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Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?Posted on Dec 28, 2007
As Benazir Bhutto’s body was laid to rest Friday, the mystery about her murder remained unresolved, and outbursts of violence rippled throughout Pakistan in reaction to her death. Some members of Bhutto’s party, the Pakistan People’s Party, cited security lapses and insisted that she was killed by gunshots as she waved from the sunroof of her armored vehicle, while an official of President Pervez Musharraf’s government claimed Bhutto sustained a fatal wound when she struck her head in ducking into the car when shots rang out as she left the Rawalpindi rally. Of course, al-Qaida is on the government’s short list of suspects in the assassination of the 54-year-old former prime minister.
More links: Check out Al Jazeera’s timeline of Bhutto’s political career here. Conspiracy theories abound—Time takes a look in this article. According to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Bhutto sent him an e-mail in late October expressing her security concerns and pointing to President Musharraf as the cause of her (then hypothetical) death. Blitzer said he had an agreement with Bhutto that the e-mail would be made public only if she was killed. Click here to read Telegraph columnist Con Coughlin’s piece on why Bhutto’s death constitutes a “victory for Islamic hardliners.” Click here to read Newsweek Senior Editor (and recent Bhutto interviewer) Lally Weymouth’s discussion about Bhutto’s legacy. Does Bhutto’s demise mean the end for Musharraf’s hold on power in Pakistan? Forbes’ Ruth David thinks that might well be the case. Sen. Hillary Clinton has called for an independent international investigation into the circumstances surrounding Bhutto’s death. According to this Jerusalem Post article, al-Qaida has taken responsibility for Bhutto’s death in an as-yet-unverified report. Pakistani newspaper Dawn printed this Op-Ed piece Friday, simply stating that Bhutto “died because the state proved inadequate in protecting her.” Read another Pakistani report, from The News, about how the country could be facing “the worst crisis in history” in the wake of Bhutto’s death. Plus, check out the many additional links following the article. Previous item: U.S. Candidates React to Bhutto Assassination Next item: Obama Wants to Go Live Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
By Douglas Chalmers, January 2 at 9:49 am #
By cyrena, January 1: “Re: No bullet shot wounds on her body.... A. Kohar - “...this is a bit misleading, or actually…more than a bit. It would appear that the only way to know this..... would have been to perform an autopsy...”
Not at all, cyrena. It would have been obvious that there were wounds and bullet and shrapnel wounds are not necessarily indistinguishable.
Of course, “no bullet would have been found” until an autopsy had been performed, though.
The last thing the distraught family would have wanted was for the very people they hold responsible to then cart her body off to be hacked up in an autopsy, uhh!
But, transposing your words from another topic:-
Report thisCyrena, haven’t you figured out yet, that AK has nothing better to do with his time than try to find tiny little things, with his petty little mind, that don’t matter a whit to anyone?
So cyrena, consider the source when you get this kind of petty bullshit....
By Conservative Yankee, January 2 at 5:53 am #
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The US government lies (as it has done since at least John Adam’s presidency) and this is Israel’s fault?
This “moral” Nation embraced slavery, Piracy and theft at it’s beginning. How can that be blamed on Israel?
We stole the land from the Native people, the French, the Dutch, and the Spanish, often doing so by lie and deceit. How can that be blamed on Israel?
We made treaties which we broke unilaterally before the ink was dry....obviously Israel’s fault.
The government gave the land to Ranchers, then stole it from them to give it to the railroads, while allowing the railroads to use private armies to rout lawful citizens from their property. In Israel’s name no doubt.
After the southern states lost the “war of aggression” The government promised “reconstruction,” then stood idle while northern thugs ransacked the south and stole everything which wasn’t nailed down.
Bet they pawned it to Israel.
Then for over 100 years they did nothing as former slaves and their children were segregated, burned off their land, and lynched.
It is time re rewrote our history books so that the (non-existing before 1947) State of Israel gets credit for making us a nation of perjurers.
Report thisBy cyrena, January 2 at 4:11 am #
Brian,
I have to sadly say that you’ve pretty much summed it up.
I don’t know what it means any longer, but I have a gut instinct that it’s like a really dirty word.
I consider escape, but where would I go, always worrying that they’d find out I was an American?
Sad times eh?
Report thisBy cyrena, January 1 at 4:52 pm #
A. Kohar.
I think this is a bit misleading, or actually…more than a bit. It would appear that the only way to know this, (re bullet wounds) would have been to perform an autopsy, and that was not done. Also, the issuance of this medical report was initially accompanied by a detailed explanation by the medical examiner (physician/attorney) who DID have some ‘issues’ with it. And yes, he did say that no BULLET had been found, but he made it clear that without an autopsy, there was no way to be certain.
And no, I don’t think it’s going to distract attention to find out who killed her, just like we have to find out who REALLY perpetrated 9/11. Keeping these things under wraps to protect political operatives is exactly why we have this trouble to begin with.
The TRUTH settles many things, even when it’s ugly. It might finally be time to get to it, and apparently, that’s what’s been decided. It would appear they’ve now accepted help with the investigation from the international community.
Time to stop sweeping stuff under the rug. After a while, it all blows up, and we see it in motion.
