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Bush Cronies Defend TorturePosted on Oct 31, 2007CIA Chief Michael Hayden has issued a passionate defense of extraordinary rendition, claiming that the practice, which so often involves abduction and torture, is justified by the “irreplaceable” intelligence it produces. Meanwhile, President Bush’s preferred successor to loyal henchman Alberto Gonzales refuses to call torture by its name, though he claims to find it “repugnant.”
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By mike didj, October 31, 2007 at 8:47 pm # Sounds like the authorities will be using the water boarding interrogation technique on Prince Harry and his friends concerning the shooting of 2 extremely rare birds of prey on his estate in England. Story can be found at <http://bardosurfer.blogspot.com>
By Eric L Prentis, October 31, 2007 at 9:41 am # Why do President Bush, VP Cheney and Republican party members think that waterboarding and other physically painful torture techniques are OK? (such as stripping the clothes from prisoners and holding them in frigid temperatures, making prisoners stand in painful positions for long periods of time, physically beating prisoners about the head and sleep deprivation of prisoners for very long periods of time). All of these torture techniques were called the “third degree” by the Gestapo and many of their agents on film have been known to say, “We have ways to make you talk,” which made everyone in the US audience hate them and what the fascist Nazis stood for. The torture of prisoners is counter productive, like much of the Bush Administration, it did not help the Nazis or Stalin win and the torture of prisoners will not help the US win either. It is time again to become a civilized country, throw the tortures out.
By kevin99999, October 31, 2007 at 9:24 am # Yes, I saw his interview with the right wing psycophant Charlie Rose and had the microphone all to himself on this topic. Charlie Rose was busy shaking his head in agreement.
By Ryan F, October 31, 2007 at 9:10 am # The only problem for me with America and torture is that they’re being hypocritical. If they’re going to try to publicize a moral highground that doesn’t exist, then they need to stop torturing. But I for one don’t have a problem with using the techniques they use in order to gain information. It’s not like you can just play nice with suspected terrorists and enemy combatants. They’re not going to be open and honest with our military, so in order to save lives we need to do whatever we can. It’s a matter of economics: if you can save more lives by using waterboarding and aural assault/light deprivation, then by all means do it. War is ugly and the methods we are using are a lot better than the enemy, that’s for sure. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t have to use such methods, but in a perfect world we wouldn’t have the need to use them.
By writeon, October 31, 2007 at 6:57 am # Well, here we go again. This issue of what exactly constitutes torture keeps coming back to haunt the Bush administration. When the Republicans, or maybe we should rename them the Republicnots, claim that the Democrats are just “playing politics” about this issue, the Demomcrats should counter agressively by stating than on the contrary, they are not “playing” anything, this is “real politics” about concrete, real-world subjects, like should a democracy be resorting to the use of water torture on terrorist suspects? And the fact that these victims are still only suspects is of vital importance. Are we to condone the use of torture on men who haven’t been charged or even tried and are therefore still innocent? Leaving aside the massive moral and legal implications of using torture, there’s also the question of can a functioning democracy really use torture in a systematic and routine manner and still remain a democracy? Then, if one’s tired of morality and human-rights, there’s the question of efficacy, does torture even work? What’s the real, hard, evidence that imposing massive and life-threatening physical pain, get’s results? That stupid programme “24” sets up ridiculous scenarios to justify torture, but the real world is of course far more complicated. Torture is the fascists short-cut to making the world simple and even managable, but it’s an illusion and a very dangerous one. Let’s have an open debate by a senate commitee into whether there’s any real evidence that torture works and get this whole dirty subject out into the open! Let’s drag the torture chamber, and the methods used, and the men who applied torture, and the victims of torture, out into the sunlight and examine this whole rationally for a change!
By thomas billis, October 31, 2007 at 4:07 am # I am not in favor of torture.Irreplaceable intelligence over losing the hearts and minds of over 1 billion moslems.Moreover all this spooky we cannot tell you what we learned but trust us it is really valuable.Outing a covert CIA operative for purely no political reasons no problem.But to give one example of how something so repugnant to the American people benefits them that is classified.If it was not so sad it would comical.Mark my words if we are hit again it will be because we did not torture enough and the Democrats will go right along with it.Hillary will be leading the band.
By rodney, October 31, 2007 at 3:49 am # Somebody has to take a stand George Bush should not be allow to continue to torture. The Congress must stop him. To redefine torture to suit their purpose goes against the Constitutions cruel and unusual punishment, and the Geneva Convention.George Bush is a man who believes that laws and rules apply only to other people and other countries. He has no morals or ethics. He believes that he can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants.Whether it’s starting a illegal war,killing innocent people,giving billions of tax dollars to his friends,lying to the world and the American people and calling ,detaining and torturing anyone who doesn’t agree with him a terrorist. Bush is a mini-Hitler. The only thing that stops him from trying to become a full blown dictator is the fact that he would finally lose the few Republican lapdogs he has left and he would be impeached,jailed and tried for war crimes. Make no mistake about it,Bush is a madman and a war criminal. Unfortunately because of 9-11 America don’t have the stomach or guts to give Bush the same punishment that the Iraqi people gave Saddam. America is just waiting for the next election hoping that Bush would just hurry up and go away. Add Your Comment |
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