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Ear to the Ground

Bush Before the War

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Posted on Sep 28, 2007
Aznar and Bush
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Joe Conason tells the story revealed by recently released transcripts of a meeting held between Spain’s then-prime minister and President Bush prior to the war. As one might expect, Bush was arrogant and determined to invade, diplomacy be damned.


Salon:

Equally striking are the echoes of the “cakewalk” talk that pervaded White House propaganda in the weeks before the invasion. “We can win [the war] without much destruction,” burbled Bush, attempting to reassure Aznar that the future would be bright. “We’re planning for a post-Saddam Iraq and believe there is a strong base to build a better future. Iraq has a good bureaucracy and relatively robust civil society.” Whatever Bush expected, the State Department’s attempt to plan for Iraq’s future would be discarded by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; the former Iraqi government would be disbanded and its offices looted and burned; and of course Iraq’s civil society would disintegrate into sectarian civil war.

If Aznar didn’t anticipate those multiple disasters, at least he had the wit to urge caution, and to wonder aloud why Bush sounded so confident and sunny on the eve of massive bloodshed. (The Spanish people soon ratified his foreboding by dismissing his right-wing government in the next election.)

“I’m optimistic because I believe I’m right,” replied the obtuse Bush. “I’m at peace with myself.” That smug statement—uttered by a man who had no idea what he was talking about and no interest in what anyone else believed—could be the epitaph for his presidency.

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By cyrena, September 30, 2007 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

#103221 by Larry on 9/28

...“All In The Translation: Leaked Spanish Memo Does NOT Show Bush “Planned To Invade Iraq No Matter What”..”

Larry,

Thanks for the translation. I wish more of these were provided for the comments and conversations of other leaders, (like say Iran’s Ahmadinejad) so that folks would know the truth, instead of how it’s been “interpreted” by others.

However, while this translation may not provide evidence that Dick Cheney was going to invade and occupy Iraq, -no matter what- there are NUMEROUS other documents, (hundreds in fact) that DO made this abundantly clear.

The plans to invade and occupy Iraq, Iran, and Syria have been in the works for years. It’s just that for many of us here in the US, it was “off the radar” type info, for most of those years. We’re just now getting up to speed on some of the additional details.

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By Gerald Vest, September 30, 2007 at 7:22 am Link to this comment
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“I’m optimistic because I believe I’m right,” replied the obtuse Bush. “I’m at peace with myself.” That smug statement—uttered by a man who had no idea what he was talking about and no interest in what anyone else believed—could be the epitaph for his presidency.”

Thanks for your article describing this maniac or madman’s beliefs—would be a great epitaph for his headstone.

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By Artist General, September 29, 2007 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment
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FIRE WHISPERERS

AS A “CROWDED THEATER” OF MORE WAR PASSES
THE CONSTITUTIONAL KINDLING POINT OF CURTAINED RAFTERS, THE ARM-CHAIRED VOICE OF TALKING-HEADED PUNDITRY OFFERS “TO THE MASSES”
SERIALLY-MODULATED WARNINGS OF DANGER LESS RIGHT NOW THAN “DOWN-THE-ROAD”. YES, YES OF COURSE CONCEDING, EVEN POINTING OUT THE “OBVIOUS” ACRIDLY PARTISAN POLITICAL VAPORS, PODIAL-SULFEARIC FUMES, BUSHELZEBUBONIC ‘INFLATULATION’,
WUTHERING MARTIAL GASSE$...etc (IT’S A MESS…

...BUT…
THEIR CREATURE-COMFORT-ZONED
RED-HANDED PARSE-GIVEN TONE
CARRIES POWER’S BROKEN WATER OF UNBORNE BLUE “SMOKE” TO BUY TIME FROM THE PAST UP,
WITH NOT ENOUGH OR TOO MUCH
SHAME OR PRIDE (TOXICALLY “UPHOLSTERED” WITH THE PROTEAN SECURITY THAT ONLY FAUX DEBUNKINGS OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES CAN PROVIDE),

MOST GINGERLY “DISINCLINED ON CONTACT” TO “TEST” FOR EXAMPLE:  THE “IN$IDE TOUCH” ($OFT AS A DEAD CANARY’S BREAST)...