A Tragedy Born of Military Despotism and Anarchy
By Tariq Ali
The Guardian UK
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122907D.shtml
Report thisBy Brian Howard, January 1 at 8:30 am #
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I don’t speculate who is responsible for Bhutto’s assassination, but her passing has brought with it a realisation that I have simply lost all faith in the ability of our country to convey to us, the voters, what the truth about anything really is.
I have come to realise, with some distress, that I no longer trust my country, I currently suspect my own country for every crime committed from which it may extract some benefit, and it is this revelation which has made up my mind for me that Israel, the nation from which we appear to have caught this disease of lies and deceipt, is no longer entitled to my personal support or sympathy - this realisation, brought about by the death of Bhutto, is nothing short of a serious culture shock for me for I have suddenly come to realise that USA has lost it’s identity and has morphed into the second state of Israel, a nation which worships deceipt and manipulative lying rather than the trustworthines of respectibility and moral fibre of honesty.
What does it really mean to call yourself “American” these days?
Brian
Report thisBy Brian Howard, January 1 at 8:13 am #
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Sure the Romans did, but don’t scoff at the idea, after all, their civilisation, from cradle to grave, lasted almost a thousand years, ours is already dead in the water and we’ve barely made it past a couple of centuries!
Report thisBy A Khokar, January 1 at 6:57 am #
While Bhutto was leaving the compound in a slow moving jeep and the crowed was allowed to be drawn in too close; (a worst scenario for a PPP security men that it went out of their hands). It is seen that apparently a young man, wearing a dark glasses with a pistol, who is seen just next to tail end of jeep; fired number of shots aiming at Bhutto. The sun roof hatch was also having a set of armour plates raised around it. The killer although is seen too close to the tail end of jeep but with the armour plates around the sunroof hatch that he had to aim at an high angle i.e. firing above the shoulder and head level, that killer fired; it can’t be said that it was a sure kill scenario.
It is quite possible that the killer even at this point blank gun shot range plus his state of mind that he could have been; must have missed her altogether. Medical report also reveals that there were no bullet shot wounds on her body.
(Ref: liveleak.com)
Bhutto- Medical Report:
Report thishttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/articles/bh utto_medicalreport_010108.html?sid=ST2007123102506
By A Khokar, January 1 at 6:26 am #
In the light of Medical Report issued by Rawalpindi General Hospital, signed by seven Surgeons who treated her is very clear and beyond any ambiguity that she died of her skull injury which is apparently not a bullet wound.
Report thisDiscussion on the cause of her death and other mechanic involved in her death with in her vehicle or for that matter whether bullets fired at her hit her or not; are use less exercise and waste of time and energy. It only distracts our attention to chase the actual culprits; the gangues who killed her.
By Conservative Yankee, December 31, 2007 at 4:26 pm #
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By Maani, December 31 at 3:14 pm #
1963 redux?
An assassination in a third world sink-hole where murder is just a way of cleansing the neighborhood of people who do not think like you....
Yeah, sounds about like Dallas
Report thisBy Maani, December 31, 2007 at 3:14 pm #
Bhutto’s assassination is now being compared - in the mainstream press, no less - to that of JFK, a comparison one doesn’t hear that often. Consider: open car, apparently three shots, person next to her injured, initial “lone” assassin theory, mishandling of body and autopsy, cleaning up of evidence before a proper investigation...the list goes on.
1963 redux?
Peace. (or some facsimile thereof...)
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, December 31, 2007 at 1:42 pm #
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“According to this Jerusalem Post article, al-Qaida has taken responsibility for Bhutto’s death”
A totally unbiased source....
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 31, 2007 at 8:59 am #
So yes, it DOES sound like she’s not mistaken
By cyrena, December 31: “So yes, it DOES sound like she’s not mistaken in what she’s saying. Great minds think alike, eh? (don’t tell CY I said that, he already thinks I’m a wanna-be know-it-all-twit)...”
Notty, notty, ha ha! Happy New Year for 1.1.2008
Can you imagine the young BB? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-o7ZR0DwS0
Report thisBy cyrena, December 31, 2007 at 8:11 am #
• But, what is more, cyrena, at the beginning at 42sec, BB says that she “could be attacked by.... Hamsa Bin Laden, the son of Osama Bin Laden”. That is possibly to say that OBL has been replaced by his son.
THANKS Douglas!!! I was really hoping somebody could answer this very quickly. You really delivered. And yes…I noted the same thing in my post, (you’re right I did it on two threads, just because I found it so…well, what ca I say?
I noticed the same thing, about the mention of Hasma bin Laden, and I even got his name right. (but that’s only because I already knew that was one of his son’s names). Even managed to get the Omar part of it right. I guess I must be moving up in the world.
So yes, it DOES sound like she’s not mistaken in what she’s saying. Great minds think alike, eh? (don’t tell CY I said that, he already thinks I’m a wanna-be know-it-all-twit).
OK, thanks for the link. I’m gonna check it out now.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 31, 2007 at 7:00 am #
Can an Arabic speaker make out the name she is providing here?
By cyrena, December 31: “David Frost Interview with Benazir Bhutto - NOR does David Frost even react. Not a peep from him....”
