Lefty, please reply as to your citizenship.  Are you a US Citizen, or an Israeli Citizen.  If you are Israeli, fine, your a Zionist arsehole and KMA.

If you are a US Citizen, you put Israel’s interest above that of the US, and as such, are a traitor, and should immediately renounce your citizenship and move your zioinist ass to one of the hundred of illegal kibbutz in the Golen Heights.  If you really hate the displaced citizens of Palestine so much, move and go kill a few.  Stop expecting our nation to be complicent in Israeli terrorism, we have our own terrorist in office we are hoping to deal with before he invades Iran so Israel doesn’t have to.

#115750 by Ernest Canning

Ernest,
I ditto Non Credo again, and have said pretty much the same myself. I only worry if cheney will even wait until spring. He’s had this in the plan for so long.

I do get your point on the foreign fighters in Iraq though. I’d missed it myself, maybe not because of myopia, but just because it’s been so long now, since the US invaded and occupied that country. And, so many other of the MSM headlines have been spinning new ‘security’ gains there. Yeah right. Possibly the only real ones might be the observation that violence in the Basra area had dropped 90% since the Brits left. But even a moron can figure out by now, that the only reason for the violence ANYWHERE in Iraq is the US presence there. It wasn’t like that before our ‘foreign fighters’ got there, and nothing will improve until we leave.

I did spend a few hours on ‘impeachment duty’ today…just trying to clarify the urgency of the thing. Seems like I’ve been doing THAT for a real long time as well. At least 6 years.

Cyrena & non credo:  There is no more evidence to support the supposed links between Iran and the Iraqi resistance than there was to support the alleged links between al Qaeda and Saddam.  We are seeing a re-run of the Dick Cheney-led effort to fix the intelligence and facts around the policy. 

There is no question but that the administration is moving forward with plans to, as a minimum, unless an extensive bombing campaign, perhaps a full scale invasion of Iran, probably next Spring.  I think there can also be little doubt, given the expansive view of the original Congressional authorization to use force it obtained in the wake of 9/11, that the administration will argue that the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, which designated the Iranian revolutionary guard as “terrorists” authorizes such unilateral executive action as part of its global war on terror.

Since, unlike Iraq, Iran has not been crippled by by 13 years of devastating U.N. sanctions, and since Iraq has so depleted our ground forces, it is likely that a bombing campaign would, at a minimum, unleash a blowback from the Iranians not only against our armed forces in Iraq, but in terms of retaliatory “terrorist” strikes here the U.S., triggering the executive orders now in place to permit the Bush regime to declare a national emergency, impose martial law, shut down Congress and postpone elections.

While such a scenario could produce an unmitigated military disaster, especially if Russia should enter the fray on behalf of Iran, it would provide what the unscrupulous and ever-scheming Dick Cheney has always desired—permanent, unchecked and unlimited power.  That is why, for him, the irrational is rational.

There is only one way to put a stop to this approaching disaster—impeachment now!  Not after it happens.

Finally, Cyrena.  My problem with the New York Times piece which argues that the “foreign fighters” in Iraq come primarily from U.S. allies, like Saudi Arabia, is that it is a product of American myopia which ignores a fundamental truth.  The nation supplying the greatest number of “foreign fighters” in Iraq is the United States!

A Question I would like to ask Hillary Clinton if I had the oporturnity:
You have chosen Madeline Albright as your foreign policy advisor.  Albright is notorious for having told a correspondent on the CBS tv show “60 Minutes” in 1997, when she was your husband’s Sceretary of State, that she believed that the slaughter of 500,000 Iraqi children since the end of the first Gulf war in 1991 was “worth it” in terms of meeting US policy objectives.  Given that the US may be about to repeat the same diasterous mistakes in Iran that we made in Iraq, do you think that there is any US foreign policy objective that would justify the systematic slaughter of 500,000 innocent children?

Better get to work on the civil disobedience, and quick.

