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Secret Torture Memos Shame Justice Dept.

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Posted on Oct 3, 2007

In 2005, the Justice Department issued two secret opinions on torture that endorsed and protected the administration’s desire to use physically and psychologically traumatizing interrogation techniques. Then-Deputy Attorney General James Comey reportedly warned his colleagues that they would be “ashamed” when their work became public.

New York Times:

[Then-Attorney General Alberto] Gonzales approved the legal memorandum on “combined effects” over the objections of James B. Comey, the deputy attorney general, who was leaving his job after bruising clashes with the White House. Disagreeing with what he viewed as the opinion’s overreaching legal reasoning, Mr. Comey told colleagues at the department that they would all be “ashamed” when the world eventually learned of it.

Later that year, as Congress moved toward outlawing “cruel, inhuman and degrading” treatment, the Justice Department issued another secret opinion, one most lawmakers did not know existed, current and former officials said. The Justice Department document declared that none of the C.I.A. interrogation methods violated that standard.

The classified opinions, never previously disclosed, are a hidden legacy of President Bush’s second term and Mr. Gonzales’s tenure at the Justice Department, where he moved quickly to align it with the White House after a 2004 rebellion by staff lawyers that had thrown policies on surveillance and detention into turmoil.

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By John Hanks, October 7, 2007 at 7:25 am #
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They torture them so that we will know that they will torture us.  Torture is a form of terrorism.  Information isn’t that important.

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By bc41, October 6, 2007 at 8:35 pm #
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It is ridiculous that they are defining what torture is, should they not be citing court decisions that pertain to war crimes and torture.  I think they’re just trying to sound tough as idiots.  The Army doesn’t subscribe to this idea of gain from torture, doesn’t subscribe to what he is having done either.  It’s a tangled web.

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By www.nazilieskill.us, October 5, 2007 at 6:40 am #
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They are another country.  They are “crooks without borders”, namely the Republicans, Saudis and Israelis to name a few.  They don’t need to break laws because they write them.  Money takes care of overything else.  Where there is private control as in banking, media, oil, and defense there is crook control.  Thieves steal cars in Israel and take them to chop shops in Palestine.  That’s crooks without borders.

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By PACRAT, October 5, 2007 at 5:25 am #
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Shamed? This Justice Department? Never!

Like the rest of the Bush administration, the Injustice Department is not ashamed of any laws it has broken!

All of this happened while the republicans in congress approved and applauded, and the democrats kept their thumbs in! And now that the republicans remain in charge of congress we are in for the revelation of more crimes of this administration.

The only action the Constitution mandates as a remedy is IMPEACHMENT - and it is imcombent on congress to start the process!

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By thomas billis, October 5, 2007 at 2:53 am #
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Beware if we get hit again the theme will be if the Congress did not put restaints on us we could have avoided it.What scares me is a large number of people will believe it.Instead of the logical reason we got hit again is that they are stupendously incompetent.My7 biggest worry is another attack and the scaredy cat Americans will let the Constitution become toilet paper.Boy if the Founding Fathers had thought their sacrifice would have led to the chicken shit Americans we have become I do not know if they would have bothered.The typical American response to danger is"I do not care what you do big father just let me have the illusion of safety."Pathetic.

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By bc41, October 4, 2007 at 9:44 pm #
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It’s like a different country doing all this.  Seams like everything they did clearly violated the law.

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By rowdy, October 4, 2007 at 8:00 pm #
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this piece is incorrectly captioned. the “justice dept.” is unaware of the word shame,much less it’s definition.

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By Don Stivers, October 4, 2007 at 8:00 pm #
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Just define torture as a looong slow death and then if the guy survives, then he or she was not tortured.

Simple!

And our Congress stands for it.

How do we gain back control of our government?

