Hi boggs,
Perhaps I worded that a bit strongly. While I can understand the police reaction, the fact that the student was not actually in the airport (she was at a traffic island outside as I understand it) makes me disagree with the near-deadly force involved.

Regardless, the airport employee acted appropriately, whether the airport security acted appropriately is somewhat debatable (but I don’t fault them for it). All that I really take issue with now is that they’re trying to charge her with “intent to cause panic with a hoax device,” despite that clearly not being the case.

IIMarckus,
Sounds as though you have fallen under the spell of the fear mongers.
It would probably be best if you didn’t wear your wristwatch to travel. It just might be mistaken for an explosive devise.
But then, you probably don’t fly anyway, because of the dangers lurking in all the scary compartments.

Cyrena,  I didn’t learn anything from you, because you didn’t post anything resembling new information regarding airport security.  Flying is not my job in any case, it is purely recreation.

Your comments to me about not being smart are about as potent an insult as telling Tiger Woods he isn’t very athletic. I’m sure he would find it find it highly amusing, just as find your rather puerile comments to me.

#102149 by Frank

I’l glad you Truthdig posters are so super-smart! You can teach law enforcement agencies how to do their jobs and tell them what deranged individuals really do and don’t do with explosive devices, based on your extensive experience, and you can even teach a pilot like me about airport security (gosh I learned a lot).
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Ah GEE Frank!!! You’re trying to give me a heart attack, right? By telling me that you are actually a pilot?! PLEASE say it isn’t so. PLEASE.

Otherwise, I’ll have to find out who you are, and have your license pulled. If you had to learn one of the most important parts of your job from me, or any other poster on a public forum, then something very wrong has happened.

(like the nukes that the Airforce lost track of for 36 hours)

I bet you were the pilot on that US Airways flight that had the whole MSP airport in an uproar after that passenger caught a Muslim praying, and told the fight attendant, who told the pilot, (neither of whom bothered talking with the “suspicious passgenger”)who then called for the airport police, the FBI and the CIA, where they carted off the prayer and all of his buddies in handcuffs.) Was that you?

Or, were you the AE pilot who diverted the airplane for an emergency landing when the passenger lighted a match on board to cover up the smell of her farts?

Or, maybe you’re the one who decided to do an emergency landing on that LAX to LHR flight, because of the suspicious looking guy that boarded at LAX, but you waited until you got to BOS to take him off. Good thing he wasn’t really a terrorist, you all were already 6 hours into the flight. (he looked “middle eastern, so that was reason enough)

Or maybe you were the pilot on the flight where the passenger got shot dead in the jetway at MIA, because the new “federal air marshal” was a little nervous there in his first class seat. Did he check with you first, or just fire away?

You’re stupid Frank, and I’m very worried if you’re a pilot for any aircraft that would transport anything or anyone other than yourself. (and I still wouldn’t be happy unless it was over an unpopulated area).

Here’s the answer, as provided by ( #102411 IIMarckus)

•  One extreme is to nearly kill someone who could be suspicious. The other extreme is to not do a thing to anyone. The proper stance should be in the middle—for example, speaking to the person in question without shoving a gun in her face.

Now, a real pilot Frank, would have done exactly as IIMarckus has suggested here, as would a REAL airport security person:

They would have spoken to the woman. And, when this particular woman WALKED UP TO THE POLICEMAN, that’s exactly what happened. She asked him for gate information, and he asked HER about her shirt, and she…ANSWERED!! She told him it was an art project.

Next thing she knew, she had all guns pointed at her.

No more piloting for you Frank. You may be able to work the levers well enough to drive the bus, but you’ve got zilch in the common sense domain. That makes you a danger to society. A major security risk.

Matter of fact, we might need to put you on the NO-FLY list.

MERCY!!

The sense that security exists and is accountable only when publicly revealed is frightening. Where and what were the agencies overseeing the Air Force’s missing 6 nuclear warheads? See story of a “Bent Spear”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2007/09/23/GR2007092300032.html?sid=ST2007092300048 
Keep digging

Cyrena, I guess you are right and the hundreds of law enforcement personnel around the world who have witnessed incidents with deranged individuals wearing visible bombs or intentional hoax devices are just delusional. It never really happened.