Iran in Crosshairs
as Fuel Delivery to Gulf
Forces Increases

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112407A.shtml

This one blames the Iranians. (to be expected of course)

US Blames Iran-Backed Group for Baghdad Bombing
  Reuters
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112407B.shtml

But this one, (the day before) blames the Saudis and the Libyans (America’s allies)

Foreign Fighters in Iraq
Are Tied to US Allies
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112207C.shtml

#115421 by Non Credo

•  However, I am suspicious of this article, because it shows signs of being a hatchet job. Much of the article is smearing by association. So what if David Dukes likes Ron Paul. On Duke’s website, there’s a link to the book on the Israel lobby by Mearsheimer and Walt. Does that discredit them or their book? Certainly not.
Non Credo,

That’s why I like you. (soul mates in skepticism – ALWAYS question…ALWAYS….) So yes, I can very much appreciate what you noticed from the article. AND…I would have noticed the same about any other, IF (and only if) I didn’t already have some on-hand experience with the Ron Paul ideology long before he became a candidate for the executive office. And, under other circumstances, I WOULDN’T necessarily have this ‘foreknowledge” but as it happens, I do in this instance.

Still, I wouldn’t expect that alone to be enough to ‘certify’ the article that appeared to you like a possible hack job. I don’t think it was, but again, I cannot ‘certify’ it. I can only say that it’s very similar to other speeches that he has delivered. And, I have in fact actually HEARD some of those same things, directly from him. (Specifically the alleged statistics on all of the crimes of black men.) 

Now if it looks like there’s any possibility of him actually getting the repugs nomination, I WILL take the time to dig the stuff up, because he’s a disaster waiting to take down the rest of whatever might be left of the republic. And, I don’t wanna hear the same whining or apologies from the same folks that put the Dangerous Duo in office two times running. Like…. they didn’t know. Or, they had ‘no idea’ that Dick Bush would do this. Or even worse, remain in denial and claim that everything they’re doing is still just honkey dorey. More than anything, I don’t wanna have to flee my own country if Ron Paul takes the reins, and that’s what I’d be forced to do. (or at least make sure the siblings and kids escaped). Who would have thought that I’d ever even pay any attention to the repuglican candidates, if only to figure out which one would be the least of the evils. I was just thinking it over a bit ago, and I’m almost embarrassed to admit it, but if I had to take any of them, it would have to be John McCain. (is he even still in the running?)I know, I know. But, look at the rest of them. The only one worse than Ron Paul is Guiliani, and even that’s a toss up.

So for now, the only thing to keep in mind are the basics. Ron Paul is a life long repuglican, and a radical right conservative. His entire political life has been spent in the representation of some people from Texas, (and NOT the handful of progressives there). So, just remember that…Repuglican, Texas, Conservative, Bible Belt Religious, and Patriarchal; consistently supported in all political efforts by white supremacists. Now, ALL of those things are true, and all are well documented, so that’s not a smear by association, but rather just what he is and where his principles lie.

Non Credo.  I long ago gave up on responding directly to “Lefty’s” many rants.  If you will go back on truthdig to the 6/3/07 article by Chris Hedges entitled “Looking Back on 40 years of occupation” you will find a running colloquy which entailed an alignment of three Zionist posters—lilmanzer, lefty and Inherit the Wind on one side with a number of critics of Israeli policies who regard Zionist policies as both racist and fascist.  Those other posters included myself, Tony Withcer, Robert, Peter RV and Fadel Abdalluh.

The only one of the three pro-Israeli posters who, at times, offered rational discourse was Inherit the Wind.  limamzer and Lefty constantly resorted to irrational rants, which in Lefty’s case are perhaps suggestive of acute psychopathology.

This dialogue was a continuation from an ealier post, the title of which escapes me.  It is my recollection that one of the posters challenging Israeli policies provided an account of how he was able to identify “Lefty” as Ephraim Pesasch.  He was referred to as such on numerous occasions and never once denied it.