I notice that you have posted this in 2 topics, so I have obliged likewise.......
Well, I’m not an Arabic speaker but she clearly said “Omar Sheikh” who you can find out about easily on the net.
Check it at about 2min 20sec on this more specific clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uLdmct8_E&feature =related
But, what is more, cyrena, at the beginning at 42sec, BB says that she “could be attacked by.... Hamsa Bin Laden, the son of Osama Bin Laden”. That is possibly to say that OBL has been replaced by his son.
It certainly indicates that she wasn’t in the least mistaken in what she was saying.
Report thisBy cyrena, December 31, 2007 at 3:56 am #
Paolo,
You’re right…it’s either gone beyond weird, or I’m just really getting to be a hardened conspiracy theorist.
David Frost Interview with Benazir Bhutto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLItJMVNleY
Can an Arabic speaker make out the name she is providing here? I can’t, at least not enough to spell it correctly. Sounds like maybe Omar as a first name, but I could be wrong, and I definitely can’t come close on the last name. Who can help us out on this one?
Meantime, did you notice how she named one of UBL’s son’s as a possible suspect earlier on, before she got to the part about him being murdered? Nope, she didn’t seem confused or mistaken.
Here’s what seems even stranger to me –now- after viewing the video that you posted on the interview with David Frost and Benazir Bhutto.
Mike Malloy made a real point of saying how and when his producer had come by this tape, and how not ONE SINGLE US media outlet had said a single peep about it. And how, they couldn’t possibly have MISSED it, if HIS producer had found it.
Well, right about that SAME TIME, (because I was up when it came across the feed) up pops the piece on bin Laden’s alleged new audio tape. Well, that just sort of knocked me right off my chair. I was like, where did THIS come from?
Then it goes on to say that it’s the 5th time this year, after a long silence, beginning back in September. Well, I remember the VIDEO, (with the fake Osama) but I don’t remember hearing or reading about any more since then. I don’t get it.
Anyway, if you haven’t seen this one yet, (though now, it’s on Time Mag’s site as well as a couple of others) here’s the link from when it popped up nearly 24 hours ago… (and it’s got that same old photo that we’ve seen of him for the past decade. (not the fake guy) The photo wasn’t in the story yesterday morning.
You’re right. It’s just way beyond weird now.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2 007/12/30/AR2007123000183.html
And then there’s this too. But, I think I read a similar piece on the NYT yesterday morning. The story keeps changing. I’m confused.
Pakistan Government Skips Autopsy, Shifts Story on How Bhutto Died
By Saeed Shah and Warren P. Strobel
McClatchy Newspapers
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122907Z.shtml
Report thisBy cyrena, December 31, 2007 at 2:56 am #
Paolo,
In all sincerity, I’ve been thinking that OBL has been dead for at least 4 years, if not longer.
One of the ‘kinda sorta’ things that strenghtened my ‘instinct’, (since I certainly had nothing to prove it) was from one of Dahr Jamail’s MidEast Dispatches, (which I still subscribe to via email by the way, and they’re free if you want to check them out).
Anyway, he was one of the few I guess we could call ‘independant journalists’ over there kind of early on, and it was the ONLY place, at least for a long time, where I could find any REAL news. (I don’t think I could hook-up to the English Al-Jezzera at the time).
Anyway, in one of his many reports, and though various local sources, he had said that a young kid, who had apparently been to the ‘area’ (wherever it was) was reporting that the “Sheik” was ‘gravely ill’.
So, I just assumed that he may have died from his already well documented kidney problems. Based on several well resourced books, he’s always been either sickly, or at least a hypochondriac. And of course the ‘rumor’ has been for years, that he had checked into an American hospital (I think the UAE, but I could be wrong) on 9/10/2001.
Well, I don’t know how verifiable that is, since it’s part of the 9/11 story. Still, we didn’t hear from him for all of that time, and then they came up with that video a few months back, that we KNOW was NOT him.
So now they’ve got a new ‘audio’ and for some reason, I guess I just don’t believe that either. It’s too hard to believe any of it, now that I’m 99.9% convinced that he didn’t do 9/11. Or, he sure didn’t do it the way the liars are telling us it happened.
Anyway, I’ll check out the video. It’ll be the first time I’ve heard that he was murdered. But, I’ll believe just about anything now, as long as it doesn’t come from ANY government source, or US media.
Yep. It’s BEEN weird.
Report thisBy Paolo, December 30, 2007 at 7:52 pm #
The Sad Thing about our current state of affairs is that I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there was US involvement in Bhutto’s assassination. After all, the administration had no qualms about lying us into the war in Iraq, no qualms about lying about Pat Tillman, no qualms about lying about Jessica Lynch. Why should they not also lie about Bhutto’s assassination?
The US government has zero credibility at this point.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 30, 2007 at 10:40 am #
You’re too kind.......
By Blackspeare, December 30: “You are a f#@$ing idiot, uhh!”
Up the volume! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVsCe5-i7KA&feature =related
Don’t forget to check the “Black Magic Cure” and the “Maula Jaat” series....
Report thisBy Blackspeare, December 30, 2007 at 9:51 am #
“You are a f#@$ing idiot, uhh!”