I’l glad you Truthdig posters are so super-smart! You can teach law enforcement agencies how to do their jobs and tell them what deranged individuals really do and don’t do with explosive devices,  based on your extensive experience, and you can even teach a pilot like me about airport security (gosh I learned a lot).

Yessiree, Truthdiggers sure are a wealth of information.

#102121 by truthisout

•  …“Does anyone know the latest non dangerous facial expression protocals as established by the new TSA “Behavior Detection Officers”?”…

Yep truthisout, I was up to speed on this, since I’ve been following this Orwellian transformation of our society as displayed by the incredible things that are happening in what is now called the post-911 Era of aviation transportation, AKA, social control via brainwashing. It’s been a project for some years now. Still, thanks for providing the link again, since it sort of jump-started me to get back to work on it, (well, that and this latest incident of insanity at Boston’s Logan.)

When I initially read about the “Behavior Detection Officers”, it was pretty much the last straw. I’ve spent nearly 30 years working in this countries airports, and this is just totally beyond the pale now. The first comprehensive piece that I read on this BDO program was actually funny, in a semi-cynical sort of way. (at least my colleagues and I thought so), but it was a “funny” that only takes a temporary edge off of the seriousness of this whole thing, as it represents the far bigger picture. As I mentioned in an earlier post, an earlier victim of this insanity actually WAS shot dead at the airport. And, same thing, totally inappropriate and grossly unprofessional judgment on the part of the Federal Air Marshal that shot him. 

And, therein lies the problem. Another poster wondered where they got these new TSA and other “aviation security” people from. I don’t think people really wanna know. Even BEFORE 9-11, most of these “security functions” were handled by contractors, who hired the employees, and they weren’t all the sharpest knives in the block. Some, far from it. The airport police were more professional, but that was also a mixed bag. Still, there were very few “incidents” of any consequence, because the standard security protocol for aviation security, in dealing with terrorism and overall safety, had been exceedingly affective for the 40 or so years that it was in use, prior to 9-11.

As a matter of fact, prior to 9-11, I don’t recall any political terrorism directed at any US (DOMESTIC) airliners. (So I’m not intentionally ignoring the bombings of the TWA and Pan Am flights – which were bombed on international routes, but I’m being specific to what allegedly occurred on 9-11, because those were all domestic flights by US carriers). For my own memory, that was unprecedented, though I’ll have to search further back, to see if there could be earlier incidents.

I said all of that to say that there has always been a security protocol in place for this, one that all aviation personnel were required to be well trained in, and it obviously WORKED!! However, just like so many other “changes” that occurred as a result of 9-11, there was a MASSIVE PURGE, of airline employees and other aviation professionals, who were promptly replaced by a batch of workers who could be hired at a much lesser rate of pay, no job security, with no tangible benefits, other than a chance to “fly free”, if there was space on a flight. And, even that isn’t a real big advantage if you’re only making $5.00. (not much money to spend when you get there on the free flight, not to mention things like mortgages and groceries, and all of those sorts of things)
So, that gives one an idea of the huge change-over in the general personnel after the event of 9-11. And, this massive new collection of people to make up the TSA (since that didn’t exist before) is made up of the same types. They haven’t been trained in the established standards that always existed before, and so the whole industry has been highjacked by the same theme and Cabal that brought us 9-11. It has produced one of the most effective ingredients (massive population hysteria) for keeping everyone in fear, even though there isn’t anything to be afraid of, except what the same Cabal couldn do to us again.

Does anyone know the latest non dangerous facial expression protocals as established by the new TSA “Behavior Detection Officers”?
See McClathcy Washington Bureau Kaitlan Dirrig Post Aug. 14,2007.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/18923.html

....“These extra-smart Truthdig posters have shown you the way to sneak a bomb into a secure airport area.”..

Really Frank,

Think about what you’ve written here. This is a way to SNEAK a bomb into a secure airport area?

