positive side: Independent voters like me who would have voted for McCain in 2000 wont touch him with a 10 meter pole today. I think the dems will do better against McCain than Romney. It looks like Giuliani is history (yee ha). Romney worries me the most because I think hes slick enough to pull it off. Really, this election will tell us if we really are through with republicans. Any way, this is only the beginning; next week will be telling. Anybody should be able to run against the republicans and win.
Report thisBy CJ, January 30, 2008 at 1:58 am #
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Now that McCain and Clinton are extremely likely nominees to represent respective parties: because big media chooses nominees. Media chose long ago to whom to grant extensive coverage: Clinton and McCain, despite feint toward Obama and Romney. (See Chomsky and Hermans Manufacturing Consent, on the topic of feints in news media.) One main excuse, hardly amounting to reason: Both seem safe enough, adequately concerned for national-security state; plus one is regarded as maverick, while the other would continue reign of previous occupant of highest office in the land, leader of (ostensibly) free world.
All that remains is to choose one or the other in November. It matters only marginally which one. Can media now move on? No, I hear media saying? What I thought.
Before any regard comment here as cynical, consider that no onebut for talking heads, of courseis so cynical as nominees, both of whom plan to further benefit have-a-whole-lot-alreadys at expense of never-had-much-in-first-places, albeit in slightly different free-market ways. Which, in combination with aforementioned excuses, is also excuse they were long ago anointed.
So much for change. Well, except for that to give to homeless persons outside 7-11s across national-security state. Those of us who go gracefullythanks to capitalist (real) godshould prepare to reach deeper for that change.
Report thisBy Don Vito, January 30, 2008 at 1:33 am #
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So let me get this straight: you claim to be some sort of religious minister, yet you spend what seems to be about 95% of your fucking time posting on this site, and about 95% of your posts involve name calling, bullying, and a mix of other annoying behaviors.
You’re a real man of god, huh? Do tell me how do you ever find the time to minister to your flock when you spend 95% of your time enlightening the unwashed masses at truthdig? It must be hard, all the demands placed upon you.
You and Dougie-boy scamper to these newly-posted articles like kittens to a dish of warm milk and breathlessly post your oh-so-worldly comments, laced with just the right tone of smugness, yet benevolence, satisfied that youve been able to set the world straight, yet again. What a grand achievement!
Critique McCain’s policies all you want, but he’s got more principle and honor in his left testicle than whats contained in your entire, whining, elitist, left-wing, socialism-loving body.
Yeah, I’m sure you could have withstood 5+ years of torture… Yeah, I’m sure you would have remained in captivity with your comrades when the enemy offered to let you go, right? RIGHT???
What a fucking joke… you, Dougie and all of truthdig.
Report thisBy Maani, January 30, 2008 at 12:47 am #
I’m not sure which is scarier: the fact that so many people are backing this war-mongering, Reaganomic moron, or that Giuliani (now thankfully out of the race) is throwing his support behind this war-mongering, Reaganomic moron.
Peace (?)
Report thisBy KYJurisDoctor, January 30, 2008 at 12:35 am #
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Let’s get rid of Mitt “I’ll flip flop on any issue” Romney.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/as-expected-here-mitt-ill-flip-flop-on.html#links
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