You’re too kind, but I was happy to see I got a rise out of you! And by the way, I still agree with you.
Report thisBy Paolo, December 30, 2007 at 9:38 am #
An interesting sidelight on the Benazir Bhutto assassination is her interview with David Frost on Al-Jazeera (English Version) in November, in which she casually mentions that Osama Bin Laden had been murdered. Check it out.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=videos
Oddly, David Frost didn’t follow up on this rather stunning comment. I’m not aware of any follow up or retraction from Bhutto between the time of the interview and her assassination. I can’t draw any conclusion from this comment other than to say she was either confused (doesn’t seem like it), or she knew a lot of stuff we aren’t supposed to know. Could this lead to the real reason she was offed?
If Bin Laden has been killed, wouldn’t that be celebrated on Fox News as a great victory for the heroic Republican Neoconservative leadership? Or, is it better for those heroes to keep the Bin Laden myth alive as a convenient Bete Noir?
It gets weird, folks.
Report thisBy Pacrat, December 30, 2007 at 9:25 am #
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Was she assassinated? Was she killed? Was her death an accident? Out of these questions will come a story soon that will belie any factual evidence - so let’s just wait for the spinning to stop.
Was she a great woman? Yes! Was she a great leader when she was president? No! Would she be a great leader this third time around? Who knows? I think so! Anyone would be better than Musharaf!
But her husband or her son to replace her? A definite step backward and a victory for Musharaf!
US butt out! Let Pakistan deal with its own problems - and then react instead of trying to decide who should be the president. We don’t have a great track record in that regard. Look what happened to one of our choices - Hussein! And another choice, Musharaf!
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 30, 2007 at 9:20 am #
Transposing your garbage from the “US Candidates React to Bhutto Assasination” topic.....
By Blackspeare, December 29: “In the Byzantine world that Pakistan is, assassination is an age old political expediency. Once the dust settles things will get back to “normal” and Musharaff and his minions will secure their rule and there is no need to worry about the “bomb.” A strongman rule is needed in Pakistan at the present time and Musharaff is it with charisma, stature, and a great haircut...”
Frankly, I don’t give a damn if you agree with me or not, Blackspeare. You are just as happy to start an unwinnable nuclear war as GWB. This is not the 18th or 19th century colonial British empire and Pakistan is a nuclear power, not a Byzantine state. You are a f#@$ing idiot, uhh!
Report thisBy Blackspeare, December 30, 2007 at 7:47 am #
Douglas Chalmers…
You are absolutely correct----the US loves to deal with military dictatorships. From South and Central America to the Middle East to the Far East. Military regimes tend to be stable and consistent, don’t change regimes very often, and make good trading partners. It efficient economic capitalism at work. The US government gives taxes in the form financial aid to these regimes and they in turn use that money to buy more arms and some goods from the US. In a sense its redistribution of wealth from workers to industry!
Report thisBy Greg Zaller, December 30, 2007 at 7:40 am #
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She didn’t have to stand up in an unsecure area known to have assassins on the ready. Why she did is the question.
This is silliness to think that someone can bring democracy when the foundation isn’t there. The people are desperate but democracy is built on education and this will take hard work to accomplish first.
Report thisBy Sharon Ash, December 30, 2007 at 6:24 am #
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I don’t know who killed Bhutto, but I do know who put her in the position to regain power which ultimately led to her death. Condie Rice brokered for more than a year for Bhutto’s return. Once that was accomplished, our media bolstered the return of Bhutto and put her back in the limelight. It’s just another example of my country meddling in the business of another country in the Middle East and with more disastrous results. If we would put half as much time and money into solving our oil addiction problem as we do in trying to control the world’s oil supply, we could get our nose out of the business of those countries in the Middle East and every one’s life would be better for it. Big ‘if’, isn’t it?
Report thisBy dihey, December 30, 2007 at 5:07 am #
It has been reported that Ms. Butto has anointed a family member as the next leader of the PPP. Is than not the same as what the Roman Emperors did?
Report thisBy ocjim, December 29, 2007 at 9:10 pm #
Syed Saleem Shahzad, the Asia Times Pakistan bureau chief says:
KARACHI - ”We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat mujahideen.” These were the words of al-Qaeda’s top commander for Afghanistan operations and spokesperson Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, immediately after the attack that claimed the life of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto on Thursday (December 27).
This would make sense since Mushareff tends to lose from her assassination.
We should beware of Al Qaeda’s feeling of entitlement for Islamic nuclear weapons, namely Pakistan’s. A lot of Pakistani people are friendly to Osama bin Laden’s goals and philosophy: in Mushareff’s army, scientists working nuclear facilities, etc.
Report thisBy HUSNABANU BHATTI, December 29, 2007 at 4:09 pm #
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TODAY MORNING I SAW THAT THE PERSON ON THE NEWS SAID TO REMOVE THE BODY OF BENAZIR BHUTTO FRM THE GRAVEYARD TO DO POST MORTEM IS HE MAD THIS IS NOT ALLOWED IN ISLAM THAT WHY HE SAID THAT.PLEASE SEE THAT THIS DOE NOT HAPPEN IT WILL NOT BE GOOD AS SHE IS A MUSLIM.
