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Bush Wants Even More Money for the Wars

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Posted on Oct 22, 2007
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The White House’s latest request ($46 billion) for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was greeted with fighting words by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: “President Bush should not expect Congress to rubber-stamp his latest supplemental request. We’re not going to do that.” For those keeping track at home, Bush has now asked for $196.4 billion so far for the budget year that began in October.


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President Bush asked Congress on Monday for another $46 billion to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and finance other national security needs. “We must provide our troops with the help and support they need to get the job done,” Bush said.

The figure brings to $196.4 billion the total requested by the administration for operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere for the budget year that started Oct. 1. It includes $189.3 billion for the Defense Department, $6.9 billion for the State Department and $200 million for other agencies.

To date, Congress has already provided more than $455 billion for the Iraq war, with stepped-up military operations running about $10 billion a month. The war has claimed the lives of more than 3,830 members of the U.S. military and more than 73,000 Iraqi civilians.

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By BadMan, October 23, 2007 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment

#109048 by Scott on 10/23 at 12:37 pm
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I seriously doubt whether today’s American taxpayers have contributed a single dime towards the war on Iraq. They’re probably still paying for the war on Vietnam.

VERY FUNNY, And at the same time very sad, because what you are saying is sooo true, in the sense that our grandchildren and their children will be paying off this war while their governments rack up debt for future generations, and so it goes. That is life during the reign of the United States Empire.

luckily, it looks like the farther things go, the weaker the US seems, sooner rather than later this madness will come to an end. I just hope it doesn’t take nuclear war to teach the imperialists you can’t kill a dream and you can’t silence the truth. And cause and effect will eventually prevail.

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By joey, October 23, 2007 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment
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No more money until you can come up with a believable
reason for continuing the war.

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By Scott, October 23, 2007 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

The American taxpayer continues to subsidize an unjust military occupation and is powerless to stop it. If this is not Vietnam revisited I don’t know what is.
loveinatub

I seriously doubt whether today’s American taxpayers have contributed a single dime towards the war on Iraq. They’re probably still paying for the war on Vietnam.

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By rowdy, October 23, 2007 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

thermonuclear holocaust.planet wide. end all human life. it would be glorious.

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By Norm, October 23, 2007 at 11:35 am Link to this comment
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I’m shocked, SHOCKED that Bush wants more money for his wars and none for Child Health! Harry Reid won’t rubber stamp Bush’s request? I don’t care what he calls it, he’ll whine then bring it untouched to the floor where it will sail through.

We need a clause added to the effect that the $ can only be spent opn protecting the troops while they’re being brought home, then let the Repubs fight it out. There must be more dems with spines that Russ Feilgold and Cris Dodd!

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By mackTN, October 23, 2007 at 11:32 am Link to this comment

Cyrena is so right:“What’s he gonna do, if we say NO! Think the troops will have it any worse than they already do? I doubt it. This money isn’t being spent on them, and anybody who’s been there, (including the troops and especially the troops) KNOWS that it isn’t being spent on them. We know it too.”

I would be quite interested in a specific description of the distribution of these monies.  From various govt docs, I know much of this money goes to various factions & perhaps other governments whom the U.S. has implored to take the refugees that we won’t admit.  And of course the Iran project….

No wonder we can’t get a prescription drug or health care benefit, improved schools, etc.  Where is the accounting for these funds? 

Iraq will never be our ally.  The country views us as most occupied countries do their colonizers.  Bush has f—-ed the pooch big time and this money is his desperate attempt to cover up and make a case for a losing proposition. 

Most painful is the lack of truth emerging from press reports about this war, a press that perpetuates the deception. We’ll never have enough troops in Iraq to establish anything by might, and nothing will be gained politically by the maliki govt.  The fortress/embassy—Alamo—is much like the position of Israel in the midst of hostile neighbors.  But oh that oil….

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By mary, October 23, 2007 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

It’s time to call Pelosi’s office again -202-225-0100.  One of these days this Congress is going to see the writing on the wall.  But in the mean time, let’s all call.  I’m not sure she can count that high, but she might start to figure out she has no support out here.  With so many Repukes retiring, maybe it’s time to put the bug in Nancy’s ear that her days are numbered and it’s time for her to go…...