You don’t fly much, do you Frank? If you did, you’d know that SINCE 9-11, the SECURE airport areas are ONLY accessible to passengers with tickets and boarding passes, and ONLY after they’ve passed through the requisit security.

In this case, this young woman wasn’t even attempting to access the secure area of the airport, what is known to most as the “sterile side” of the terminal/concourse/etc, etc.

That’s how it is these days Frank, at US airports across the country. If one is going to meet a passenger, then it would be real “normal”, to ask the information booth person, where those passengers would be arriving. That’s what she did. She walked into the airport, and asked the guy at the booth, where flight blah, blah was arriving. She had flippin’ BLINKING light on her shirt, (like a few of my own tribe of kids have had on their roller skates over the years) and asked the guy a standard question. She didn’t need to “announce” herself to anybody, (which is what farmertx suggests she should have done…checked in with security) because she wasn’t planning to GO THROUGH security, since she was only MEETING an inbound passenger, (her boyfriend) and not flying herself.

And apparently, she’d managed to travel to the airport ON THE SUBWAY, presumably in the same outfit, and nobody thought she was trying to BOMB them, since it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, that terrorists don’t walk around in broad daylight with bombs and flashing bright lights on their shits, to ANNOUNCE their arrivals and intentions.

You’re stupid Frank. Take a field trip to an airport, so you can see how things are done.

I don’t know what to recommend for your paranoia. It might be too late. Just depends on how long that chip has been in your brain.

The reaction to this girls little adornment on her shirt, makes the whole world seem silly and yes, paranoid.
One over reaction was when Pare said she was lucky to be in a cell rather then the morgue. Wouldn’t that have been an overkill? Where are they finding all these authority hungry cops?
How silly, they are so anxious to get someone for something, they should volunteer for Iraq duty. Surely they would be allowed to kill someone over there!

So by the rationale of certain posters on this board, if the police were being reasonable, not “paranoid”, and a real terrorist walked in with an LED light equipped bomb strapped to his/her chest, the security folks would just smile and ignore it, letting the wayward jihadist stroll around casually until detonation time. After all, it is perfectly normal and not out-of-place for people to walk around with improvised electric devices on their chests in airports.

Well, aspiring terrorists of the world, there you have it!  These extra-smart Truthdig posters have shown you the way to sneak a bomb into a secure airport area. Just select an airport with easy-going, non-paranoid security personnel, then carry the bomb in plain view on your chest, maybe add some pretty lights on it,  and it will be ignored by all until you are ready to use it.

Cripes, the stupidity of some on this message board never ceases to amaze me.

•  A Massachusetts Port Authority staffer manning an information booth in the terminal became suspicious when Simpson—wearing the device—approached to ask about an incoming flight, Pare said. She did not respond…so the employee repeated the question, police said.

•  Simpson then said the device was artwork and left the counter and walked around the terminal area, causing some employees to leave the building in fear, police said.

(employees here are the stupidos)

•  “She was immediately told to stop, to raise her hands and not to make any movement, so we could observe all her movements to see if she was trying to trip any type of device,” Pare said. “Had she not followed the protocol, we might have used deadly force.”

Not “might have”, they WOULD HAVE, just like they shot that other guy dead on the jetway in Miami two years ago. (That was the feds). He was just walking off of an airplane, and they told him to stop, and he didn’t, so they shoot him dead. (he wasn’t wearing a circuit board, but he had a backpack, like the hundreds of thousands of others that transit the globe everyday).  Just not his lucky day. He should have stopped, never mind if he didn’t hear them, or that he was suffering some anxiety that occurs with several million people everyday, especially those among us who suffer from physiological and/or other conditions that can affect mentality and behavior, he happened to suffer from bi-polar disorder, now he’s just dead).

• 
“They showed amazing restraint, which may not have been there if she’d moved or if she’d tried to hide the explosive,” said former FAA agent Bryan Sullivan.”
(if this is amazing restraint, we’re screwed). If she tried to “hide them”? After she walked into the airport with them in full view? Right.

• 
Sullivan said police are trained to look for certain behaviors such as restless, fidgety movements or eyes darting back and forth, which they apparently did not see in Simpson.