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By Bob Zimmerman, October 4, 2007 at 6:28 pm #
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I’m not surprised by these revelations but immensely sad that a U.S. president would countenance such disgraceful behavior. Not since Richard Nixon has this country be so let down by our leaders who don’t seem to understand the U.S. Constitution or the principles upon which this country was founded. What a sad day for America!

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By www.nazilieskill.us, October 4, 2007 at 3:17 pm #
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The torture was never directed against “terrorists”.  They were victimized as a warning to those who stood against the war for bucks.

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By rodney, October 4, 2007 at 11:39 am #
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Shame! the Bush Adminstration has no shame.George “Goulog” Bush Dick “Pol Pot” Cheney Condolezza “Edi Amin” Rice has no shame. Impeachment should have happened a long time ago. The Decider and the Patriot Act now stands as the rule of law. The yes men Republicans, and the spindless Democrats, have allowed us to become a unaccountable Dictatorship run by Bush ane his minions of Halliburton, Kellogg Root and Brown. Blackwater, Hannity, Limbaugh,Colter, The Christian Right, and all of the other so called moral, money grubbing thieves that are sending this nation the debts of hell. God Bless America and no one else, all the way to hell! With Bush leading the way!

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By TAO Walker, October 4, 2007 at 10:44 am #
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“It’s the zombie jamboree!” (Non Credo, #104643) sung about by, of all people, The Kingston Trio way back in the fifties.  Theamericanpeople, even then mostly caught-up in the self-cancelling Brownian movement that was already grotesquely over-inflating their self-image while the Living Ground of their very existence was being yanked out from under ‘em, still tend to think their infantile obsession with comfort and convenience actually signifies in the cold-blooded calculations of the “global” imperium.  Most haven’t a clue their hollowed-out “democracy” exists nowhere but in their own fevered imaginations.

Sincere and well-meaning commenters here cry-out they “....want (their) country back!” This was never their country.  It’s Indian Country....occupied militarily and “settled” illegally by mostly European Christian peasants doing the dirty-work for the ruthless plutoligarchy that still rules over them....and which is now prepared to dispense with their services and dispose of them, in wholesale lots, as being “redundant,” on the cooked books of the privateering criminal enterprise.

For a preview of their own immediate future americans should take a good hard look at Iraq.  Only in their case it’ll be tens of millions of “internal” refugees, more millions of disappeared “detainees,” more yet of uncounted victims of internecine conflict and false-flag state-sponsored “terrorist attacks.” As for flight over the borders and across the seas, more recent immigrants might still have people who’ll take them in, in their countries of origin.  Most more “permanent” americans, however, shouldn’t expect warm welcomes among peoples thoroughly soured by the things the subject/citizenry here have permitted to be wrapped in their flag.

Mollycoddled americans will surely be getting “back” what they’ve got coming to them.  It is not going to be OUR Country, though.

HokaHey!

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By QuyTran, October 4, 2007 at 10:17 am #
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The Justice Department under Bush is close to Omerta law.

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By Eric L Prentis, October 4, 2007 at 9:20 am #
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The Bush Administration will be known for all time for enacting the US Torture Gestapo, a bitter low point for American prestige on the world stage.

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By Non Credo, October 4, 2007 at 9:01 am #
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What did you expect?

We now live in a society where a completely harmless young student can be tortured with a taser gun right in front of a “liberal” senator for asking a very good if long-winded political question. The Alberto Gonzaleses of this world could not do what they do without the John Kerrys who enable them.

We are a corpse of a democracy, dancing hideously on puppet strings.

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By bibisad, October 4, 2007 at 8:18 am #
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Perhaps they all created a corrupt environment. They knew, as the “mafia”, to get all hands soiled with blood, in that way everyone will be safe from the law.

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By Don Stivers, October 4, 2007 at 6:58 am #
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Impeach them all.  Try them for crimes.  Try them for war crimes.

As a Republican, I am glad I never voted for any of our administration.

Are our Representatives as guilty as the administration?  Is that why they don’t impeach?  What gives here?

This is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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