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By rodney, October 23, 2007 at 9:54 am Link to this comment
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My guess is that Bush will get every penny he asks for.The Democrats will back down to keep the war Bushes war. They are afraid of the spin machine mouthpieces of Limbaugh.Hannity,Coulter and all of the other fear and warmongers that permeate America’s airwaves. This war was lost on moral grounds beginning with the first lie.Then Bush lost it militarily by not leaving after Saddam was removed. The real lie is Bush never wants us to leave. In his mind we took it it’s ours. That’s how bullies and children act. So the question becomes do the the Democrats act like responsible adults and give Iraq back? Or act like the selfish child bully who call himself the Decider and keep Iraq for all of his corporate money grubbing friends of Halliburton,Bechtel,Exxon,Blackwater,and Israel.

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By loveinatub, October 23, 2007 at 9:34 am Link to this comment

If the democrats would simply unite and agree to stop funding for the Iraqi occupation, this “war” would be over!

Why can’t the democrats stop approval for anymore funding of the Iraqi occupation??  Because they are complicit in this war and don’t want to stop it. The Democrats are a failure and Pelosi should get most of the blame as she continues to support funding of this occupation.

The American taxpayer continues to subsidize an unjust military occupation and is powerless to stop it. If this is not Vietnam revisited I don’t know what is. I’ve never felt so powerless living in a so-called “democracy” where I feel my opinion simply doesn’t matter. Pelos is my representative and she doesn’t represent my view on the Iraqi occupation. I’m a neutered American citizen in a democracy sold to the highest bidder.

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By Mudwollow, October 23, 2007 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

The problem is we are not spending enough money in Iraq. If we want to win this war, or police action or whatever it’s being called, we need to spend at least $20 billion per month. It’s only money and we can all cut back a bit on things like food and health care to help fund George Bush’s noble crusade.

Anyone who does not support President Bush 100% is a radical terrorist evildoer and should consider themselves and their families lucky if they’re only tortured to within an inch of their lives.

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By vajara, October 23, 2007 at 8:38 am Link to this comment
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Let him get it from Halliberton and his other friends who are making great profits off this war. What about taxing the petrolium corporations. How about asking his friends in the middle east to fund “their” war.

Enough is enough…no more funding for war. Bring the troops home now.

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By Douglas Chalmers, October 23, 2007 at 7:25 am Link to this comment

The Voice of free Iraq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RSjMn2DoDQ

No wonder the women there have to wear those black sacks….. or do they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh6XfzGvPUo

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By Verne Arnold, October 23, 2007 at 6:19 am Link to this comment

#108909 by Marshall on 10/22 at 11:51 pm
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Marshall, go suck an egg!

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By Douglas Chalmers, October 23, 2007 at 5:59 am Link to this comment

Ha ha, ha ha, guess what I want for Christmas?!?!
Enough money to start World War f#&#xki;n’ 3!!!
Santa “Eagle’s Claws” loves to spill your blood….
(Typical white Texan idiot!)

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By hippy pam, October 23, 2007 at 4:18 am Link to this comment

DEAR BUSH*T,Do you realize how much money you would have available for health care,repair and reclamation of burnt and abandoned properties,education and training for and in our schools,securing our borders and all the other problems that plague OUR OWN COUNTRY if you weren’t wasting American resources on YOUR WAR?HEY-AMERICA-JUST SAY “NO” TO BUSH*T!!!!!

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By cyrena, October 23, 2007 at 3:17 am Link to this comment

#108909 by Marshall

I’ll disagree right here Marshall. The moron probably isn’t making up the numbers, but somebody is. And, this is SUPPLEMANTAL to the budget. If the moron can’t include these costs in a buget, (which would of course be denied) when he’s been planning and playing these wars for over 5 years, (been six in Afghanistan) then we aren’t ‘fooled’ anymore.

What’s he gonna do, if we say NO! Think the troops will have it any worse than they already do? I doubt it. This money isn’t being spent on them, and anybody who’s been there, (including the troops and especially the troops) KNOWS that it isn’t being spent on them. We know it too.

