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 Clinton Leads Obama by 33 PointsPosted on Oct 4, 2007
Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination is picking up steam. She has widened her lead over Barack Obama by an impressive 33 points, according to the latest Washington Post/ABC poll.
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By heiderose1, October 5, 2007 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
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Just 3 little words:
Remember the Mets
Report thisBy Verla Mae, October 5, 2007 at 9:07 am Link to this comment
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“Is Hilary Clinton the best/perfect/desirable/progressive candidate the I wish we were voting for NO!!
Will I support her with all my might YES!!!
Why because I can imagine a republican winning the presidency in 2009 and it terrifies me!”
allentvet on 10/04 at 4:23 pm
Sweety, the election will be held in November of 2008.
Relax, and let your girl win a primary before you go swearing your allegiance. There’s nothing written in stone that says her detractors don’t know more than these polls. The polls don’t vote. Detractors sometimes do, though.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, October 5, 2007 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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Remember Howard Dean? He had better numbers than Hill-the-business-shill before the Iowa Caucus which he lost along with New Hampshire, South Carolina, and on and on.
Remember John Kerry? He had numbers about equal to Kucinich and he won everything in site (except the general election.
Hillary is more of the same shit….like where we’ve been? thank the “anointed queen” with a vote. (my apologies to real queens)
Want something different? pick another candidate, ALTHOUGH I must admit this is the worst slate of candidates presented in my voting life….from both parties!
Report thisBy rage, October 5, 2007 at 5:55 am Link to this comment
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That Hillary is polling well is merely a testament to the successful marketing her political branding is currently enjoying. She’s the New Tide With Bleach and Fabric Softener! At the price she’s being nationally offered, though, will her public visibility guarantee her better sales than Purex and Sun brands offered more affordably at the Dollar Store or Walmart? Face it. All the detergents promise to clean your clothes. One fragrant surfactant with sodium hypochlorite is not much different than another. Some packaging is fancier. Some are said to be available everywhere. In the end, folks will buy the best they can afford. Only the primaries will tell us for sure.
The billions of polls referenced are meaningless. The polls reflect nothing anywhere close to the true political pulse of the American voters. If anything, the Repugnitized idiot propagandists are covertly conceding that Shillary’s the Democratic Candidate up against whom any one of that sad bunch of Republican losers stands the any chance at all. The infotainment propagandists don’t poll legitimately registered voters. People like my niece and all her eighth grade buddies regularly abuse opportunities to speed dial or web up Obama’s numbers because he’s so cute, and, like, so smart and stuff. Pudgy bow-tied dateless collegiate Neo-Whigs, who have Alan Greenspan tats and dollar-sign brands on the backs of their left hands, keep Dame Edna Guilliani and Shillary at each other’s throats. It’s American Idol on political crack.
This early on four years ago, Howard Dean was ahead of his pack too. But, the voting herd is fickle. Furthermore, the DNC is more fickle and appearance conscious than the fickle voting herd. Eventually, it’s going to occur to the DNC that Hillary cannot possibly guarantee victory on 2008. Being the 60 year old former Goldwater girl who became a corporate lawyer who became a governor’s wife before she was First Lady before her six very lackluster years in the Senate does not scream experience no matter how the media spins this. Sure, nothing prepares a candidate for this job. Still, it’s not a job the mail man can get elected to do, despite his twenty years of government employment.
Shillary is a light weight against every elephant on the other side of the room but maybe Dame Edna Guilliani. Her camp is not going to be able to control what questions she asked and the audience who asks them for too much longer. She can only trot Big Dog out there and publicly flog him to painfully extract his campaign support so many times before the gesture becomes more hysterically comical than even obviously hypocritical. In short, she’s peaked in the ratings. That cackling is going to prove costly when she’s finally voted off American Idle The Democratic Candidates in the coming season.
Kucinich in 2008!
Report thisBy RdV, October 5, 2007 at 4:28 am Link to this comment
allentvet:
Report thisSorry, no one does like her—that is what all the discussion about her “negatives” is about.
I actually voted for Gore and were he to ever run again my vote would be even more enthusiastic. And, I voted for Kerry—not because I particularly cared or respected him and his “soldier boy” act, but as part the ABB strategy. I won’t get reeled in or held hostage by those tactics again and I am not impressed by demonstrations of military brutality as a measure of patriotism. What is notable about Clinton’s unlikability factor is that progressive Democrats universially don’t like her either, but that is not a widely discussed situation because the assumption is the “base” will fall into line. With the continuing trend to triangulate with Neocons, and excuses and weak rationale for abdicating constitutional obligation, the ClintonDemocrats will find an increasing shrinking base.
By RdV, October 5, 2007 at 4:14 am Link to this comment
Ever been polled? Ever meet anyone who was?
Report thisDid you ever hear the way they ask the question to get the results they want? Anyone know the criteria from the MSM for “random” selection? A thousand people “polled” and the headlines blare she is the winner from coast to coast?
What a set-up. Give me a break.
By vet240, October 4, 2007 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment
Response to: #104755 by allentvet
Has any of you folks along with allenvet ever played poker?
Don’t go all in so durn fast.
If your not completely satisfied with the position of any candidate and you show a willingness to subvert your own positions you’ll get what you deserve.
There are more than one or two “viable” candidates. Don’t buy into the corporate/media speak when there are more than just Obama or Clinton mouthing promises here. Listen to them all. Let them know you’re listening.