AND ALL THE WHILE, ALL THE WHILE NEOCONDESCENDING IN UPBEATEDLY CHIPPER YET ...SOMBER… ADMONITION.

(AND WHAT THEN MOVES THEM TO EVER YELL, WHEATHER AGAINST OR FOR,
SEEMS NEVER TO BE THE RIGHT THING…)

WON’T ASK, WON’T TELL
 
TRUTH TO POWER

Healthy for the Media,
Good for Democracy—

Bad for “Our Due” Mind$et
Public Servants

MORAL MULTI-TASKING:

~A Question of Courage
in a Measure of Character~

~For the Asking!

A HARDENING SELL

...FEELING “PUT-UPON”,
ANNOYED TO SO NEED REMINDING THAT:

“IT IS A NEWSPAPER’S DUTY
TO PRINT THE NEWS AND RAISE HELL.”

—Wilbur Storey, Statement of the aims of the Chicago Times, 1861.

            BROADSIDE MANNER

PROPOSITION G-Y NOT: CRAMP THEIR GUILE
w/ AN “OATH” OF MARTIAL OFFICE

“Artist General’s Warning:

Recu$al question could be bad for Bush’s political health…
The question is this:

Will you agree never to accept any personal profits flowing from any military action you authorize or promote?

... Who knows, maybe mainstream journalists might even begin questioning why a war cabinet of Texas oilmen lied their way into occupying some of the most oil-rich regions of the world. Or maybe that’s asking too much. “

—Steven T. Jones, San Francisco Bay Guardian

reposted @:  http://www.kyndmusic.com/2006/07/01/artist-general-warning-recusal-question-bad-for-bush/

~BLOODY SAD BUT BIGTIME TRUE~

WHOA! Takin’ us to WAR?
~You ForGOT to “ReCU$E” Yourselves!

A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF RIGHT & WRONG NOW WAITING…LIKE AN ELEPHANT
IN THE CHENEY-BUSH-ESTATE FORTUNE$-O’-WAR ROOM

...MORAL ARGUMENT(S) AGAINST ASKING IT?~NONE.
WATCHIN’ ‘EM SQUIRM? PRICELESS.

“ANYBODY-WANT-SOME-WOOD?”—W, aka OC (“Ol’ Coffers”) Bush “nervously”, in debate with Kerry
Re: Presidential Portfolia, Conflict of interest question…

WE THE PEOPLE
DO HENCEFORTH EXPECT
of Public Servants Exercising Fatal Authority In Our Name A Formal
“DECLARATION OF DISOWNERSHIP”

—A For-the-Record Concession That
NO ENTITLEMENT EXISTS*

to Present or Future Personal Profit ‘Demonstrably Connected’ to Any War (or Bloodshed) Authorized, Promoted, Advanced or Otherwise “Engaged on Your Watch” :

WE THE PEOPLE Hold Ourselves
Deserving of “An Explanation”
Should the Answer to This “Recu$al-for-Life” Question be “No”.
If the Answer is “Yes”, Then Be It Understood:
Martial Planner Agrees to Surrender-on-Demand Said Profit—
(Deliberate or “Unintentional”, Exposed or “Discovered”)
to Veteran Benefit Groups, College Funds For Children of the Fallen, etc…

*Disagree? i.e., ‘infringement of rights as a public servant in a “free market” economy? too much, or “unfair” $acrifice?—elaborate

“PAPERTRAIL FIGHTERS”
http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/politics/2007/08/political_art_of_the_week.html

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By purplewolf, September 28, 2007 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment

#103275 Cyrena:

Thanks for the kudos,I am honored you will use one of my comments for your class.It is unfortunate that we have to have a class in common sense,but there has been a need for this for to long a time,as common sense has been on the indangered list for much to long in this country.Nonsense on the other hand,is alive and well and runs amok in this administration.