THANK YOU!!!
Report thisBy Mojogoober, December 29, 2007 at 3:06 pm #
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Check out Robert Fisk:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article3291600.ece
So let’s run through this logic in the way that Inspector Ian Blair might have done in his policeman’s notebook before he became the top cop in London.
Question: Who forced Benazir Bhutto to stay in London and tried to prevent her return to Pakistan? Answer: General Musharraf.
Question: Who ordered the arrest of thousands of Benazir’s supporters this month? Answer: General Musharraf.
Question: Who placed Benazir under temporary house arrest this month? Answer: General Musharraf.
Question: Who declared martial law this month? Answer General Musharraf.
Question: who killed Benazir Bhutto?
Er. Yes. Well quite.
You see the problem? Yesterday, our television warriors informed us the PPP members shouting that Musharraf was a “murderer” were complaining he had not provided sufficient security for Benazir. Wrong. They were shouting this because they believe he killed her.
Report thisBy Ahmed, December 29, 2007 at 2:11 pm #
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we r nothing wid out pakistan ,
Report thisbinazer sicrified for pakistan ,
brothers and sisters let we also do something for our nation , dont sleep PLZ for GOT sake wakeup now ,
she started we will complate her mission ,
lets remove Mushraf ,if he ll not leave any one ,
then dont cry
By Ahmed, December 29, 2007 at 2:04 pm #
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who is killer of justec ?
Report thiswho kadnap law and laweyr ?
who bannd news and jernolests ?
that person killed banzair butho .
parvaz musharaf and chudhri parvaz allahi did her murrder , people r not kidds we know all , now time come for revolotion , thay will see there end like , past presdent Zai ul haq ,,, how he died ,, no one get hiz boddy ,,, there is GOD seening alls ,
By Douglas Chalmers, December 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm #
History is the Process by Which the Dead Bury the Living
By G.Anderson, December 29: “Like many American’s I have been confused about what is happening in Pakistan. I did not know what Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan Peoples Party stood for, and I so I went to it’s web site and read a few of Ms. Bhutto’s speaches....” http://www.ppp.org.pk/mbb/speeches/speeche85.html
Quote Benazir Bhutto: “Under General Musharraf, the military intelligence agencies have received over ten billion dollars in unaccountable assistance from the U.S. government.... Four times in history, Washington has supported military dictatorship in Pakistan...”
The main point is not that Ms. Bhutto “represented a very real threat to the military Dictatorship” but that she was NOT a US puppet and so NOT an issue for the Islamic fundamentalists for that reason despite it being commonly touted as the main cause of their supposed reactionary behaviour.
In other words, Musharraf’s military regime was behind most if not all of the riots and bombings. It was in their interest to foment turmoil as a reason to maintain their effective rule if not perpetual actual martial law. And the courts were basically on their side although appearing to act independently.
Thus a “military backed regime” creates the very extremism the USA supposedly wishes to avoid. In the end, a “controlled dictatorship” ends in failure as it is either overthrown by the people (as in Iran) or it becomes intolerable to its foreign masters and is invaded (as with Iraq).
Sadly, obviously this is a preferred course of foreign policy for the USA. Outright invasion (Korea, 1950) gave way to managed diplomacy through the installation and/or support of puppet regimes (Vietnam, Philippines, etc) despite their bloody repressions and undemocratic track records. Inevitably, the same thinking is now applied back home in what is now the travesty of a democracy in the USA itself, uhh!
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 29, 2007 at 12:06 pm #
By jatihoon, December 29 - “Moral of the story, you cannot befriend Cobras as per there development, they must be destroyed.....”
Oh, I’m sure that BB’s vision was right, jatihoon. After all, she was Pakistani too - and steeped in politics, even if she did spend much time in the West (and so have many others). It is a very young country (1940’s+) but the feuds are ancient.
Essentially, her approach was that she was a woman trying to forge unity in a country wrecked by the misguided boys’ club in the military and the judiciary. They still want to play with their toys and strut their aggrandized authority, uhh.
The fact that the former general Zia ul Haq and his gang muredered her father and then she lost her brothers as well - and Sharif was toppled as well- proves that it is a hard country to govern. That is not to say that they don’t want democracy, though.
It is the generals who don’t want a genuine democracy and the fundamentalists don’t want to be US puppets. Leave them alone and they will all revert to being decent humans. The real reptile in the game is the American rattlesnake, uhh!
Report thisBy QuyTran, December 29, 2007 at 11:30 am #
This was Bhutto’s inner scheme ! Nobody could come close to her auto except for the so-called “body guards”.
Report thisBy jatihoon, December 29, 2007 at 10:34 am #
TRUTH KILLED BUTTO.
1. What is the Truth. Truth is she was killed because, she had finally realized that only way she could save Pakistan disintegration was to change its Jihad policies, which one time she was part of it.
2. This realization came to her in the corridors of real democracies, “America, U.K ,"ofcourse not India”, because here her monies and freedom was safe.
3. She failed to realize that very Jihady Cobra which she once nurtured, is still very much alive and being fed by new Jihady Rats.Thinking America big stick will keep those rats in check and they will not dare harm her, little did she realise that America is not a mongoose but a Tiger or lion, raised to destroy big games, such as big building or bridges etc.
