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Ron Paul:  Iraq War Will Cost $3.5 Trillion

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Posted on Nov 20, 2007
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It’s difficult to fully comprehend the total price tag of the Iraq war, but Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has made some staggering calculations, coming up with a whopping $3.5 trillion—“including ‘hidden costs” such as interest on the money we’re borrowing, and long-term health care for vets. 


Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk:

If $3.5 trillion is the true cost of these military adventures, $11,500 is the amount every man, woman and child in this country pays.  So, a family of four would pay $46,000 just for this war.  This is an especially painful number to me, as the median household income of my constituency in Texas is just $43,000 a year.  In other words, war has cost more than an entire year’s worth of income from each middle class Texas family.

What about the impact of these costs on education, the very thing that so often helps to increase earnings?  $46,000 would cover 90% of the tuition costs to attend a four year public university in Texas for both children in that family of four.  Obviously, it would far outpace the cost of a community college degree, so vital to so many in the workforce.

But, instead of sending kids to college, too often we’re sending them to Iraq , where the best news in a long time is they aren’t killing our men and women as fast as they were last month.

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By Dawood Mamedoff, July 11 at 12:59 pm #
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This war is the second expensive for U.S. after the World War II. Here I’ve tried to summarize all costs of the Iraq war for Americans:


http://www.myhowtoos.com/en/red-hot/86-all-costs-of-war-in-iraq-for-usa

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By Paul_GA, November 21, 2007 at 10:42 am #

Outraged, I became disillusioned with the Repubs back in the late 1990s, when they didn’t try hard enough to stand up to Clinton. Back in May 1999, I read online where Bush got angry at the satirical website gwbush.com for making fun of his alleged cocaine use, and blurted out at a press conference that “there ought to be limits to freedom”; that was when he lost me. America’s problem is not that there’s too much freedom, but not enough.

I voted Libertarian in 2000 and ‘04; I’ll be voting for Ron Paul next year, because I want to be freer than I am now, and with a man like him in the White House, we can begin to recover our freedoms peacefully.

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By 1drees, November 21, 2007 at 9:52 am #
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This Election Americans would be VOTING for a change and SMARTER Americans would be voting to separate themselves from the perpetual warpath America has been on since WW2.
Intresting thing to note is that the politics and power play in USA is such that you just might never know who will do what he/she says, i mean could turn out that everyone votes for a peacenik who later turns out to be another WARRIOR.

RAMPAGE PILLAGE AND PLUNDER WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING IN TRILLIONS BUT TOO BAD THE OPERATION DID NOT GO AS PER THE “WISEMEN"s expectations.

Blessings of the secret societies are all over America.

GOOD LUCK VOTING FOR A “CHANGE”

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By 1drees, November 21, 2007 at 5:10 am #
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WEIRD THING ................ most people still keep evaluating WAR LOSSES in DOLLARS where as I keep seeing the WAR LOSSES as in the MILLIONs of IRAQIs butchered.

I guess some people have money on their mind and then some stupids think of HUMANS.

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By Outraged, November 21, 2007 at 4:17 am #

Ron Paul is a snake in the grass.  He continues to spew the scare tactic rhetoric that Social Security is busted.  It has been proven time and time again that this is not the case.  Yet he spews it…again and again…...and again.  Cheap republican scare tactic.

From Ron Paul’s site:
“When it comes to Social Security and Medicare, the federal government simply won’t be able to keep its promises in the future.  That is the reality every American should get used to, despite the grand promises of Washington reformers.  Our entitlement system can’t be reformed- it’s too late.  And the Medicare prescription drug bill is the final nail in the coffin.”

*That is an out and out lie.

*Ron Paul also claims to know when the life of an unborn child begins and is against ALL abortions.  Since no one in the world “knows” this, it is another out and out lie.  From Ron Paul’s site:

“In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094.”
*Ron Paul also wants “local control” so that he can more easily undermine the separation of church and state.  He seems to feel that localities should be able to usurp the constitution.  The very constitution which he CLAIMS to so vehemently defend.  An example also from Ron Paul’s site:

“With the start of high school football season in the 14th Congressional District, many of my constituents are upset by the fact that a long-held tradition has been taken from them by the federal courts.

This tradition, of course, is a simple, non-proselytizing prayer said shortly before the kick-off.”

*Explain “a non-proselytizing prayer”.  It’s an oxymoron!

Ron Paul on education:
“I want to abolish the unconstitutional, wasteful Department of Education and return its functions to the states. By removing the federal subsidies that inflate costs, schools can be funded by local taxes, and parents and teachers can directly decide how best to allocate the resources.”