If you find the time, I think you will also find both Hedge’s earlier article, a number of the posts and links a worthwhile endeavor.

#115595 by troublesum on 11/24 at 4:01 pm

•  Paul has steadfastly refused to repudiate the support given him by white supremicist and other racist organizations over the course of several election cycles.  This is what concerns people, not his regard for congressional process which any pageboy or girl has.

BINGO troublesum!!
You’ve hit the bulls-eye here. (or at least one of them…maybe the most troublesome). This is it. A racist is a racist, and will generally ALWAYS be a racist. Not much way around that.

And, unfortunately, it’s just not a new fad of some sort. Sad as it is to acknowledge, (though dangerous not to) this country (and it’s Constitution) was FOUNDED on the premise of white supremacy. I wish that it were not the case, but the FACT of the matter, is that it is.

Now, we’ve made some progress against that in the past 200 or so years, so clearly things are ‘better’. Amendments have helped some, though the law cannot change the mentality. Ron Paul isn’t even TRYING to change his mentality, and that might be just as well, since it’s clear enough (at least to me) that a racist is always a racist, and those who are firmly convinced of the superiority of the white race, generally stay convinced of that. Ergo, Ron Paul has no troubles with support from the white supremacist organizations. No doubt, they are his greatest fans/supporters.

So, why try to fool anyone into believing otherwise? Much better to let it be clear that he is what he is, and thinks what he thinks, and believes what he believes. Then, the rest of us can form our own opinions accordingly.

Paul has steadfastly refused to repudiate the support given him by white supremicist and other racist organizations over the course of several election cycles.  This is what concerns people, not his regard for congressional process which any pageboy or girl has.

Ron Paul’s statement below exhibits his solid credentials and sober regard for congressional process:

Statement Regarding Impeachment of Vice President Cheney

Ron Paul Speech to Congress

November 6, 2007

Mr. Speaker, I rise, reluctantly, in favor of the motion to table House Resolution 799, Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors, and in favor of referring that resolution to the House Judiciary Committee for full consideration. I voted to table this resolution not because I do not share the gentleman from Ohio’s desire to hold those responsible for the Iraqi debacle accountable; but rather, because I strongly believe that we must follow established protocol in matters of such importance. During my entire time in Congress, I have been outspoken in my opposition to war with Iraq and Iran. I have warned my colleagues and the administration against marching toward war in numerous speeches over the years, and I have voted against every appropriation to continue the war on Iraq.

I have always been strongly in favor of vigorous congressional oversight of the executive branch, and I have lamented our abrogation of these Constitutional obligations in recent times. I do believe, however, that this legislation should proceed through the House of Representatives following regular order, which would require investigation and hearings in the House Judiciary Committee before the resolution proceeds to the floor for a vote. This time-tested manner of moving impeachment legislation may slow the process, but in the long run it preserves liberty by ensuring that the House thoroughly deliberates on such weighty matters. In past impeachments of high officials, including those of Presidents Nixon and Clinton, the legislation had always gone through the proper committee with full investigation and accompanying committee report.

I noted with some dismay that many of my colleagues who have long supported the war changed their vote to oppose tabling the motion for purely political reasons. That move was a disrespectful to the Constitutional function of this body and I could not support such actions with my vote.

I was pleased that the House did vote in favor of sending this legislation to the Judiciary Committee, which essentially directs the committee to examine the issue more closely than it has done to this point.

#115505 by troublesum on 11/24 at 10:36 am: “All 900 Polish troops in Iraq will be withdrawn….”

Same for Australian troops too, I believe, troublesum
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ac5bab4TApqc&refer=home

Australia joins Poland in throwing out a Bush ally and electing an anti-war candidate to lead the country.  All 900 Polish troops in Iraq will be withdrawn.

“People in all corners of the globe” are not responsible for the US government, we are.