4. The sunshine which she try to bring to Pakistan,completely blindly the cobra snakes and as snake habbit is, to protect its own life and interest it hit or bite back.
Moral of the story, you cannot befriend Cobras as per there development, they must be destroyed.Her vision was right but her approach was wrong or misguided.
Report thisBy ricardo, December 29, 2007 at 10:19 am #
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al-Qaeda is also responsible for the tainted paint the chinese are using on us....the Almighty Al-qaeda has stricken again.....it’s kind of like Get smart...we are Control....Al-qaeda is CHaos!!!!
Report thisBy ricardo, December 29, 2007 at 10:04 am #
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I think that although it is a sad state of affairs in these nation that such animalistic behavior persists...it is good for our economy that these nations are so unstable...it will force the perverts that run our corporations to bring jobs back here since they would be less likely to open shop in unstable nations....so..india..pakistan...indonesia...open up baby...let the nukes fly....we will deal with nike and their shit products when they are forced to open up shop back here....let our unions rape them
Report thisBy Pacrat, December 29, 2007 at 8:42 am #
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Why are real or putative leaders assassinated and ordinary people are just killed or die? In any case, the death of Bhutto is sad and every nation will spin its import to death!!! (pardon the pun)
Bhutto was outstanding because she was a woman and an elected leader in a Muslim country. Other than that, she was not a really distinguished leader but was a figurehead. This has nothing to do with the fact that she was a good and generous woman - and will be missed by many - especially by the Bushies who promoted her return to Pakistan to at least co-lead the country with Musharaf.
What does the US gain by Bhutto’s death? What does it lose? Stay tuned to the pundits over the next week and become confused.
Report thisBy Frank, December 29, 2007 at 8:12 am #
There is no question there was a visible gun and three gunshots in the video, as well as a bomb blast, and aftermath photos show a bloody sunroof visor, so it could have been any one thing or combination of things. The gunshots in the video looked pretty haphazard and could have missed her, but so what if they didn’t? What difference does it really make which killed her? It’s pretty unlikely a traceable gun will ever be recovered that can be ballistically tied to recovered bullets. It’s Pakistan after all, and CSI Miami is not on the job. Neither the bomb nor the gun as a weapon of choice would be a distinguishing M.O. for the perpetrator.
Some local quoted in the media alleged that the Paki government’s claim that Bhutto died from hitting her head during the attack was an attempt to deny her martyrdom. Maybe that’s a real motive to change the official story, I don’t know. Perhaps somebody better versed in Islamic nuttery can explain the significance to me.
Report thisBy rage, December 29, 2007 at 6:24 am #
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It was Oswald again, this time from behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll in Pakistan with bin Laden spotting. Look for a new video by New Years telling us to attack Iran for this.
Report thisBy G.Anderson, December 29, 2007 at 6:14 am #
Like many American’s I have been confused about what is happening in Pakistan. I did not know what Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan Peoples Party stood for, and I so I went to it’s web site and read a few of Ms. Bhutto’s speaches.
http://www.ppp.org.pk/mbb/speeches/speeche85.html
Soon it became clear to me why she was killed and why the government continues to play games with the truth.
What follows are some of her statements from a speech she gave September 25th of this year:
“Under General Musharraf, the military intelligence agencies have received over ten billion dollars in unaccountable assistance from the U.S. government. Retired military officers from the security forces who fought the Afghan Jihad of the eighties are running our intelligence and administration.”
“ The ones who recruited the Mujahideen who morphed into Taliban and Al-Qaeda are in charge of our homeland security. Under their watch religious extremists have expanded in Pakistan. Radical mosques and madrassas have been encouraged as an alternative to recognized political institutions. They are awash in money and weapons while the people of Pakistan bear the burden of unemployment, inflation, poverty and hunger.”
“Since 9/11 the Musharraf regime has professed support for confronting militancy. But actions on the ground have not matched the rhetoric. Indeed, the only nation on this planet that has ever signed an actual peace treaty with the Taliban and al Qaeda militants is the current regime in Islamabad.”
“Large sections of Pakistan’s tribal areas have been ceded to non Pakistanis in the Taliban and Al-Qaeda militias. In fact, after defeat and demoralization following the fall of the Kabul, these violent elements have re-organized themselves under the shadow of the military regime. They attack NATO forces across the border in Afghanistan every day. They conduct suicide attacks within Pakistan killing innocent people. On September 20, 2007, Al – Qaeda declared war on the Pakistan army.”
“Military dictatorship has fueled extremism. A democratically elected government enjoying the support of the people can bring peace to the people of Pakistan and eliminate extremism. Eliminate terrorism by taking extremism off the radar screen of the region.”
Obviously Ms. Bhutto represented a very real threat to the military Dictatorship. Quite simply they wanted her dead.
But if what she is said is true, and I think it just might be, then America’s support for Musharraf is understandable, based on our long history of support for military dictatorships from Iraq to Iran.
In the past we have propped up many miltary dictatorships, it’s our style, we like them. Because as Ms. Bhutto points out.. “Some argue that extremism can better be confronted by a military backed regime. As such, a controlled dictatorship is seen as a stable and reliable ally, as opposed to a truly elected government that has the support of the people.”
