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White House, Musharraf at Odds Over Emergency Rule

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Posted on Nov 3, 2007

As Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf struggles to maintain power in his country, The Washington Post goes behind the scenes to look at the Bush administration’s wobbly relations with Musharraf, whom Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was unable to dissuade from imposing emergency rule.


The Washington Post:

The United States now finds itself with few good options and dwindling power to influence events in the nuclear-armed state, particularly because experts believe Musharraf’s actions may have ensured his demise as a national leader. The Bush administration has given Pakistan $10 billion in aid since 2001—much of it military assistance—and U.S. officials had warned that Congress may balk at continuing aid if emergency powers were invoked. But some analysts cautioned that if the United States is perceived as withdrawing support for Musharraf, it may increase the risk of a civil war and the shattering of Pakistan.

Rice, who called Musharraf on Friday and warned him against taking this step, said yesterday [Saturday] that Musharraf’s actions are “highly regrettable,” telling reporters traveling with her that “the United States has made clear it does not support extra-constitutional measures, because those measures would take Pakistan away from the path of democracy and civilian rule.”

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By P. T., November 5, 2007 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

THE LATEST IS THAT BUSH IS SUPPORTING THE CRACKDOWN

The New York Times reports senior Pakistani officials say the White House reaction has been “muted” and that they don’t expect “real consequences.” Neither President Bush nor any senior U.S. official has called Musharraf to voice protest. Pakistani information minister Tariq Azim Khan said: “They would rather have a stable Pakistan—albeit with some restrictive norms—than have more democracy prone to fall in the hands of extremists. Given the choice, I know what our friends would choose.”

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment

#111663 by boggs on 11/04 at 6:08 pm: “...our administration can see other countries with their eyes wide open, but are blinded by rose colored glasses when running their own affairs…... meddeling in the affairs of others but no time to fix anything at home…”

This , in a word, is FOCUS. The problem is that they have a sapping duality of focus but a more single-minded one on their own holding onto power in the White House, uhh.

Now, to get a candidate who has a single-minded focus on improving things and helping people, you have to vote for .......!

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By boggs, November 4, 2007 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment

Funny how our administration can see other countries with their eyes wide open, but are blinded by rose colored glasses when running their own affairs.
Why do they have so much time for meddeling in the affairs of others but no time to fix anything at home?
The animal farm is busy making us safe.

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By lawlessone, November 4, 2007 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
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With Pakistani President Musharraf declaring Marshall Law and suspending the Constitution, we can only his his bosom buddy Bush doesn’t get any ideas.

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By P. T., November 4, 2007 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

It’s amusing when the U.S. tries to fire some foreign ruler that it previously backed, but the guy won’t leave.

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By P. T., November 4, 2007 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

It’s amusing when the U.S. tries to fire some foreign ruler that it previously backed, but the guy won’t leave.

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By RAE, November 4, 2007 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

I suppose it’s of little consequence to remind the Bush Administration that Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, etc., are NOT part of the USA and therefore the internal affairs of these countries are not under it’s jurisdiction.

Ms. Rice’s popping up before the microphones in foreign lands declaring what the USA “approves of” and what it doesn’t is an affront to every nation on the planet. She looks and sounds arrogant and ridiculous. Can you IMAGINE the reception if some other country’s foreign minister started blathering that his/her country doesn’t approve of the USA’s decisions/actions?

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By mary, November 4, 2007 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment

What the hell is this woman drinking.  Just when you think things can’t get any more ridiculous…..

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By P. T., November 4, 2007 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment

Looks like perhaps U.S. imperialism wants to replace Pervez Musharraf with Benazir Bhutto, but that Musharraf is not too keen on going.

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By 911truthdotorg, November 4, 2007 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

The monster chimp is probably jealous that Pervez did it before he had a chance to.

We’ll be seeing this same thing before Jan 20, 2009

Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition, 9/11 Mysteries, Terror Storm, Zeitgeist

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_richard__071103_former_high_level_of.htm

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

#111566 by Verne Arnold on 11/04 at 6:24 am: “...I loved the movie Syriana…in a way it’s my bible for understanding the middle east….”

The hard thing to understand about the M.East is the American and European view of it, uhh. Most of the people there are really quite nice….. it is, after all, where most of Western civilisation came from.

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By DennisD, November 4, 2007 at 8:03 am Link to this comment
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“Musharraf, whom Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was unable to dissuade from imposing emergency rule.”