#115474 by Scott on 11/24 at 8:40 am: “People in all corners of the globe are terrified of the US government….

Were, Scott. Now that the Australians have thrown out their neocon conservative government for a Democrats equivalent, its over, uhh. Whats more, the new deputy prime minister (US vice-president equivalent) is a 46 year-old woman!

The Howard years have largely been a free ride on the strength of the commodities boom there and Australians have personally paid the cost of having allowed their federal leadership to always take the easy option.

Non credo.  I long ago concluded that Ephraim “Lefty” Pesasch suffers from a political schizophrenia.  Domestically he favors the progressive policies of a Dennis Kucinich.  Yet when it comes to Israel, he is to the right of Likud.

“In France the government is afraid of the people; in the US the people are afraid of the government.”

People in all corners of the globe are terrified of the US government.

Ron Paul is advocating we dismantle a corrupted US government and let the states handle all duties not assigned the the Feds under the Constitution. Very radical idea, but I remember how the states handled integration until the Feds stepped in. Rather than dismantle the gov. I would rather have a constitutionalist like Kucinich fix it (if it can be fixed)—and dismantle it only as a last resort.  Rather than have the big-money oligrachy continue to control the government, I would let Ron Paul dismantle it.

Without the matter of his oppostion to the war, Ron Paul’s campaign would be a minor blip on the screen.
Unrestrained free market capitalism and social darwinism is just what everyone wants.

I think this disqualifies him as well…

Why Are White Supremacists So Attracted to Ron Paul?

Pam Spaulding: Could it be a political newsletter Rep. Paul put out in 1992 where he made some comments that are, well, racist?

•  Stormfront.org, a white supremacy web site, as well as others, such as WhiteWorldNews.com, have actively supported Paul’s bid for the presidency, including directing donors to his campaign. Stormfront has also endorsed Paul for president.

•  “Once in a great while a presidential candidate is presented to us. A candidate who not only speaks to us, but for us…I am supporting Ron Paul in his run for the presidency,” the Stormfront endorsement says. The endorsement praises Paul’s plans to reduce taxes, close the borders and eliminate trade deals, such as NAFTA.

•  “Whatever organization you belong to, remember first and foremost that you are a white nationalist,” the endorsement continues. “Put your differences with one and other aside and work together. Work together to strive to get someone in the Oval Office who agrees with much of what we want for our future. Look at the man. Look at the issues. Look at our future. Vote for Ron Paul 2008.”

•  ...On the Vanguard News Network , convicted bomber and neo-Nazi Todd Vanbiber posted his support for Paul, saying, “I think I’m going to get in touch with the local Paul people and see if I can help. I am serious about this shit.”; Vanbiber was convicted and spent 5 years in a Florida prison for planning to bomb over a dozen Orlando locations.

Ain’t that America. Apparently the attraction to Paul of the supremacist set stems from a political newsletter from 1992 where Ron Paul made some comments that are, well, racist. I would hope the Paul campaign would explain this:

* “Opinion polls show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

* “We are constantly told it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Even more embarrassing, according to Lone Star Times, Paul has the support of David Duke, and Stormfront has a YouTube audio commercial up supporting Paul.

Ed Morrissey at Captain’s Quarters actually posted on Paul’s writings several months ago—and there’s more.

But, hey, Paul’s paranoia isn’t limited to African-Americans. He fears the Joooooooos, too:

•  Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

Article and Reader Comments here
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/67651/
The rhetoric of the current RP is defied not only by his more recent congressional voting record, but also by his past comments, over decades. Leopards don’t change their spots.

Additionally, RP is neither pro-choice or pro-life. (I dislike BOTH of these politically adapted terms for use in any discussion about abortion). He is ANTI-choice, because he is ANTI-abortion, and has dodged conveying his real sentiments on this by claiming that it should be ‘left to the states’. By claiming to leave it to leave it to the states to decide, he has basically denied the Constitutional foundation of privacy upon which Roe v. Wade was decided.

