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Obama WinsPosted on Jan 3, 2008
Barack Obama is the runaway winner of the Iowa caucuses. What began as a virtual tie between the major candidates on election night quickly turned into a decisive victory for Obama. Hillary Clinton, who has frequently touted her electability, came in a close third behind John Edwards.
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By cyrena, January 3, 2008 at 11:52 pm Link to this comment
Well DB, if you’re still reading AP Polls and ABC polls, sounds like it might be YOU that needs to lay off the crack.
Did you understand the first couple of words in the article. One of them is RUNAWAY.
I’m so sorry for you DB, but it’s not over yet. This is just the beginning.
And, if the worst nightmare of your life actually comes to pass, (a democrate win in the general election, and…HEAVEN FORBID..A BLACK ONE???) I promise to set you up on your own little island. Then you can get away from it all.
How does Gitmo sound?
And really, you should start reading more reliable media. Quote your sources junior. It’ll save you so much embarrassment.
Report thisBy mackTN, January 3, 2008 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment
This is a strange phenom, to be sure. And contrary to conventional suspicions, the Obama Republicans are not double agents. When I was supporting Obama, the volunteers and staffers were indeed mostly Republican—“socially liberal, fiscally conservative.” They feel stigmatized as republicans since Bush has been in office and embarassed by the religious right and intolerant trends in that party.
So they have latched onto Obama. And I have long ago unlatched from him, sensing that he may actually be too conservative for me…and for other reasons. It does bother me that Republicans find him such an attractive candidate. But I recall who started this conservative Democrat trend—Bill Clinton! To defeat Bush the Father, he moved the Democratic Party center, casting himself as socially liberal/fiscally conservative. To ward off any attempts to brand him as liberal, he allowed Jesse Jackson only a few minutes to talk at the Dem Nominating Convention, dissed Sister Souljah, and abolished welfare (forgetting to provide these people help finding jobs—a big mistake that he admits). And of course he threw his nominee for AG Lani Guinier under the bus when Republicans began taunting her as the quota queen.
I do like more and more what John Edwards is talking about. The biggest threat to life as we know it comes not from OBL but from Corporate Honchos whose recruitment of undocumented workers is a throwback to imperialism and slavery. The rise of the Corporatocracy creates a shadow government that craves unregulated labor and workplaces, all profits no benefits.
Enron did more damage to this country and destroyed more lives than 911 terrorists ever did. And who is this country in Iraq anyway but an Enron, wiping out peoples and obstacles in quest of our National Interests (which are profits that will make the chosen few richer than they ever dreamed).
Edwards has nailed that problem, he doesn’t back off of it, and he’s the only one to publicly damn it. Obama won’t tackle it—he’ll preserve it (health care for example).
Report thisBy driving bear, January 3, 2008 at 11:11 pm Link to this comment
Cyrena dear lay off the crack
with 100% of precincts reporting the actual vote totals
Democrats
Obama 940
Edwards 744
Hillary 737
Richardson 53
Biden 23
Dodd 1
So as even you should be able to see the difference between the winner Obama and 3rd place Clinton is only 203 votes
the source of the above is ABC and the AP
Report thisBy cyrena, January 3, 2008 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment
Well Driving Bear,
Just an update on US politics. The Iowa Caucus (as well as the NH caucas) not to mention the rest of the 48 states who hold preliminary elections, are not INTENDED to settle anything, for the Democrats or any other political party.
The way things are set up in our country, is that we have general elections, and THAT settles things for the entire populace. (the past 2 general elections are obviously an exception to that, since we didnt get who we voted for). So, thats the way it works here in the U.S.A.
Still, contrary to your statement, this DID settle one thing for the democrats. It settled that the democrats of Iowa PREFERRED Barack Obama over all of the other democratic candidates. It SETTLED THAT!!
Might I also add that (as usual) your numbers are jacked up? Here is the latest breakdown, and Ive been watching it all night, so Ive watched as its changed. I see more than 200 votes between Barak and John Edwards, though there may only have been 200 votes separating John Edwards from Hillary Clinton, who came in THIRD with the people of Iowa. I think THAT much is settled, and now well move right along to the next step.