Now there’s a real convoluted thinking.  The whole point of federal subsidies was to allocate funds to areas in need so that EVERY child had the opportunity to receive a quality education.  Instead Ron Paul wants the poor areas to stay that way so that not everyone gets the same, typical republican screw the little guy tactic.

Ron Paul also thinks campaign finance reform is terrible.  From Ron Paul’s site:
“In a devastating blow to political speech, the Supreme Court recently upheld most of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill passed by Congress last year.”

The man is a lunatic.  I wouldn’t trust anything he says or does AT ALL.  If you voted for Bush and aren’t happy with the lunatic you have, BY ALL MEANS VOTE FOR RON PAUL.  I guess some people just get off on sadistic creepy republicans.  They just cannot come to gripes with the fact that for the most part their party is a bunch of crooks, liars and creepy degenerates.

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By thomas billis, November 21, 2007 at 4:00 am #
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The moron in chief is probably taking violin lessons so when the whole thing topples over he can do his best impression of Nero.What the hell in his life as one previous commenter noted it will just be one more business failure in a long line of business failures for him.We pay for the war and the oil companies get the oil and then we pay higher pricers for oil.If you missed it the most consistent part of this strategy is “we pay.”

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By G.Anderson, November 21, 2007 at 3:17 am #

I guess that explains why the military is demanding that injured vets refund signing bonuses when they cannot continue to serve and fail to finish their tours.

Anything to save a buck…

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By 911truthdotorg, November 21, 2007 at 1:22 am #

Don Stivers -

Thank you for being one of the very few Republicans with his eyes open and a functioning brain!

I was a lifelong Democrat until Pelosi said “impeachment is off the table”.
I am now an Independent.

Las Vegas crowd roars for Ron Paul

MOLLY BALL
REVIEW-JOURNAL
Tuesday November 20, 2007

Asked why more of his rivals aren’t campaigning in Nevada, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul grinned.

“Maybe they don’t feel confident that their philosophy is attractive to the people of Nevada,” he said, a twinkle in his eye. “I’m very comfortable with the people of Nevada.”

Shortly after making that comment, the puckish Texas congressman strode onto a stage at UNLV to preach his message before a crowd of more than 1,000 people.

As the audience stood, roared and waved signs, many of them handmade, Paul said, “It sounds to me like the spirit of liberty is alive and well in Nevada.”

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By DennisD, November 21, 2007 at 12:14 am #
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I think the $3.5 trillion amount is a conservative estimate that doesn’t fully take into account the exponential devaluation of the dollar under Bu$h Inc.

I will vote for Ron Paul because he’s the lone voice in the wilderness who hasn’t sold out and it’s time we listened.

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By Paolo, November 20, 2007 at 11:36 pm #

Students of history notice that what eventually dooms empires is the sheer cost of maintaining it. This was true with Rome as well as Britain.

Do we want to follow these two empires into bankruptcy? If not, we need to elect Ron Paul—the only candidate who has been consistently anti-war (possible exception: Dennis Kucinich, though he has a track record of bankrupting governments through other means).

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By Nomascerdo, November 20, 2007 at 10:53 pm #

Ron Paul has been speaking out against these foreign interventions since he joined congress back in the 1970’s.  He was warning Congress about the dangers of Osama Bin Laden in speeches he gave in 1998.

On September 14, 2001 he wisely cautioned our leaders against expanding aggression against nations that had nothing to do with the attacks.

I just finished reading his book, A Foreign Policy of Freedom, which is a collection of his speeches to Congress, essays, and petitions over his 10 term career. 

To say that Ron Paul was consistently correct in his analysis of our foreign policy is an understatement.

Anyone that cares to read these speeches they are all available for free at http://www.ronpaullibrary.org

While many might disagree with his positions, I challenge anyone to argue that his analysis, warnings, and corrections for our foreign policy misadventures is wrong. 

Finally, regarding his stances on specific issues, I urge everyone I know to view his ideas in context of his philosophical whole.  Furthermore, nearly every contentious issue, in Ron Paul’s opinion, are to be dealt at the state level.  He has no intention of forcing his view of the world upon everyone.  Rather he prefers that citizens in each state are able to have a referendum on the issues that are the most controversial.  This is the only way that such a diverse nation can provide representative government for all. 

The guy is quite simply spot on on so many issues.  When people call him crazy I can only shake my head and feel my heart sink.  He is one of the most misunderstood people and it truly is sad in my opinion.