But Ron Paul has special interests of his own. Mixed economy? Forget it. Regulatory agencies? Not on his watch. Taxes? He’ll do his best to wipe them out. Social Security? Dream on. Cooperation with the United Nations? He’ll probably try to pull out of it. And if you’re a Jew or a Black, folks, the best you can expect is no sympathy. At worst, crazy things could happen.

#115238 by Non Credo

….”“Hey [forced chuckle] - not that anyone’s talking about this, but - did you know that I’m not wearing any underwear? What do you think about that?”…”

Oh Non Credo, my own was a REAL chuckle, (more like a full throttle howl, but I better not go there, if only to avoid giving credence to some of the more ludicrous of accusations leveled against me lately).

STILL, this could give you the opening you need. Mention the fact that you aren’t wearing any underwear, ask what they think about it, and offer to PROVE that you aren’t. Now, in displaying the proof, you can simply have on (in place of the underwear) some sign or noisemaking apparatus that brings up the issue of attacking Iran, which is guaranteed to have far more disastrous effects than you simply failing to have on underwear.

Besides, they’ll be so relieved to avoid THAT conversation, (about your lack of underwear) that they’ll be overwhelmingly committed to anything else that would move the conversation along.

So, try that. Let me know if it works, and keep in mind that there’s more than one way to inject a moderate dose of intelligence and/or reality into the brain of an unwilling recipient.

ElkoJohn:  I hope you realize that Ron Paul was amongst those who joined in seeking to table impeachment when Mr. Kucinich introduced the articles before the House on a motion of privilege.  I think that disqualifies Paul as a “constitutionalist” prepared to withstand the fascist onslaught against our constitution and the rule of law.  Mr. Kucnich is the only presidential candidate who warrants our vote.

#115305 by ElkoJohn on 11/23 at 12:18 pm: “The only true patriots and constitutionalists ...are…”

Out of about 300 million people, there are only two “patriots”??? This is the whine I keep hearing…... what a wank!!!

When the 50% who can’t be bothered to vote get off their asses, when the rest of your “sheep” start to think for themselves, whne you whiners start to act for yourselves instaed of waing for someone to do it all for you…..... then there will be change, uhh.

As long as the oligarchy of unelected, economic and media elites rules the US, the American people will sit on their hands and there is no hope for change.

The only true patriots and constitutionalists running for Prez. are Reps. Kucinich & Paul.  The rest belong to the business as usual, corrupt American political system.  Of course, the big-money oligarchy works hard to keep American voters brain-washed, so only a small percent can see the truth to vote for K & P.

The Vietnam War was stopped when the American people took to the streets with a passion, and many performed acts civil disobedience.  For example, Father Berrigan broke into a draft board office and burned draft records.

But no more.
Something is dreadfully wrong with a system that allows a Bush & a Cheney to rule the world with impunity.

#115289 by WriterOnTheStorm on 11/23 at 11:12 am: “...surgical air strikes might be carried out on select targets, possibly “unilaterally” by Israel…... no precedent to suggest that such actions will lead to an invasion…”

The sickos are at it again, uhh! “Surgical” air strikes, blah blah….. “No invasion”, blah blah….

This leads us right back to where this kind of warfare all began with the bombing of Belgrade! The Chinese embassy there was the vitim along with a lot of other people of your stupid “surgical’ air strikes, WriterOnTheStorm.

“War will never be stopped by the Kings and Prime Ministers who profit from it.  There is only one way in which war will ever be stopped: when the people who are harmed by war refuse to obey orders.”
Tolstoy

I like Chris’ attitude, but his fear mongering from the left is hardly constructive. It gives those of opposing political stripes an opening to dismiss such comments as alarmist or paranoid.

A more realistic assessment of the situation is that surgical air strikes might be carried out on select targets, possibly “unilaterally” by Israel. There is no precedent to suggest that such actions will lead to an invasion per se, or that Iran, Pakistan et el will move to retaliate directly.