There’s more at stake in this election than one or two issues. It’s very possible that this next president will determine whether America continues to exist a real democracy or as anything more than a debt ridden third rate country with a shrinking middle-class and the loss of personal freedoms our fore-fathers offered us.
I’m not going to settle for just another political hack. I want an American who will put the integrity of the Constitution ahead of all else, one who will stand up for a re-invigorated middle-class based on Americans working in American factories.
Report thisBy allentvet, October 4, 2007 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment
From previous entries
Yes, but no one likes her
More phony numbers from phony polls
Perhaps its time for a viable Third Party candidate
Hilary is a phony, a porcelain doll of a person
Hillary can take a long walk off a short pier
Dont get sucked into being told who the candidate should be
Is this the best that the bloggers of truthdig.com can come up with?
I for one am not blinded by the media or the Clinton machine but actually believe from hard cold analysis of her time in the US Senate and her long history as an activist that Hilary Jefferson Clinton is not only the best chance that Democrats have of gaining the White House but she is the most qualified of all the candidates in both parties. Do I agree with her on everything certainly not! She has no where near the progressive credentials that I would like to see in a candidate ( I would prefer Edwards) but is she an excellent choice for this time in US history absolutely yes!
The above comments from previous blogs remind me of the comments made about Gore WOW I wished their voices had lost the debate back then because I have heard silly statements like Perhaps its time for a viable Third Party candidate before! Its time the Left let the right self-destruct for a change!
Is Hilary Clinton the best/perfect/desirable/progressive candidate the I wish we were voting for NO!!
Will I support her with all my might YES!!!
Why because I can imagine a republican winning the presidency in 2009 and it terrifies me!
Report thisBy waxman, October 4, 2007 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment
104734 LOVEINATUB….....................RUB A DUB DUB THREE ELEPHANTS IN A TUB…IS THAT A NEW TALKING POINT OF THE REPUBLICANS ( TAKE A LONG WALK OF A SHORT PIER ?)GO GIVE RUDY AND O’REILY A SPONGE BATH..NO CHARGE OF COURSE….
Report thisBy linda honickel, October 4, 2007 at 4:20 pm Link to this comment
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vote for the person who stands for the issues that concern you. Don’t get sucked into being told who the candidate should be try this at http://dehp.net/candidate/ it will give you the issues and you can see for yourself who running, best fits for you.
Report thisBy loveinatub, October 4, 2007 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment
Hillary can take a long walk off a short pier. She will never have my loyalty. She’s the choice of the “media” but not of those who question authority.
Report thisBy John Hall, October 4, 2007 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment
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Once again, the bastards manipulating who’s going to be the candidates. Not necessarily who the people want, but who the media want. Chris Matthews was talking up how great a Hilary/Rudy match-up would be. I’m sure other news shows will follow that trail in lockstep.
Hilary is a phony, a porcelain doll of a person. Rudy and that grin of his remind me of Judge Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? He’s also a 9/11 whore.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, October 4, 2007 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment
The same polls who pretend Ron Paul doesn’t exist.
Report thisBy vet240, October 4, 2007 at 1:59 pm Link to this comment
Once again the media and the Party bosses are telling us who the Democratic Presidential candidate is going to be.
Why are so many Democrats so willing to accept the choice of the media and the Party Hacks.
I am in the minority. I choose Governor Richards. He understands the absolute necessity of getting out of Iraq. The future of America is at stake.
The reasons are clear. As long as we insist on controlling the future of the Iraqi people (which will end in complete failure) we will continue to get further and further in debt to foreign interests.
Our options are limited to deciding to make enemies of the vast majority of the world while sustaining the military/industrial complex (our only real exported product and the basis of whats left of our manufacturing sector), or to return to our former position of international respect by respecting the rights of sovereign nations to make their own decisions. At the same time (if we chose the latter option) we can reduce our mountainous debt load and have enough left over to re-establish the middle class in America, start repairing our transportation infrastructure, improve on our health-care options, really address the global warming situation and fix the immigration mess by enforcing our immigration laws and closing the borders to protect us not only from illegal immigrants packing drugs into the country and shipping out 30 bilion u.s.dollars each year but also reduce the probability of terrorists entering the same way.
Are you Democrats willing to continue with the process that has lead us into this mess or are you going to insist the candidate has not been determined as yet simply because too many of them sound too much like Republican Neo-Cons?
Perhaps it’s time for a viable Third Party candidate.
The Two party system has been failing us miserably since WWII.
Report thisBy Paul, October 4, 2007 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment
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More phony numbers from phony polls out up by the financial elites who rule this nation. Vote by conscience, not by predetermined scorecard.
Report thisBy waxman, October 4, 2007 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment
104667 RdV ...HANNITY JUST CALLED, SAID YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO HIS SHOW RIGHT AWAY OR LOSE YOUR PAY FOR THE DAY,,,,GET, GET , GET SCUMBAG AZZKISSER
Report thisBy ib, October 4, 2007 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment
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Go Hill!!!!!
Oh yes, and by the way you are not being forced on me.
Report thisBy RdV, October 4, 2007 at 11:36 am Link to this comment
Yes, but no one likes her.
Report thisWe have always known that she was being foisted on us like Kerry was when they decided he was the one.
She may be the corporations’ choice. She will never be loved by the people even if they have been rallied to board her bandwagon.