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Kerry Takes Swift Boat Vets’ $1M Bet

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Posted on Nov 21, 2007
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For the record:  Sen. John Kerry’s Vietnam War service was smeared, he still insists, by advertisements by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and now he’s out (during another election season) to set the record straight.  Kerry is shown above testifying before Congress after his return from Vietnam.

It may be a few years too late, but Sen. John Kerry is going after the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which launched a multimedia assault to besmirch his Vietnam War record before the 2004 presidential election.  Kerry has taken SBVT sympathizer T. Boone Pickens’ offer to pay $1 million to anyone who could disprove the group’s claims, and, as this letter posted on the John Kerry for U.S. Senate Web site shows, Kerry is not about to let Pickens change the terms of the bet.


John Kerry for U.S. Senate:

As I’ve said to you before, I am prepared to prove the lie and marshal all the evidence, the question is whether you are prepared to fulfill your obligation—no variations, no back pedaling, no retreat, no new bets, no changing the subject.

The only thing remaining now is to set the date for our meeting in an appropriate forum, after which I look forward to you keeping your word and writing a check for one million dollars payable to the Paralyzed Veterans of America so that we can put your money to good work for veterans who have returned home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 29, 2007 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

Joe,
If you really are concerned with the WHY of how you came to be in Viet Nam, and WHO made it their BUSINESS to send you there, then take the time to read the history of this family:

http://iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline-filer/frame.htm

Regarding Jane Fonda, have you ever considered how many times the Bush & Bin Laden families met?

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By Conservative Yankee, November 29, 2007 at 8:15 am Link to this comment
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115694 by Grousefeather on 11/25 at 6:58 am

“Boon Pickens is a corrupt lier who stole his way to wealth. That our country tolorates men like him is a black mark against our history. He deserves a bullet between his immoral eyes.”

BUT only one in a long line of righties and lefties
including, but not limited to:

Alexander Hamilton
Minor C. Keith
Joe Kennedy
Robert Vesco
Donald Trump
Henry Kravis
George Roberts
Andrew Mellon & family
Cornelius Vanderbilt % family
JP Morgan
and anyone who had anything to do with railroad right-of-ways in the 19th century
The Hunt brothers
Raleigh Warner Sr.

The list is endless.  Right, left or center, we are awash in crooks!

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By thomas Billis, November 26, 2007 at 1:10 am Link to this comment
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I read one comment that to me was stunning.The revisionist history of our Vietnam war has already started.I would have thought it would have started after my generation was dead and gone but alas I was wrong.I guess the logic is if you can justify one ridiculous war you can justify another one.So I guess the solution in Vietnam as in Iraq is to keep fighting because the Pres says so.Someday critical thinking will be a requirement in American schools and I will live long enough to see Americans think rather than follow orders.Remember we are not Nazi Germany we do not just do things because the Fuhrer George Bush or any other misdirected leader tells us to.

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By Grousefeather, November 25, 2007 at 7:58 am Link to this comment
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Boon Pickens is a corrupt lier who stole his way to wealth. That our country tolorates men like him is a black mark against our history. He deserves a bullet between his immoral eyes.

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By Louise, November 25, 2007 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

The War effort.
Now there’s a ridiculous statement if ever there was one.

When we go to war, it’s because we need to defend our nation. Right? RIGHT?

Yeh right. Where’s the profit in that?

Vietnam Vets have a perfect right to be pissed. They were treated like garbage when they came home. And I’m not just talking about the wounded and the walking wounded. If JOE DAFFERN (#115479) wants to blame Kerry for that, I guess [in a free country . still . I think] that’s his privilege. But for god sakes, whatever you do Joe, don’t blame the politicians who started that war. Don’t blame the manufacturers of things that go boom and kill, and destroy, and lay waste to everything of value, including human life, while making boo koo bucks for the privileged few.

No indeed. Show us the true strength of character it takes to give those bastards a pass and blame the vets who had the guts to come home and tell the truth. And blame Jane Fonda.

She made a very stupid mistake when she met with the North Vietnamese in July 1972 , and she is the first one to admit it. Was she guilty of treason? I wont go there Mr. outraged Vietnam Vet, except to say the Sedition Act which so many use to target her was done away with years before this happened. And neither should you, and here’s why. How about your favorite president Nixon who met with the Communist Chinese, on February 21, 1972, four months BEFORE Fonda’s stupid blunder? Never mind Chairman Mao Zedong and the Red Chinese were supplying troops and weapons to the North Vietnamese. In fact, the North Vietnam military would have been incapable of sustaining a war had it not been for support from Mao Zedong and the Communist Chinese.

Oh that’s different, right?

Or maybe that very old prejudice you’re packing around keeps you from looking at any other facts.

Now about that war “effort.”  Here’s a little bit of wisdom, a guide to the switch that will turn the light on in the attic.

Wars based on lies for personal political gain and profit can not be won!
Ever!
Period!
Impossible!

Because every premise you are asked to base your service on, as a loyal honest member of the military, is fake! Kinda like swinging at ghosts. They, the bastards who start wars with lies to gain power and make money, send you off to fight and die for THEM. Not for the poor down-trodden South Vietnamese, or the Iraqis, but for THEM! And as long as the fighting and dieing goes on to protect THEM from being discovered, they will continue lying to keep the war “effort” going, and to start more wars.

If you are OK with that, then I guess this is all wasted words.

