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Southern Black Voters Split Between Obama and ClintonPosted on Jan 18, 2008
The subject of race has gotten major—some would say excessive—play in recent Democratic debates, but judging from this New York Times report, we can expect more on this matter from Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in coming weeks. That’s because, as the paper put it, “If any election can prove that Southern blacks are not a monolithic voting bloc, it is this one.”
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By odlid, January 21, 2008 at 7:39 pm #
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Southern voters might want to consider whether Hillary is continuing to show bad judgment on security matters:
http://nightlight.typepad.com/nightlight/2006/10/the_immoral_mod.html
Report thisBy Sharon Ash, January 21, 2008 at 1:16 pm #
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Thomas Billis…that would be Madam President to you sir. No more hate in 2008. Go Hillary!
Report thisBy Thomas Billis, January 19, 2008 at 11:57 pm #
To answer jackpine:Yes Obama was singing to Hillary.Maybe you remember the song it was an old ballad:“Get Your Ass Out Of This Race And Take Your Honky Tonk Husband With You.“It is available on CD and soon will be part of an album called “White Bitch”.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, January 19, 2008 at 11:50 pm #
Not to detract from the racism and the sexism…but doesn’t that picture look they’re about to start singing a duet? What song would they sing together? Ebony and Ivory is too cliche…
I agree with Ms. Molloff, at least about the distraction from serious issues. This peripheral story line and the attacking back and forth is beginning to drive me crazy.
We’ve already balkanized the nation into Democrats and Republicans, must we break it down further yet? This is how “they” will conquer us, by first setting us at each other’s throats. Whether these candidates are witting or unwitting, they are part of the problem.
Report thisBy cyrena, January 19, 2008 at 11:29 pm #
So Gomerspile,
Your disclaimer is right on the mark, since this is obviously sexist and racist. More than that though, it would seem to spell your apparently very red-neck ignorance, not to mention calling attention to the fact that youre just a low-life pervert.
Seriously, how does Michelle Obamas appearance, (or your gutter-like interpretation of it) connect in anyway at all, to the content of this article? Do you see a photo of her anywhere here? I only see Hillary and Barak. Is there a MENTION of her in the piece?
Nope, not that I can see. Matter of fact, I read a lot of news and campaign stuff, and I rarely see any photos of her. So, one might have to assume that you must go LOOKING for such things. Pretty creepy if ya ask me.
And, while the average person wouldnt be likely to make such an association, one might wonder how YOU know exactly what a TRANNY HOOKER outside the Norfolk Naval Base looks like. Are you intimately familiar with them?
I ask because one ignorant enough to make that association to Mrs. Obama could surely be easily fooled by a REAL tranny hooker. Dont blame it on other folks if thats whats happen to you, and left you all traumatized. So, are you a victim of a Norfolk Base tranny hooker, or a victim of your own ignorance? Either way, youre definitely a lower form of life than the likes of Michelle Obama would ever be likely to notice, so youre observation in this matter is basically worthless.
And, when was she at the U of C, and which one? I must have missed her. Hillary was at a U of C here on Thursday, (I didnt bother to skip my own lecture to attend her presence). But, Id not heard of Mrs. Obama being at a U of C recently. Thats a long way from a spot outside the Norfolk Naval Base though.
Report thisBy william, January 19, 2008 at 2:18 pm #
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Like the taste of soap? That’s all they’re selling you. They have all been bought and sold by the same corps that own the repubs already. They always have been. Nothing is going to change. The worst is yet to come. When the best you can say is: “But don’t we want someone to make us feeeellll good about ourselves?” All you are asking for is a different face in the same suit to stick his/her finger up you ass. Good luck with that. Voting is the opiate of the sheeple.
Report thisBy troublesum, January 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm #
All the republican troglodytes seem to love Obama and Obama has been praising Reagan lately. Is this why so many Black leaders are supporting Clinton? The more you learn about Obama the less there is to like.
Report thisBy kath cantarella, January 19, 2008 at 7:44 am #
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Lots of voters are probably unaware of the positions of many candidates.
There are clear and concise wikipedia overviews of the political positons of each candidate which are good to pass on to any confused voters out there.