Further, even granting the current admin’s most nefarious motives, it is not immediately apparent how Hedges’ invasion scenario advances their goals substantially more than air strikes and saber rattling might. As the 40 year old war on drugs makes clear, it is not necessary to keep the fear at a fever pitch to validate your pretexts and justifications.

Avoiding an invasion, but settling for air strikes, or even economic sanctions which collectively penalize the people of Iran, will be no feather in a progressive’s cap. The only victory the left can claim here will be felt in the next generation, when the number of American hating middle easterners ceases to be exactly proportional to the birthrate.

“In France the government is afraid of the people; in the US the people are afraid of the government.”
Spoken by an American woman living in France in Michael Moore’s film,“Sicko.”  We don’t need Ron Paul at this time in the US.  What we need is a man like Tony Benn, former MP in England, who also appeared in “Sicko”.

Refusing to pay your Federal income taxes is an attractive idea. My late wife and I did just that during the Viet Nam war (our inspiration was Edmund Wilson’s book, “The Income TAx and the Cold War.” We were both employed by a then well-known non-profit organization, headed by a retired admiral. When we wrote to the government and told them why we were not paying the taxes due, they rapidly garnisheed our wages, went to our bank account, and then told the admiral what was happening. To his credit, he told us, in effect, nobody is going to tell me how to do my job, you do what you have to do. He told us we were valuable high-level employees, kept us in our jobs, and in fact, after it was all over he gave me a raise. So, be aware, the feds WILL come after you, in one way or another.

If you initiate it as a conversational subject in a social situation, even “liberals” move away from you like you’re a crank. “Eeeeuuwww! That’s such a downer!....”

Well Non Credo,

I have to admit that you’re right. But, after a while, you get used to it, and just keep talking. At some point, they have to pay attention. Now I’m talking about ‘normal’ people here. And, they don’t necessarily even have to be liberals. They could just be people with at least a moderate level of common sense.

HOWEVER, it does mean doing some myth busting. So, you can start out with real simple stuff like…”to what ADVANTAGE would it be to the average joe or jane in the US of A, to initiate a strike on Iran? How will that ASSIST the average American citizen? WHATEVER they answer, (seriously…anything they say) can then be easily pointed out as a complete fallacy. And, for at least the basic stuff, you can even leave Israel out of the question entirely.

In other words, if you’re talking to American citizens, in a social setting/situation in a US location, just ask them what ADVANTAGE it would be to AMERICA (the US portion of course) to attack Iran. As we know, there IS NONE. You can easily point that out.

If you have money in your pocket, consider yourself logged on.

The question is should you take the blue bill or the red bill?

The green one’s aren’t worth squat.

It’s ridiculous to think you won’t pay taxes.  If you have income and spend it, then you’re paying taxes.  Show me one person who lives wholly by bartering.  If you are self-employed, don’t report your income and spend it in this country, you are still paying taxes.  Stop participating in the economy of this country—if you can.  Then you might not pay taxes.  Don’t forget, you can’t own property and you can’t rent it either.  You have to squat.  Let me know how you make out.  I might join you.

I’ve tried going down this street too Paolo, its like one of those cul de sac things where you can drive around in circles and eventually go mad trying to figure out how to get entirely off the grid.

Parking yourself in the middle of the ocean wouldn’t do it. Somebody would just try to sink you. By the same token staying air-born wouldn’t work either, someone would only try to shoot you down. I think the only way is to leave the planet and you might as well be prepared for the day when you’ll have to vacate the Solar System and eventually the galaxy itself.

It looks like resistance probably really is futile. Sorry.

Don’t get me wrong though, I’m all for a tax revolt based on a concsientious objection to war. In fact I don’t think it should be legal for a government to fund any sort of army with tax money period. War should be strictly funded by bonds - by the people who want to put their own money where their mouths are.