We’ve made this mistake so many times in the past, you would think we would have learned by now how foolish it is. Our support for the Shah of Iran, and for Saddam Hussein are good examples of how this policy backfires.
It appears that the Fundamentalists are already in charge in Pakistan.
Do we really believe in Democracy in this country? Or do we prefer Democracy in name only?
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 29, 2007 at 5:25 am #
By Expat, December 29: “...as does the Amy Goodman interview with two Pakistani Intellectuals. You should watch it....”
Ditto and hanks, Expat. I still haven’t got to that part yet. How far in.......???
Report thisBy Expat, December 29, 2007 at 5:19 am #
By Douglas Chalmers, December 29 at 3:20 am #
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As much as I despise Bolton, I can’t ague with his conclusion, as does the Amy Goodman interview with two Pakistani Intellectuals. You should watch it.
Report thisBy dr.ramesh, December 29, 2007 at 5:17 am #
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salam benzir bhuuto who is a vwry brave all though she knows a situation of pakistan then also she came there for democracy but those people not wants democracy they spoled the life of her after as loke benzir no any done for pakistan
Report thisi shocked after hearing news of death of her and my reply is shut very bad bda bad bad bad day pakistan
last i salam her work and stop my p.c.
By Douglas Chalmers, December 29, 2007 at 3:20 am #
*Expat, December 29: “Some possible answers...”
Despite trying to blame BB for her own demise, Bloton’s comments are otherwise unusually on the mark....... see VIDEO>>>
Bolton: US ‘helped precipitate’ conditions for Bhutto’s assassination - The US has seen its options for dealing with Pakistan crumble with Benazir Bhutto’s assassination Thursday, and a former diplomat says American foreign policy decisions helped “precipitate” the former prime minister’s death.... http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bolton_US_helped_precipi tate_conditions_for_1228.html
Report thisBy Expat, December 29, 2007 at 2:34 am #
Follow this link for a very interesting analysis of the asassination of Bhutto.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/stream
Report thisBy cyrena, December 29, 2007 at 12:51 am #
Thomas Billis,
You really had me going there for a second. At least until I got to the part about Gregos. You could give Andy Borowitz a run for his money/satire.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, December 28, 2007 at 11:53 pm #
By Thomas Billis, December 28: “Bhutto sun roofed - Pres Musharef today banned the sale of sun roofs in Pakistan....”
Yeah, right. She “bumped her head”, uhh. That’s kind of fatal in Pakistan. Try this instead from another of Murdoch’s papers which is reporting a different view whilst the media in the USA is pandering to the official version of events:-
Fateful decision to stand and wave - Jeremy Page ...Rawalpindi: BENAZIR Bhutto was waving from the sunroof of her bullet-proof LandCruiser, with characteristic disregard for her safety, when the assassin struck. The election rally had been long and lacklustre, but surveying the crowd gathered at the gates of Liaquat Bagh park, Ms Bhutto turned to her deputy, Amin Fahim, and said she wanted to wave, Fahim recounted. The sunroof was opened and she stood up.
Shots rang out and Pakistan’s former prime minister and the leader of the Pakistan People’s Party slumped back into the vehicle, blood pouring from her head. Three to five shots were fired, with at least one shot hitting her in the neck, witnesses said. Ms Bhutto never regained consciousness. Moments later came a huge explosion to the left of her vehicle as the assassin blew himself up, mortally wounding Ms Bhutto and a squad of bodyguards who pounced on him.
At least 20 people were killed in the blast and dozens injured. Ambulance crews collected pieces of flesh from the street as bombing victims lay on the road, their clothes blown off and their bodies mutilated. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,229 82418-2703,00.html
##Quote Truthdig: According to this Jerusalem Post article, al-Qaida has taken responsibility for Bhutto’s death in an as-yet-unverified report.
More garbage in question as the media in the USA are screaming about AlQaeada and the Taliban but the story is quite different elsewhere:-
Mr Khan blamed the US for killing Bhutto and said “US President George W. Bush and Condeleeza Rice had backed Benazir as their horse and they should be condemned as they put her life in jeopardy. All those who feel that the US is targeting Islam targeted Bhutto as No. 1 suspect.”
“Bhutto was a threat to the people who have been in power for five years and instead of protecting her, they allowed her to be killed. How else could people get so close to her vehicle?” http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/ne ws/international/imran-seeks-pervez-resignation.aspx and Khan’s party, Tehreek-e-Insaf http://www.moveforjustice.org/
Police abandoned security posts before Bhutto assassination - No autopsy performed on body; docs say bullet wounds not found: Police abandoned their security posts shortly before Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto’s assassination Thursday, according to a journalist present at the time, and unanswerable questions remain about the cause of her death, because an autopsy was never performed. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Police_abandoned_securit y_posts_before_Bhutto_1228.html
Report thisBy Bert, December 28, 2007 at 10:15 pm #
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Has Robert Scheer figured out a way to blame President Bush for the Bhutto assassination yet?
Report thisBy Enemy of State, December 28, 2007 at 7:51 pm #
As mack states, the exact cause of death is of no great importance, whether bullet, bomb, or impact from being shot, the result -and intent was the same.