Im not the LEAST bit surprised at your reaction. And hopefully, the repugs are now soiling their entire wardrobes. No doubt they had counted on the Democratic Repug, to win. (that would be Hillary). Theyve been planning on her as their backup, in case they lose in November. Hillary would be perfectly acceptable to the neoconners, and this might just have them a bit shook up.
I love it!!
Iowa Democratic Caucus
10:10 PM EST
Precincts Reporting: 1686/1781
Obama: 37.36%
Edwards: 29.97%
Clinton: 29.45%
Richardson: 2.14%
Biden: 0.93%
Uncommitted 0.12%
Dodd: 0.02%
http://www.truthout.org/Election2008.shtml
Report thisBy Poodle Pop, January 3, 2008 at 9:36 pm Link to this comment
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Barak Obama’s clear victory in the Iowa Caucuses is a great day for America. When a state that is 97% white votes decisively for a African American candidate for President that is important news. This story will travel around the world and will show everyone that the many Americans are voting for change from the miserable Bush years.
Report thisBy Bill, January 3, 2008 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment
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The 200 difference between Obama and Clinton is for DELEGATES, not votes. As you can see, there are only about 2500 “votes” listed, while more than 200,000 voters actually participated. This is a result of the caucus system. If you multiply the percentages by 200,000, you end up with about an 18,000 vote difference Not necessarily a valid number, but certainly more indicative of the Obama romp than the “200 votes” you claim.
Report thisBy echeola, January 3, 2008 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment
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200 State delegates which are determined in a similar way that congressional seats are given based on population in a precinct. It is more likely to be closer to 9% of the total number of people who caucused for a Democrat 220,000. Something like 19,800. To be honest it would probably be lower.
Having said that, this was an incredible win for Obama in IA. I went there to canvas for the senator and was struck by the incredible knowledge of the issues on the ground by the average joe. The first time I went I met a little old lady who told me that when she had heard about Barack, she didn’t even know how to pronounce his name, but now she was going to go out on a very cold night and stand up in a room of her friends and neighbors and say she supported him.
This man moves people. His speech tonight was one of the best political speeches I have ever heard. Look for the polls tomorrow for NH. I think he has a very good chance of beating Hillary in NH and NV. Then look for him to sweep SC. I mean 30,000 showed up to hear what he had to say.
For the first time in a great while I am hopeful for the future of our country. What ever I have to give to Barack Obama, I’ll give. Time, money, and my support. I plan on helping deliver my home state of WI to him in the primary and the general election.
Report thisBy gray, January 3, 2008 at 8:09 pm Link to this comment
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All of the top Dems are running on the vague message of “change”. What really matters now is who is the most believable.
Report thisBy driving bear, January 3, 2008 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment
I just check the actual vote totals and for the democrats and the difference from Obama win to Hillary 3rd place showing is less than 200 votes. ( with 97% of the votes in)
So it looks like the GOP will not have to attack the democratic candidates the democrats will attack each other.
Report thisBy KYJurisDoctor, January 3, 2008 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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I predicted ALL the winners!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/just-as-i-predicted-obama-wins-iowa.html#links
Report thisBy loveinatub, January 3, 2008 at 7:27 pm Link to this comment
And while I’m happy that Hillary came in second (I sure hope she falls off the map in New Hampshire and eventually drops out of the race) Obama is nothing to get terribly excited about.
Kucinich, I’m still voting for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report thisBy bg1, January 3, 2008 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment
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How many Republicans registered as Dems and voted for Obama to prevent a Democratic presidency? A number of Republicans were reported to have done this.
Report thisBy cyrena, January 3, 2008 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
Richardson Reccomends
Obama to Supporters
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010308S.shtml
Now, I don’t know how important Iowa is, but I say…
YEAH!!!
So Tony…things are moving along, eh?
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