All the same sir, don’t blame Fonda. Don’t blame Kerry. Don’t even blame Nixon, who like so many presidents took his marching orders from the war machine. If you need to find blame, blame Johnson. One of the first things he did following the assassination of Kennedy was call his buddies, who make profit manufacturing the war machine, and tell them, “You will have your war.” Kennedy had told them prior to his trip to Texas it wasn’t going to happen.

Now about Kerry.
Too little too late.
What he should be doing, what he should have done the day after the 2004 election was demand investigations into the vote fraud the republicans have perfected. And lead the investigation!

We are still waiting Kerry.

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By Paracelsus, November 25, 2007 at 6:13 am Link to this comment

#115479 by JOE DAFFERN

“I DONT KNOW WHO DID THE MOST DAMAGE TO THE WAR EFFORT
IN VIETNAM.KERRY OR JANE FONDA.I WAS THERE IN 68-69.
RIGHT OR WRONG ON US BEING THERE.HE DISGRACED THE AMERICANS SERVICEMEN.HE PUT HIS FUTURE POLICAL AMBITIONS AHEAD OF THE COUNTRY REALLY.MY NAME IS ON
THE SWIFT BOAT LIST.
JOE DAFFERN
ELLINWOOD KS.”

Really??

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By Conservative Yankee, November 25, 2007 at 6:06 am Link to this comment
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115479 by JOE DAFFERN on 11/24 at 9:18 am

“I DONT KNOW WHO DID THE MOST DAMAGE TO THE WAR EFFORT
IN VIETNAM.KERRY OR JANE FONDA.I WAS THERE IN 68-69.”

People hate to be wrong, and then exposed.  The Vietnam war was wrong, and no amount of “deflecting” will ever make it right. 

Jane Fonda and John Kerry did very little to influence the outcome of the Vietnam War, Fonda may have even strengthened the resolve of those who supported this ill-advised action.

The Civil war rent this country for over 100 years. Lets hope we can put Vietnam behind us in a shorter period of time. Ya know, it’s getting to be acient history! No one who was there wants to admit that either, as it means we are getting OLD!

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 24, 2007 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment

Come to think of it, I guess a great job and all the money in the world doesn’t buy happiness.  My wife IS right.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 24, 2007 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

Kerry has a great job and lots of money.  Why the sour grapes?

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By JOE DAFFERN, November 24, 2007 at 10:18 am Link to this comment
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I DONT KNOW WHO DID THE MOST DAMAGE TO THE WAR EFFORT
IN VIETNAM.KERRY OR JANE FONDA.I WAS THERE IN 68-69.
RIGHT OR WRONG ON US BEING THERE.HE DISGRACED THE AMERICANS SERVICEMEN.HE PUT HIS FUTURE POLICAL AMBITIONS AHEAD OF THE COUNTRY REALLY.MY NAME IS ON
THE SWIFT BOAT LIST.
JOE DAFFERN
ELLINWOOD KS.

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By madandersen, November 23, 2007 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
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Now, Dems will be looking backward at the Swift Boaters and totally miss the next right wing zinger.

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 23, 2007 at 3:08 pm Link to this comment

Pickens will never pay up. Ted Koppel offered proof quite some time ago, through filmed interviews from the scene of the action verifying Kerry’s claims as the truth, and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth/Lies as just that…politically inspired LIES.

Isn’t it ironic that the same righties who used to put the Commies down about having an ‘end justifies the means’ philosophy now use the very same tactic?

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By Paracelsus, November 23, 2007 at 12:23 am Link to this comment

Shouldn’t Horseface be inside a coffin jerking off to Berlioz’s Grande messe des morts?

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By dale Headley, November 22, 2007 at 11:36 am Link to this comment
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Let’s face it: the only place Pickens will show up will be on the Rush Limbaugh program.  The two of them will then claim that Kerry is afraid to face them; and the “dittoheads” will eat it up, as they always do.

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By DennisD, November 22, 2007 at 9:39 am Link to this comment
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John Kerry - talk about a day late and a dollar short. Where the hell was the outrage 3 plus f**king years ago when it mattered.

Thanks for the 4 additional years of the imbecile and chief enema you helped give this country. Now go away, you should be ashamed of yourself.

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By Conservative Yankee, November 22, 2007 at 6:59 am Link to this comment
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Kerry is just another in a long line of political hacks who seriously believes he is still relevant.

The party decided they needed someone to “stop Dean” Kerry drew the short straw… end of story…

In other words WTFC

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By anonymous, November 22, 2007 at 6:28 am Link to this comment
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with all his money and barely any time left to spend it, a million bucks would still be more important to pickens than his honor if he had any

have to add him to my list of Graves to Poop On

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By Paracelsus, November 21, 2007 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment

Don’t taze me, bro!

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By Peggy, November 21, 2007 at 9:39 pm Link to this comment
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Mr T Boone Picken is not a member of the Swift Vets.  He donated to their cause but is not a member.

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By thomas billis, November 21, 2007 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment
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Is john Kerry going to pay in ketchup if he loses.John the swift boat has sailed.I went horse yelling at the TV screen telling you to bury these sons of bitches.You made the decision to take the high road against moles and now you are accepting a challenge to prove they were wrong.Good Luck.Your reticence to take them on gave us another 4 years of the chimp.A real war hero.The Paralyzed Veterans Of America may get a windfall but we got screwed.

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