A Khokar: immediately after 9-11 US administration was under huge pressure to attack Pakistan if Musharraf didn’t join in the GWOT. The general responding to avoid a serious situation w.r.t the US. As at least a good part of Pakistani military and secret service were Taliban supporters, his allegiances on the misnamed US war of terror are mixed. I think US government change on Musharaf are a response to international and domestic (US public opinion), which has been turning against the general. This is because we perceive
Report thisthat the Pakistani people have lost patience with his rule. Of course Bush is also upset about the lukewarm support in wis war, and that made it rather easy to seek to replace the general -or at least appear to support the peoples desire for change.
I doubt Musharrafs gov is directly responsible for this outrage (and really really doubt the US was either). I would call this a sin of ommission not commission. By this I mean the government failed to provide decent protection to Benazir, but didn’t itself pull the trigger. In any case it looks like the only winners are chaos, which is probably desired by AlQaeda. Musharraf’s option to step down or share power has been ruined by this state of events. The US strategy is also in complete tatters. There may not be much the world can do at this point other than to hope it comes out for the best, especially for the long suffering people of Pakistan.
By Maani, December 28, 2007 at 7:22 pm #
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Hey, everybody - have you heard the news? It seems that the assassination was carried out by...Al Qaeda! Yup, the all-purpose bogeyman is being trotted out again. So tell me, kiddies, can you spell “never-ending war on terror propaganda?”
Report thisBy mackTN, December 28, 2007 at 7:07 pm #
I’m rather stunned to hear people debating the cause of Bhutto’s death. She was assasinated, and it wouldn’t make any difference whether her attacker missed but caused her death anyway by an injury trying to protect herself. No one’s buying that she slipped and hit her head, thereby actually killing herself.
In any case, not only do her doctors know if she was shot--surgery was performed, after all--but her husband would know as well. Any loving spouse would inspect the body of the deceased mate. Particularly in a case like this.
There’s been a rush to find a terrorist and deflect criticism from both Musharaff and the U.S. and discussion of their culpability in this matter. Corporate media--CNN, in particular--has even rushed golden boy 360 over there to find authorities who would finger the terrorists and construct the official story.
But post-Iraq, nobody believes it.
Report thisBy A Khokar, December 28, 2007 at 6:47 pm #
A tragic end of an able but misguided daughter of Pakistan
Where as Musharraf was living by his initial undertaking with US to function as front state in US plans of War against Terrorism; only Musharraf well knows best that how many Pakistani military persons and civilian have so for been killed in the name of this phoney war to help US to bring about US global hegemonic greed to grow full.
Musharraf had no personal interests; he is out there doing best under the circumstances to wade through some ways which only fall good in the interests of Pakistan. In case of Benazir Bhutto (on the dictations of US) to instate her back in power in Pakistan; he even agreed to lift the corruption charges against her and made all the arrangements for her smooth re-entry in Pakistan. And she did arrive back home.
But funny things started happening soon after her arrival. Washington rather than adopting the policy of ‘Run deep-Run silent’ and stay there calm in support of the issued scheme; stepped up an adverse and negative campaign against Musharraf. US started declaring him a spent cartridge and projected him a discredited President. US were doing every thing to depict him discredited, dysfunctional and to throw him; ousted as disgraced and humiliated. It is old bad habit of America to use his proxies as ‘tissue papers’ and ditches them by extermination; in a way that they are silenced for good.
Not only this; US also started boasting about Benazir Bhutto also; as a staunch US ally in a country where 70% people are against US in the global war on terror. Bhutto also bowed to the US rhetoric as a gesture to say a big thank you. This was a drastic miscalculation at her part to come back into power from back doors. After arrival she soon realised her folly and in order to back-pedal it and bring the masses in her favour, she heated up the political theatre by issuing fiery statement against Musharraf’s regime; who was by all means ready to step aside.
Where as Musharraf is not found dithering an inch in his resolve in the face of this campaign of malignity against him (except that he seems bit perplexed) but it all this short sighted scheme of United State cost Miss Benazir… her life.
It is a tragic end of an able but misguided daughter of Pakistan while playing in the hand of US.
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By Jacks, December 28, 2007 at 5:23 pm #
That is how officials explain her death. She, herself, did not slam her own head against the lever. Even if was by accident, the speed necessary to cause such a fatal injury would be excessive.
Report thisBy Expat, December 28, 2007 at 5:20 pm #
When all is said and done I would say “we” are the ones who killed Bhutto.
Report thisBy Thomas Billis, December 28, 2007 at 3:30 pm #
Pres Musharef today banned the sale of sun roofs in Pakistan.Long known as a silent killer in western cities and until now ignored in Asia.The Bhutto family has retained Mark Geragos to go after the sun roof manufacturers and make them pay for the damage they have done to Pakistan.Asked about the bullet wounds to her head and abdomen Mushareff answered “flesh wounds”.The sun roof manufacturer in a prepared statement said that in their tests most people who get shot in the head and abdomen at close range and hit their heads on the sun roof do die.100&#xof; people who only hit their heads on the sun roof take an advil and continue on to work.More as developments indicate.
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