Yes,the cheerleader(no insult to many of my male friends but,HOW GAY OF HIM). To keep changing the rules of the game throughout the course of his forced(communistic) world domination game. To bad those other students could not have been more asertive with this rich mans bully child and put him in his proper place during his school years. There was a wasted education spent on that one. Usually only very LITTLE CHILDREN change the rules of the games they play until they are taught better by their parents. Perhaps the Bush parents should have practiced zero population growth-limit of 2 children per married couple. That way they could have had the right amount of time to nuture those children properly,but with 5 children it looks as if they had to little time and very little parental instruction for the excessive children they unfortunately unleashed on the world, like Jeb and Marvin, the invisible bush progeny. Yet we are told that this neglect in child rearing is usually confined to the lower income/ less educated peoples of this country. There goes that theory. It is obvious from his behaviour, that George did not recieve enough attention, socializing, etiquette, manners, decency, morality, honesty and the hundreds of other things that parents usually impart to their offspring. Unless of course maybe they did train George to be this way. Now that is scary. A liar and a bully who twists and manipulates the truth so he can continue his game of world domination. His parents must be so proud.

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By cyrena, September 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment

#103238 by purplewolf

Thanks for the GREAT POST purplewolf. I’m copying it for distribution in my adult education class…the one I have in COMMON SENSE and “dot-connection”, where we study the Constitution, (rather than the Bible) seeing as how there might be a day when we’ll be able to use it again, and I’d like to keep hope alive. (It’s becoming more and more difficult though)
•  #103184 by nefertiti on 9/28 at 4:34 am
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“I’m optimistic because I believe I’m right
that sounds very much like the arrogant “Yale Graduate “if you did not know , who says Childrens and Internets .
Nefertiti,
Just so you know – on this “Yale” thing, the drunk SOB never studied ANYTHING at Yale. The only thing he did there, was to force his classmates into marathon sessions of the –board game- WORLD DOMINATION. Yep, he would keep them at it, (even when they were trying to study) and nobody could leave until he had “won”. (and…he changed the rules whenever he was losing).
Consequently, GW should be an EMBARRASSMENT to both Yale and Harvard, (since Harvard was where he allegedly got the MBA – Yale was undergraduate where he majored in WORLD DOMINATION.) Now, I’m really not the least bit “embarrassed” by GW, because I’ve long known that he was a typical dead-beat drunk rich boy. I AM embarrassed that my fellow citizens have allowed it.

Now, he’s still a drunk, and still changing the rules, (or making them up as he goes along) and what WAS a board game, he has now taken to the real world. We see the destruction, and not just for the countries that he has attacked, (after Cheney told him with ones were the prizes) but in what it has done to the rest of us right here.

So, just so you know. The US pres is a psychopath, (like Hitler)and so are his masters. (Cheney et all). I just don’t want you to think that this is typical for all US institutions of higher learning.

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By GrammaConcept, September 28, 2007 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

Thank you to Tomack for this not-so-incredible, nonetheless shocking, bit of research…

The first and best defense to aid in averting being swallowed up by dark forces is knowing what you are dealing with….

The second…..is illustrated in the core of the piece, found through the following link….:

http://www.ellenbass.com/pray_for_peace.php

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By ocjim, September 28, 2007 at 11:34 am Link to this comment

Again, this is no revelation. It was patently obvious at the time that no analysis, no ruminations, no assessments were to be done. The decision was made years before. Only the opportunity to set up American acceptance was needed and 9/11 provided the opportunity. Mindful of this, one wonders if some other event will be exploited to justify declaration of a national crisis. That’s why attacking Iran seems to be in the cards, and therefore, the fact that Congress has provided Bush with tools of tyranny is especially threatening.

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By purplewolf, September 28, 2007 at 9:15 am Link to this comment

Tomack: Your post has so many of the things we see today.It seems that the more educated we suppossedly become the dumber or more gullible people seem to be. To follow this madmans lead spells the ruin for us all.I look around and see people who must have been brainwashed as they look up to this leader? and his continous speal of lies and follow blindly because many tell me they do so becasue G.W.Bush is more faith based, more religious.

