If she gets him drunk-has a disease and is an authority figure......Ya dam*ed right it is rape.....

If the Chaplain blew the midshipman, which is what the article stated, chances are very, very high that the midshipman will not get HIV, which is good. However, he was sober enough to express his “discomfort” and say he didn’t want to continue, or so he claims.

Also, there is no way an adult doesn’t know that having oral sex performed on them by a Navy Chaplain is in NO WAY a part of their military duty, and it’s not like a Chaplain is a General or anything (accepting a hummer from a flag officer would likely be a good career move, but a Chaplain?). Besides, I don’t want members of our armed forces to be such spineless yes-men, able to be plied with alcohol into a compromising situation (national security anyone?), so prosecute the Chaplain for whatever part of the Military Code or criminal law he violated and expel the midshipman for being too easily manipulated, which is not a characteristic we need in our future officers. That might sound harsh, but this wasn’t High School or choir practice.

Re:villageidiot-Yes I did notice the age-20 years old SHOULD give the person the knowledge to say yes OR no.BUT...The CHAPLAIN IS AN OFFICER....THESE KIDS ARE BRAINWASHED TO OBEY OFFICERS and the kid[underage at 20]was given alcohol.How DRUNK did the OFFICER GET THE KID before he took advantage of him?AND THIS GUY HAS HIV????????If the kid had not remembered the incident-this pervert could have walked away scott free after getting his JOLLIES.The kid could contract HIV years from now and WOULD NOT KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM...Talk about a DATE RAPE SITUATION AND DRUG...Are they gonna try this “CHAPLAIN” for attempted murder?Don’t they do that when someone KNOWINGLY passes the HIV virus????Maybe EMPEROR BUSH*T WILL “DONATE” one of his daughters for the chaplains “USE”....[Oh SILLY ME...the “chaplain likes young men]

119059 by Gomerspile
I couldn’t agree more.  Both sides of the political equation have their own unique self serving rhetoric.  I think if we pull out Iraq the republicans “feel” they will take a huge it politically.  I think if we some how manage to salvage a win or at least a positive outcome, the democratic party “feel” like they will take a hit politically.  But, in the mean time is only our dedicated courageous troops taking the hit so the political machine does not have to. 
We are all big on blogging but a call to action is needed among our general population.  I wish a natural born leader would arise and find a way to rally the people.  Avoiding imports and sending a message is a good idea but the average American (I think) sees this as futile, just like voting they think it will not make much of a difference.  But, it takes many people individually to take action before any movement will appear on the radar.

Unfortunately, there are many distractions in our lives like, raising a family, managing a marriage, making a living, planning for retirement....
It is not easy to find more time but we must.  If this truly is a democracy where our elected officials are just the voices off the people then we should make our voices known, Before it is too late.  Currently, the politicians are the voices of the corporations only and the people are left to fend for themselves.

I for one will survey my buying habits as gomerspile suggests.

Anybody else notice that the victim in this case was a 20 year old midshipman? TWENTY. By then, he ought to know what was up regarding boundaries and such, so unless there’s more to it than the short, Penthouse Letter style description of that hot time on the balcony I’d say this midshipman will probably someday be a Congressman hanging out in airport restrooms. Ohhhh, please stop! But my body says Yes!! Bwahahahaha…

Comment:#118845 by 1dree5
ok, this is really off topic, but I could not resist.

Are you aware that you sound incoherent?  I appreciate Gomerspile comments, even if we do not agree on all topics.  The different points of view are refreshing.
You, on the other hand make little sense at all. 

“Just a reminder, there is a Theory out there and its based on Clinton’s Observed stand and change in stance over Israel near that meeting like “Annapolis”
it is said that Clinton was “softenned “ into a better Pro-Israel position by maligning him with Ms LewinSKI whose “handler” was Ms Tripp.”

This sentence is so poorly written and incoherent that it is hard to respond.

I think you should make sure and have a proof reader read your material before you post.  Not just for spelling, (but spelling to) but for run on sentences, misplaced modifiers and dangling participles.  A little trick, type your comment, copy and paste it to your word application, hit spell check, then re-copy and paste and put it back in the comment window. This little trick may help people take you seriously.  Unfortunately there is not “spell check” type tool for incoherent thought processes, but lets start with spelling.

It is hard to have a meaningful exchange of ideas if you do not understand basic language and grammar rules.  It also does not help when you start tossing out caustic remarks as gomerspile mentioned.

PS, is Ziony really a word?

The Chaplain had a resonable defense.He stated he is a member of The Our Lady of the Balls order and kissing the balls is part of the service.If you think that is crazy it is not any crazier than the rituals in any other church.
By the way were do those catholic cardinals get those beautiful dresses they wear.Men wearing dresses against homosexuality.Go figure.