So, that would be my question. Suppose they just don’t have any more money for Afghanistan OR Iraq? Think Cheney might finally realize that THIS well has run dry, and start dipping into his own island of bucks?

I doubt it. No more money? I guess the troops will have to come home. I’ll spring for that.

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By Marshall, October 23, 2007 at 12:51 am Link to this comment

The posters here are missing a couple of important facts: 1) Bush doesn’t make up these numbers; these are the amounts requested by the military to deal with the ongoing war costs.  Things like fixing and redeploying equipment, and supplying the troops with arms and equipment.  2) These numbers include the costs for Afghanistan and everyone here has failed to make a distinction between it and Iraq.

If you want to argue that we should pull out of Iraq immediately, then go ahead.  That would be a huge mistake, but there’s certainly a credible argument for it.

But if you’re not making that argument, then you have little credibility in criticizing these requests for war funding.

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By Bluestocking, October 22, 2007 at 10:04 pm Link to this comment
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What I want to know is…why the hell hasn’t the GAO made more of an effort to put the Bush administration’s feet in the fire and hold them accountable for where all this money’s going?  Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that supposed to be their JOB?!?  If the CEO of a major corporation spent money with this sort of profligacy without being able to demonstrate exactly where it was going and what it was used for, he’d have been handed his “golden parachute” years ago (guess this only serves to explain why Dubya’s previous business efforts were failures, huh?) Where’s all this money supposed to come from, anyway?  One thing’s for damn sure…it can’t all be coming from tax revenues (remember the tax cuts?)  Bring in less and spend more…[sarcasm] yeah, THAT’ll work![/sarcasm].  Good grief…would someone, *ANYONE*, please find a way to put a leash on Dubya?!?  If he keeps this up for much longer, he’s going to bankrupt us all.

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By rage, October 22, 2007 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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Tell the Chimperor hell no! Hasn’t this rascal wasted enough money? Make him the lame duck he should have been after the Dims took both the Congress and the Senate last year. Come on, Dims. This one is easy. JUST SAY HELL EMPHATICALLY NO!

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By don knutsen, October 22, 2007 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment
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Look at this idiot’s past….Every venture he entered into was basically the same. Get bank rolled by some of daddy’s friends, run the buisness into the ground thru incredible neglegence , get bailed out by some of daddy’s friend’s again and take the money and run. He’s been consistant, looting our nation’s future is the extension of just more of the same. He hasn’t the capacity to learn, dosen’t have to, he can communicate directly with god on his super secret gold phone with diamond encrusted steer horns. The guy is dellusional and the scheming of cheney continues.

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By waxman, October 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

BUSH ACTS LIKE A SPOILED 5YR OLD BRAT HAVING A FIT WANTING MOMMY TO BUY HIM SOMETHING…...GET WISE CONGRESS, WHIP HIS ASS AND SIT HIM IN THE CORNER…..PLEASE, OH PLEASE…...

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By Rune, October 22, 2007 at 6:04 pm Link to this comment

Say, wasn’t this Bush character the one who used to say that he thought the American people, rather than the government, should be making the spending decisions because they do a much better job of it?  I guess he has proved the point many times over by now.  Enough already!

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By rangertommy, October 22, 2007 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment

Wow.  Harry Reid’s words are really something to hang our hats on.  I feel so hopeful all of a sudden.  Everything’ll be different now.  Yep…the wars are as good as over, now that he’s registered his outrage.  Get out the tickertape…they’re coming home.  This time, he really means it.  I can tell.  Oh yeah…this time it’s for real.  Yep…

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By QuyTran, October 22, 2007 at 5:52 pm Link to this comment

Just give him a blank check so he’ll be able to buy more bloods from our troops and innocent people !

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By cyrena, October 22, 2007 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment

#108848 by purplewolf


•  Especially with his comments about WWIII,and with Dicko planning on the Iranian war,it is time to cut the purse strings/money bags from other countries. I am surprised that they still continue to loan money for this madness.