For some reason i can’t post the links here but
just google ‘wikipedia the political positions of [name of candidate]’
Good luck.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, January 19, 2008 at 3:02 am #
When it comes to running the country… #By Thomas Billis, January 18: ”...a little green hermaphrodite who can run this country well is fine by me.No I was not describing Dennis Kuccinich…”
Note that nice pic at the top of the page, though. So different from the manufactured one Truthdig posted in the previous HC/BO race relations-cum-politics article this week. It had Hillary and Obama staring/snarling at each other but was actually TWO pics juxtaposed. I hope this one is the genuine article…..
But #Gomerspile, January 18, you ARE “a sexist” and you ARE “a racist” too, uhh. Michelle Obama is most probably the nicest person. Pity that she has subsumed her soul to her husband’s political career merely for the sake of her perceived needs as a wife and mother.
Still, she will have an excellent chance of becoming a US senator in future (after divorcing BO!?!?) and may still become the first black president of the USA if not the first woman president. Now that would be something…..
#By Jeanine Molloff, January 18: ”...a smokescreen to prevent any substantive discussion…. power brokers from groups like the Council of Foreign Relations are sitting back and watching the fun ....a closer examination of Obama’s or Clinton’s Iraq plan is NOT being conducted…”
Yes, it would be interesting to surmise to what extent Condi Rice IS Barack Obama’s handler. Perhaps she does all the things his wife won’t…..??? I know that when she gets those foreign ministers from other countries on board one of her US Navy ships and brushes up against them in those cramped gangways, they never say no to her requests to sign up to the Joint Strike Fighter aircraft project, regardless of the cost, uhh.
Report thisBy Thomas Billis, January 18, 2008 at 7:02 pm #
When it comes to running the country race only matters racists and sex only matters to sexists.Listen tyo what someone says and if it makes sense vote for them if not vote for someone else.For me a little green hermaphrodite who can run this country well is fine by me.No I was not describing Dennis Kuccinich.
Report thisBy Jeanine Molloff, January 18, 2008 at 2:16 pm #
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All this rhetoric over the politics of race and gender are merely a smokescreen to prevent any substantive discussion of major issues. The elite power brokers from groups like the Council of Foreign Relations are sitting back and watching the fun as the majority implode all over themselves on these lesser issues. Notice how a closer examination of Obama’s or Clinton’s Iraq plan is NOT being conducted. The CFR minions are laughing all the way to the bank as they count the subsidized billions directed towards the likes of Halliburton (domestic concentration camps), Bechtel (water privatization), Ratheon (pain ray), etc.
Last night I attended a dinner featuring ex-Bush speech writer Michael Gerson. Gerson was affable, self-effacing and charming. He also was the front guy for CFR. A newly appointed member of the CFR thinktank, Gerson responded to questions, including those directed at the democratic field of candidates. Much talk was spent on transforming the shrillness of anger into ‘a more civilized debate.’ Translation: he wants us to play nice, even when we’ve been stripped of our civil rights, a free press and our livelihoods. Additionally, he waxed favorably about Barak Obama, citing that in the event of a democratic win, Obama would be his choice due to his ‘thoughtful prescence’and peaceful style. So, in other words, we should be polite when we’ve been raped of our rights. Gerson added that Obama had a more sensible view of international affairs, especially regarding the Iraq war and the overall ‘War on Terror,’ ...“which is one without end” (Gerson, 2008. Talk at the World Affairs Council of St. Louis).
What does this endorsement say about Obama? Is he too willing to be conciliatory with those who have unconstitutionally conducted a de facto dismantling of the Bill of Rights, while playing strains of Yankee Doodle Dandy. Regardless, these arguments and side bets on race and gender only distract from effectively dealing with the issues affecting all races and both genders, namely the plan for war without end, permanent loss of civil liberties to be replaced with a police state, moronic talking heads perfectly blow dried instead of journalism, trade policy which benefits people and not merely corporations and a sensible energy policy which will enable us to ...save the planet. I fear that candidates like Obama who is truly inspiring and talented will be used to pacify our rage and deny us the justice we must demand. Beware Trojan horses in pinstripes.
Jeanine Molloff
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