A British source citing UK intelligence sources confirm that any attack under either the already disastrous named quagmire in Iraq would have Iran firing hundreds of missiles at Israel, attacking American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, inflaming terrorist attacks in the West and choking off tanker traffic through the Strait of Hormuz.

It wont be $200 a barrel of oil. It will be no oil period

To be followed by even worse news. A strike on Iran could ignite Pakistan, Al Qaeda’s increasingly thriving base. And the US increasingly sinking into a larger quagmire stretching from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, as well as two or three other neighbors.

If Iraq is still considered as a non- victory after SIX years one can imagine when victory will occur when the US all alone will be engaged in regime changes from Pakistan to the Turkish border.

For these events to occur would mean that the neocons and assorted zionists,ie.,[Podhoretz, Perle, Nethanyahu, Dershowitz, Horowitz, Pipes, Gaffney, Ledeen, as well as the harebrained fundamentalists led by the not so bright but loud John Hagee from San Antonio Texas[many of whom are already packed to attend the Rapture in Israel] would have succeeded in contributing making the US as relevant as the present UK.

Civil disobediance actions would be but band aids compared to the worldwide hemoraging of US standing/influence.

We have to start questioning this whole paradigm of state authority. I agree it’s right to withhold your taxes to keep from supporting the creeps who steal your money and steal your children in the prime of life to send them off to kill-or-be-killed situations.

The same applies, I believe to all the illegitimate power-grabs of the state. If the government agents steal my money to support (for example) a “universal health care” system, it’s just as immoral as stealing it to support a war against Iran.

The coup Hedges refers to began not on 9/11/01 but before, during and after the 2000 election.  The danger to the very survival of our constitutional democracy and the rule of law is quite stark.  It is embodied in modifications of federal laws and executive orders that provide for a presidential declaration of a national emergency in the event of a new terrorist incident on U.S. soil—a scenario that could see the Bush regime pulling a Musharraf—declaring martial law, closing down the courts and Congress, sending both federal troops and Blackwater to quell any resistance and suspending the next election—all in the name of national security.

Given the ruthlessness of one Richard B. Cheney, this may well explain why, despite how dangerous a move to launch a pre-emptive strike against, the Bush regime is willing to rise to a new level of insanity.

During the last Democratic debate Sen. Biden noted that if the Bush regime launched a pre-emptive strike on Iran it would give rise to impeachment.  Despite the scurrilous effort by Wolf Blitzer to prevent his response, Mr. Kucinich got in his call for impeaching now!  If we wait, as Biden suggests, until after Iran is attacked, it will be too late.  The only way to prevent the putch is to get the impeachment hearings under way—Now!

Quote: “But an attack on Iran—which appears increasingly likely before the coming presidential election—will unleash a regional conflict of catastrophic proportions.”

Amazing that Hedges is writing against an attack on Iran while Scheer is taking the opposite view and is slagging Iran AND suppressing news links to stories on the Saudi Arabian rape issue, uhh

This is a call to patriotism

Its a little too precious of Hedges to only say that in the last couple of days. Last week or last month would have meant something. Now, it has already been “decided” that Pakistan is the main issue, uhh,,,,,,,

I’ve written to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and begged them to “just say no” to Bush.  The only power he has is what people will give him.  He’s just a guy in a suit.  He has no magic fairy dust to carry out his diabolical plans, even if Congress thinks he does.  If the military commanders say simply “We have sworn to defend the Constitution, not you or your insanity,” what can he do?  Fire them?  Replace them?  What if people simply start saying “NO”?  Come on!!  Someone in a position of influence just say “NO!!”

Iraq I mean.

So what was stopping you guys from waging a concsientious objector based tax revolt back when Bush attacked Iran?

Better late than never? I’m afraid its probably way way to late.

Now with QuyTran, chris, and me that’s already three!!
Good job chris.

I tip my hat. With immoral guys like Bush/Cheney I’ll have to do the same.