These f**king Neocons think they can tell everyone else what to do. Bu$h Inc. is singularly responsible for the mess the world is in right now and as it continues to spin out of control with consequences for everyone the Neocons couldn’t have possibly envisioned coming to fruition they don’t have a clue.

Rice is worse than useless since she opens her mouth every now and then and utters more inane bullshit. Her very position is an insult to the Arab world. For them to be told by a woman what they should and shouldn’t due is incomprehensible. Bu$h Inc.‘s grasp of the world and its politics continues to amaze for the lack of it.

Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump

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By Verne Arnold, November 4, 2007 at 7:24 am Link to this comment

#111534 by Douglas Chalmers on 11/04 at 2:36 am
(1064 comments total)

By the way….I loved the movie Syriana…in a way it’s my bible for understanding the middle east.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 4, 2007 at 7:22 am Link to this comment

Bush is just jealous because Musharaff declared Martial Law and suspension the Constitution first.

It makes it a little harder for President Mussolini to do the same thing here, in the US.

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By Verne Arnold, November 4, 2007 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

#111534 by Douglas Chalmers on 11/04 at 2:36 am
(1064 comments total)

#111533 by Verne Arnold on 11/04 at 2:18 am: “...we continually… have charged into “situations” we do not understand and thereby makes ourselves out to be the fools we in fact are….”

Speaking Syriana:-

Iran could have been the ally which would have prevented this and solved the problem with the Taleban…..

This now starts a war with India - but which side will the uSA foolishly take? Or, will they use India to attack Pakistan…...

If the Taleban/Al Qaeada sieze power, there could be a war between Pakistan and Iran as well - but Russia will become involved!

If there is a war between India and Pakistan, China will become involved - both have borders with China.

Ah, my point exactly….who?  either way we’re screwed, our duplicity will be our undoing!
Peace, hahahahahahahahahaha…..............

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By Gerald Vest, November 4, 2007 at 6:56 am Link to this comment
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Unfortunately, the US has no credibility anywhere in the world since the “R’s” took power and became a country that uses torture and suspends our Constitutional rights whenever it wants. We are now a country of presidential decree, so how different are we. Our Supreme Court is now owned by corporate America like Congress and most of our Departments that were designed to provide services, balance and over-sight.

Don’t you think that most Americans and our former allies believe that Bush and Cheney are planning to bomb Iran and anyone else who gets in their way?

Impeach this whole administration so that we can protect our country and our global community!!!

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By cyrena, November 4, 2007 at 4:33 am Link to this comment

“the United States has made clear it does not support extra-constitutional measures, because those measures would take Pakistan away from the path of democracy and civilian rule.”

Verne, you noted the same (or nearly the same) passage that just JUMPED RIGHT OUT at me!! Except, you’re just being all politically correct, and saying….

•  This is a curious statement;

Yep, I’ll say it is, but I nearly laughed out loud, thinking of it far more as one of the most hypocritical statements that Condi the Rice has managed in at least 2 days…

Think about is, the United States DOES NOT SUPPORT –EXTRA-CONSTITUTIONAL MEASURES!!! Well shit!! They sure could’ve fooled ME!! Or, does this mean the US doesn’t support extra-constitutional measures in PAKISTAN, but hey…no problem here at home!! Somebody please tell me what HASN’T been extra-constitutional around these here parts/states?

And WAIT!! THEN she says it’s because “it would take Pakistan away from the path of democracy and civilian rule.” Now THAT she would KNOW!! Oh yeah, who’s the perfect MODEL for that? Uh huh. She might not know a damn thing else, but she sure knows all about how extra-constitutional measures lead away from any pre-conceived notions of democracy and civilian rule!!! Didn’t she help write the book? (well, maybe not).

Anyway, I can’t believe she said this stuff, (on her trip to or from Israel – a regular frequent flyer to the Middle East, and always a favorite in Israel since that’s probably the only place her plane is allowed to land). Then again, of course I can believe it. The ‘highly regrettable’ stuff is standard phony fare for her. But, I do love the word play. She “warns” Musharraf, (but apparently didn’t threaten to beat his brains out, like Douglas said she did with Maliki) and then she says that “The United States has made it clear…” blah, blah. Well, I guess the United States didn’t make it “clear enough”. Either that, or maybe they just don’t take her all that seriously in that part of the world. (or anywhere outside the West Wing of the White House, and even then, only every other Tuesday).

Gee, do you think she has ANY idea of how totally irrelevant she is to anyone who even might be listening? Well, I guess the reporters were.