Does anyone here really think that anyone other than Ron Paul is going to stop this war?  I met some ladies from Code Pink (including Cindy Sheehan) and they were chanting about how they want to end the war.  I told them the answer is simple, register as a Republican and vote for Ron Paul in the primary and then in the general.  Their response, including Sheehan’s, ‘I would never register as a Republican!’

My response, ‘Then you don’t really care about ending this war.’

Their retort, ‘Well we care about other things than just money and power!’

This coming from Cindy Sheehan and her band of supporters! 

Sad and ironic response considering that Ron Paul is the ONLY person running that will change our foreign policy and I would also argue that out of ALL of the candidates, on both sides, he couldn’t be less interested in money and power or self aggrandizement.

Puke

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 20, 2007 at 10:27 pm #

There are ways to defeat the most powerful military in the world.  One is to hide in the jungle for decades until they finally give up and go home. 

Another is to deplete its treasury. 

We’re such fools!  America brought down by two, soon three, third world countries.  Our leadership is so incredibly inept.

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By mythbreaker, November 20, 2007 at 9:13 pm #
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Joe Lieberman says its good for him and United Technologies. UTX is Lieberman’s pension fund.

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By Paul_GA, November 20, 2007 at 9:02 pm #

Rhonda, I think Dr. Paul is already looking past the primaries and thinking of what he might say in a debate with a Democrat.

I would suggest to any Democrat who cares to debate him that Dr. Paul is not to be underestimated.

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By Don Stivers, November 20, 2007 at 8:52 pm #

RE: ocjim

I am a registered Republican.  I can proudly say that I never voted for this present administration nor for Reagan.

I DID stand on the street corner and screech against this war.  All people could do was tout how good the US of A was and fly the American flag from their car windows. 

Now nobody listens to the few politicians who were right.  I don’t know where it will end, but this country needs to pull out of everywhere and spend our money on infrastructure and people’s needs.

Strutting around is more important to the present President than anything else.  That and saving his own ass from the punishment of War Crimes by placing cronies in positions of the Judicial system that would punish him and others in this corrupt administration.

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By Hammo, November 20, 2007 at 8:30 pm #

It has been said many times by many people ... the Iraq War is very, very similar to the Vietnam War.

We will have huge numbers of damaged vets, damaged national image internationally and regrets of all kinds about this misadventure.

And, like the Vietnam era, now that most Americans realize the deceptions, war profiteering, mistakes and incompetence ... it will still take years to withdraw.

Years of blood and resources that could have been used for positive, constructive purposes.

Related views in the article ...

“Americans felt turning points on Vietnam, Iraq wars in ‘70, ‘07”

American Chronicle
July 11, 2007

http://americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=31984

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By ocjim, November 20, 2007 at 6:18 pm #

Where were these opportunistic alarmists regarding war costs when neocons bullied everyone else into this deadly failure. Those who protested the war were unceremoniously quieted with the full power of the law, the media, the bully pulpit and suppression by neighbors. You didn’t even talk negatively about the war until just a few years ago.

So don’t let some opportunistic candidate decry the cost of the war unless he was out on a street corner in 2001 on as a dissenter.

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By Rhonda, November 20, 2007 at 4:12 pm #
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Ron Paul is correct about the staggering costs of the Mideast wars.  Most American families don´t have near the financial means to begin to cover those costs.  Did it just occur to him?

Why does he deride Democrats, who he says want to tax and create social programs that will be desperately needed when the financial burdens become too overwhelming?  WHO DID HE THINK WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WAR ANYWAY?

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By don knutsen, November 20, 2007 at 3:16 pm #

Bu$h must be very happy indeed….After failing in every buisness venture leading up his monarchy, he has finally topped everyone else in delivering the largest debt imaginable to our nation. Whats most disturbing is that this is about money, add to that the human costs for us and the Iraqi people and the factoid that the shrub and cheney will never be held accountable.

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By jkoch, November 20, 2007 at 12:52 pm #
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A mere $3.5 trillion?  Better that, plus the cost of war against Iran, than to alter our energy sources or conserve.  Viva Exxon.  Viva GM.  It’s a good thing that our media marginalizes Paul, Kucinich, and other loonies.  It’s also nice that we don’t have to pay taxes for the costs, just so long as good ole China keeps buying our IOUs.  So let’s just spend, spend, spend.  Yes, a sweet spot it is.

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By john, November 20, 2007 at 12:36 pm #
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Ron Paul for Pres. =)

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