Puplewolf,

The sentence of your comment is based on normal/rational/conservative/prudent thinking. Yes, it DOES seem like these other countries would be hesitant to continuing loaning. BUT…think of it in normal loan shark mentality. Think about these “Pay Day Loans” and other very predatory loan practices that prevail right here in the US, generally preying upon the already economically deprived. You’re desperate, and you can’t get money anywhere else, so you borrow at 27% interest, or 300% interest, and basically, they own you. If you don’t repay it all at once, you just get deeper and deeper and deeper into them. And, eventually, they OWN you, and you can never pay it back.

Well, these other countries have no problems ‘owning’ us. Matter of fact, it no doubt DELIGHTS them…China, anywhere else that we borrow heavily. They love it. And, let’s see, who else? Well, Saudi Arabia is heavily invested here as well. So, what happens when we can’t pay it back? They foreclose on us. Will they foreclose on George or Dick? Nope. They aren’t spending any of their own personal money, just ours. By the time that happens, they’ll be long gone, and we will be…well, you get the plan.

So no, these countries don’t mind a bit, not any more than the loan shark minds loaning, when he knows he can extort you indefinitely….Extortionists LOVE compulsive gamblers and similar addicts.

And, the little shitass george, has this down pat. He’s been demanding money from everybody, forever. He starts oil companies, they fail, somebody either bails him out, or the investors take it in the shorts. In other words, they lose. But, the Shitass has never had to repay any of that, and never needed to be accountable, just like he won’t be here, if we continue to give him the money, knowing he’ll never pay it back. And China knows he won’t pay it back either, (because we can’t) but they’ll just take it out in trade. (like they’ve been doing). And, they will own us, (pretty much like they already do).

So, george extorts US, (via Congress) to pay the loan sharks, (whomever they might be), and when it comes time to pay up, George is long gone. So, these countries will continue to loan, (until they see it time to quit or call in their markers) and if Congress actually gives up the money this time, (these other billions…and it’s ALL ‘supplemental”, because NONE of this is included in the budget, (which is another trillion or so) and there we have it.

So, get out your maps/charts/globes/whatever, and pick a place, -any place- and get your bags packed. Beat the crowd. South America is looking pretty good. Chavez seems to be working his own resources pretty well, and he’s at least still got some. Besides, it’s pretty there. Just need to work on your Spanish. (or, at least I do).

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By KenDen, October 22, 2007 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

I don’t even know what to say any more.  I write to my congressmen - it does no good.  I write letters to the editor - it does no good.  I write posts to places like Truthdig - it does no good. I’ve been to anti war marches - it does no good. The AHs running this country keep getting more and more money for their stupid war.  And what is more frightening, is that they want to extend the war to Iran.  Just think of how much more money these AHs are going to ask for when that shit hits the fan.

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By purplewolf, October 22, 2007 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment

Does it ever end? Where the hell does he think the money comes from. Bu$hit has borrowed over a trillion dollars so far from other countries for this madness and yet it is never enough. It is well past time to say no. Especially with his comments about WWIII,and with Dicko planning on the Iranian war,it is time to cut the purse strings/money bags from other countries. I am surprised that they still continue to loan money for this madness.

This disaster of a duo has proven time and again they are not responsible with other peoples money and lives. The dimmos had better grow that backbone in a hurry. The money from October 1st must be gone as boy Georgie is asking for more, 3 weeks after he was handed next years $$.Conservative my ass.

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By CHARLIE KASNICK, October 22, 2007 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment
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MAKE BUSH PUT HIS WARS INTO THE BUDGET!,NOT IN THE BUDGET IT DOESNT GET ANY MONEY.THE WARS GONE ON SOO LONG,THEY KNOW APROX WHAT OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
THE JUST DONT WANT TO SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT THE COST OF THE REPUBLICAN LED WARS IS.NO PICTURES OF DEAD OR WOUNDED VETS,NO ACCOUNTING FOR WAR COSTS,
NO INVESTIGATIONS ON WAR PROFITERS.
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By thomas billis, October 22, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment
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Why do the Democrats do this dance of death with Pres Bush.If he asked for their lunch money they would give it to him and go home to their mothers crying.What a shame they will not let the Democrats look at the polls and as it turns out the bully they are afraid is as bullies always are all bark and no bite.

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