Ah yes Verne my dear, very curious indeed. wink

Ok, I promise a vow of silence for at least 2 hours…

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 3:45 am Link to this comment

#111533 by Verne Arnold on 11/04 at 2:18 am: “...Rice, who called Musharraf on Friday and warned him against taking this step, said yesterday that Musharraf’s actions are “highly regrettable,” ......This is a curious statement; every time Pakistan gets in any proximity to democracy something happens and democracy goes south….”

Pakistan is not far from the Straits of Hormuz, Verne.

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 3:36 am Link to this comment

#111533 by Verne Arnold on 11/04 at 2:18 am: “...we continually… have charged into “situations” we do not understand and thereby makes ourselves out to be the fools we in fact are….”

Speaking Syriana:-

Iran could have been the ally which would have prevented this and solved the problem with the Taleban…..

This now starts a war with India - but which side will the uSA foolishly take? Or, will they use India to attack Pakistan…...

If the Taleban/Al Qaeada sieze power, there could be a war between Pakistan and Iran as well - but Russia will become involved!

If there is a war between India and Pakistan, China will become involved - both have borders with China.

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By Verne Arnold, November 4, 2007 at 3:18 am Link to this comment

Boy, do we live in interesting times.  So far everything Bush has touched has turned to shit…sort of a reverse “Midas Touch”. 

Now we are in bed with the single most dangerous nuclear power on the planet.  I just can’t quite wrap my mind around why Musharraf has allowed himself to be bullied by Bush.  Reports have said we told him we’ll bomb the crap out of him if he doesn’t cooperate…maybe…but why didn’t he just say “if you do, I’ll nuke India!” 
It does appear we have de-stabilized far more than the Middle East (the world?).

“Rice, who called Musharraf on Friday and warned him against taking this step, said yesterday that Musharraf’s actions are “highly regrettable,” telling reporters traveling with her that “the United States has made clear it does not support extra-constitutional measures, because those measures would take Pakistan away from the path of democracy and civilian rule.””

This is a curious statement; every time Pakistan gets in any proximity to democracy something happens and democracy goes south.

We are consistent however…we continually (for the past 50 years) have charged into “situations” we do not understand and thereby makes ourselves out to be the fools we in fact are.  “American Foreign Policy” is an oxymoron!  We are foreign interventionists, imperialists, and neo-colonialists…sorry for the redundancy.

The only thing that makes sense to me is: This is all intentional and it has been the game plan all along…the final goal is the fascist takeover of the world largest nuclear arsenal and military power.  Mussolini himself said that “fascism is nothing more than corporatism”. 

So, who will bring us to ground?  We are now a government of admitted war criminals………..who will bring justice for the many crimes and the criminals who committed them?

Pakistan is only the latest “ally” to spin out of control.  How scary when the generals have full control of the nukes?

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 1:57 am Link to this comment

By the way, I got an “ads by Google” promoted ad for a military weapons electronics supplier - http://www.prime-power.com/ - on this Truthdig page!?!?

Quote: “Isn’t it always the way? You’re under the gun on an immoveable deadline. The project’s almost finished. And then you find out that the power supply still hasn’t been designed…”

Typical American don’t-know-how/ no-can-do, ha ha!

Also quote: ” Woman-Owned Small Business”

Ohmigod, is this Dianne Feinstein, California - the ‘other’ senator???

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By Douglas Chalmers, November 4, 2007 at 1:50 am Link to this comment

#”...The Bush administration must now start “from the premise that he’s gone, whether the people chuck him out or the military chucks him out,” said Xenia Dormandy, who until last year was the National Security Council’s director for South Asia. “I would be very surprised if he lasts even six months….”

This is code for fomenting a military coup. The result, then, will be an even worse dictator! Or a fundamentalist backlash as happened against the US puppet in Iran…...


#”...Dormandy faulted the Bush administration for sending “mixed messages” to Musharraf in recent months, allowing him to believe he could weather the fallout from a declaration of emergency powers….”

Same game as with Saddam and Kuwait, uhh!?!? So original .....and reliable as allies…..


#”...A number of Pakistan experts said the situation is too fluid for predictions. “I don’t know what’s going to happen,” Cohen said. “I don’t think any Pakistan expert knows what will happen even tomorrow….”

Incompetent US state department has all but handed Pakistan to the Taleban (former US allies from Afghanistan) and Al Qaeada (which hardly existed before) - and, in turn, has handed them potential access to “the Islamic bomb” before too long as well!

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