Gomerspile comment #118749
Ok, I agree with some your comments (yes Bush has no culpability regarding a rape in the military) but I think the reason people pick on Bush is that he spends most of his time spouting phrases like: “Moral Highroad”, “family values” “Liberators”, “Culture of life”, “Not on my watch”, “I am a man of principals” “I am a man of integrity”….  When one spends so much time telling you how righteous they are it gets easy to take shots at them and anyone in their party who stumbles.  Whether it is the head of a very influential religious organization buying sex from a gay crack dealer, or a congressman having unnerving conversations with a senate page or an elected official soliciting sex in a men’s room stall.  The current Republican Party insists by their rhetoric that the republican party is the party of god; the republican party is the party of family values, ethics, life….

I too am pro choice, not pro NRA but in favor of guns to some extent, I am not for small government, but right sized government.  While I support our military I do not support the mission they are on and there is a “huge” difference between not supporting our military and not supporting the way our military is being used.
Honestly, if we were not at war, Bush would have been the lame duck of all time.  Without a war to prosecute his approval ratings would be in single digits.  He has made it pretty clear he is not much of a diplomat, statesman, negotiator, leader, uniter or even smart businessman.  Luckily for him he had Cheney, Rove, Rice and I am sure a whole raft of behind the scenes people pulling the strings.

And yes, it is the bullshit we are fed by both Dems and Repubs.  That are getting us into trouble.  I vote for the best candidate not a party.  We have become a country divided.  Repubs and dems vote for their party only and support anything their party wants. This will be the undoing of our country and as you mentioned the sheep that we are will follow our leaders to the edge of the cliff over the edge.

He Clinton has taken no more or no less responsibility of any other elected official.  Just about every republican I know way back to the Clinton admin until now think he (Clinton) was the worst president ever.  Yes, the worst.  While he was an easy target at times, he spent more time defending right wing attacks than he did governing our country. 

I disagree whole heartedly on we would be at war no matter what president was in the white house.  911 had nothing to do with this war and that is a sad fact the even bush himself has finally acknowledged.  This war was a farce from the very beginning and never should have been waged.  We went to war to get saddam, we sent to war to secure WMD’s we went to war to liberate the people of Iraq.  The latest “excuse” for being at war is to win the war on global terrorism????  There is no winning.  This is why it is a never ending war by design.  Sure, Dems in congress may have voted for the war but that was because of faulty intelligence.  Fight em there or fight em here (that is just another Karl Rove slogan to scare the masses into compliance.)

Comment #118679
“Cant you guys and girls find anyone to blame besides Bush.”

The same can be said for you conservative right wing nuts, when are you going to stop blaming Clinton for everything under the sun. “rapist”????

Clinton screwed an “of age” woman and lied about it.  Bush screwed 300 million Americans, including 3,000+ dead serviceman + many innocent iraqie civilians and put this once great nation in financial peril for the next 20 years+.  Our grand children will feel the pain of the the Bush regime.  He does not seem to care because Jesus will be coming soon…

And it is my understanding that the democratic congress is a majority by 1 vote.  But, with Lieberman involved who votes 99% of the time republican, and the strong arm tactics of the current admin. How in the hell do you expect the democratically controlled congress to get anything done.  Hell bush and his party had control of the congress and look where it got us, into a perpetual war, perpetual debt, and a justice system that we have no faith in.

Like Clinton, Bush has to take responsibility for what happens on his watch.  When he talks about the moral high ground then proceeds to torture, when he talks about the moral high ground then lies to the American people about Iraq and now Iran, when he and his admin. say he is fighting for liberty and freedom but pulling away American rights in the process, how in hell are we to not blame bush and his cronies for the current situation?

Clinton was not perfect by any means and may have been or better yet is a womanizer but compared to Bush, Clinton is a saint.  Even my conservative friends who put this clown into whitehouse now regret their decision.  Only a narrow 30% of Uber- conservative radical Christian loonies and the die hard republicans(who only are republican because that is what their parents were) make up his base.

Sincerely,

Proud to be an American, but lately embarrassed.

Was that guy a victim of pedophile ?

Silly-SILLY ME-I THOUGHT ONLY CATHOLIC PRIESTS DID THIS.......Now I hear of SENATORS??????.......And MILITARY CLERGY??????........This is another BAD THING happening on his imperial higha** Emperor BUSH*Ts WATCH....Where is his attention CENTERED????WHY isn’t SOMETHING BEING DONE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY?????.....If bush*t likes FOREIGN PLACES SO VERY MUCH....Let’s SEND HIM THERE WITH OUR BLESSING......