(this is the “new training” that the “new” BEHAVIOR DETECTION OFFICERS now receive). They are hired from the same batch of private contractors that have always handled airport security.  They are CLUELESS.

Here’s the killer that makes me vomit. This is what is NOT “training”, and was NEVER “training” for airport security. It’s the exact OPPOSITE of effective security profiling.
So, this is as disgusting as it gets, and will continue to become. And my point about the “training” and the “protocol”, is that it’s pure insanity, and part of the fear based alternative reality that the Fascists have perpetrated via the 9-11 scam.

This young woman isn’t the one lacking common sense, it’s every single alleged “security professional” (FAA, Port Authority, Airport Employees) who have lost all common sense. I guess it’s just been “trained” or scared right out of them. And now the “training” is based on what somebody might be wearing in a PUBLIC place. They actually believe that a bomb-carrying terrorist would walk into an airport with ALL of the apparatus in FULL VIEW, (all terrorists do that) and walk up and ask the info booth guy a question that he must hear 500 TIMES PER DAY: (which gate/time/location etc) is flight blah, blah coming in and he’s so damn bored with his job, (because it does get boring if you’re stuck in that spot day after day) that when someone comes up with an outfit he’s never seen, that makes them a terrorist.

And the masses go right along, with their claims of this being a ‘post-911 world’ and her being really stupid for wearing that thing out in public. SHE should have known better. After all, if she’s 19-20 years old now, that means she was 13-14 when 9-11 happened, so she should be fully socialized to mass paranoia by now. Right? WRONG!!

I’m with Rowdy. We should run off together, where the massive brainwashing isn’t quite so pronounced. As of now, my fellow citizens/posters have become the “good Germans” of the 1930’s.

Live free or die. Nothing to fear but fear itself. Now we are afraid of a couple
of flashing lights on the outside (duh) of a young white woman’s clothing? Enough fear and ignorance so if we can’t fully ascertain a situation we will immediately kill to appease our suspicions. Terrorism now lives and breeds in minds that are always suspect. To see the U.S. now cowering like this is shameful.

it’s amazing how many of you fucking morons take the governments side. oh,it’s a post911 world. it sure as hell is. just remember who gave it to us; your fucking government. asshole democrats and republicans together.

What do you expect the cops to do. Do you expect them to check it out , to do so they would have to be real close to the device and that is very dangerous if she decided to set it off. Second did the cops know she was alone , no they did not. Even if she had removed the shirt with the device, she might have had an accomplice who could have remote detonated the device. Also just because only the breeder board was visible are the cops to assume that was all of the device , other parts including the explosive could have been somewhere else on her person.
Face it she is lucky to be alive , and i think her best bet will be to plead insanity.
On second thought she should say in jail for her own protection in case some pissed off passenger decided to take revenge. You know this had to have caused massive delays both in Boston and throughout the country

Being intelligent and having common sense aren’t mutally inclusive.
If a container of clear liquid or ones shoe’s can be a terrorist’s weapon, why not a circuit board?
All she would have done is check with security upon arrival so the could verify that it wasn’t a bomb of some sort and end of story.
She either wanted her 15 miniutes right now or has a lot to learn about life in these times.

Watch for her on Leno, Letterman, et al.

things like this surely must cause rove and cheney to roll on the floor howling with laughter. they pulled off the biggest hoax ever and still reap rewards from it. boston must be the most terrorist-cowed city on the planet,right after baghdad.

How damn stupid and cowardly have we become? Was this really an attempt to convince people she had a Bomb glued onto her Sweater on the outside?

I swear I’m living in a loony bin full of people who can longer think and make rational decisions.

I hope she sues them for their sweaters and badges.

Further the only reason to publish another non-bomb news break is to demonstrate just how insane we have allowed the coward mongers to play us.

To any who would blow up a bomb in my vicinity I say with complete conviction, If your device kills me I ask that you kiss the ass of my corpse while it’s still warm!

The cop is probably right. One of these days one of these high school graduates overdosed on testosterone wearing a badge is going to pull the trigger. Common sense isn’t one of the requirements for the Associate’s degree in “Police Science” at the community college.