It was said that the people of Germany didn’t realize until it was to late the true colors of the reign of Hitler, others think it couldn’t happen again,well history repeats itself and in this case, Prescott Bush,one of the people who aided Hitler in this madness of world domination is the very own grandfather of this moron in the whitehouse.It runs in the family, G.W. was probably weaned on Nazi war stories and that is why he is so obsessed with running the world.It goes way beyond normal obsession, it seems that is all G.W. thinks about, bombing and destroying and taking over other countries.

Any person who thinks he is foolproof and it never enters his mind that he is wrong not matter what,should never have been allowed to hold a position of power,as he thinks that his abuse of that power is justified.By God. It shows in the post Tomack posted listing some of the statements Hitler made and the very same statements that G.W. makes today.

It was stated several years ago that Bush was walking around the white house hallways talking to the pictures on the walls as did Hitler just before he commited suicide.It has also been stated that he reeks of alcohol by 9 am in the morning. Maybe things are not as great as he claims.

With this latest tale of terror to come forth about the fact that Bush lied again, why hasn’t this congress impeached G.W. amd Cheney as he is the person who has pushed for this behind the scenes and the proof is there.Just do it before this duo pushes the button of no return.

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By Larry, September 28, 2007 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
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All In The Translation: Leaked Spanish Memo Does NOT Show Bush “Planned To Invade Iraq No Matter What”

http://themoderatevoice.com/war/15333/its-all-in-the-translation-leaked-spanish-memo-does-not-show-bush-planned-to-invade-iraq-no-matter-what/

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By Thomas Billis, September 28, 2007 at 7:25 am Link to this comment
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Bush is a happy moron what is the Spanish prime ministers excuse.He was swept off his feet by Bush’s grade school Spanish.If a moron asks you to jump off a 10 story building and you jump who is really the moron?

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By tomack, September 28, 2007 at 6:56 am Link to this comment

Here are some historical quotes. Read them and decide whether or not they are somewhat familiar. This man was another who had great self righteousness. 

  I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker.
Adolf Hitler

 

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
Adolf Hitler

Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.
Adolf Hitler


As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
Adolf Hitler

As soon as by one’s own propaganda even a glimpse of right on the other side is admitted, the cause for doubting one’s own right is laid.
Adolf Hitler

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
Adolf Hitler


Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future.
Adolf Hitler

Germany will either be a world power or will not be at all.
Adolf Hitler

Great liars are also great magicians.
Adolf Hitler

Hate is more lasting than dislike.
Adolf Hitler

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
Adolf Hitler

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator - by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Adolf Hitler

How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.
Adolf Hitler

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.
Adolf Hitler

Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice.
Adolf Hitler

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Adolf Hitler

I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Adolf Hitler

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
Adolf Hitler

It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.
Adolf Hitler

It is not truth that matters, but victory.
Adolf Hitler

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
Adolf Hitler

Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong.
Adolf Hitler

The art of leadership… consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.
Adolf Hitler

The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.
Adolf Hitler

The great mass of people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler

The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler

The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it.
Adolf Hitler

The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.
Adolf Hitler

The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.
Adolf Hitler

The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.
Adolf Hitler

Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.
Adolf Hitler

Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction.
Adolf Hitler

What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.
Adolf Hitler

Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
Adolf Hitler

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By nefertiti, September 28, 2007 at 5:34 am Link to this comment

“I’m optimistic because I believe I’m right

that sounds very much like the arrogant “Yale Graduate “if you did not know , who says Childrens and Internets .

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By rbrooks, September 28, 2007 at 5:03 am Link to this comment
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Iraq is now the neocons’ and the mainstream media’s gold-plated, blood-soaked distraction while Cheney is getting ready to roll out his “wet dream” - the coming attack on Iran.
For the love of all that’s holy and sane, Mr. Conason, FOCUS. Iraq happened. Everyone in the world, even in this country, knows how it happened. The even greater horror is that it’s happening again, right before our eyes, and NOTHING IS BEING DONE TO PREVENT IT. Help us get the attention of - who? congress? the UN? what can be done? before it is too late to stop Bush’s third war. For the generations that follow us - what do we do?

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