#101664 farmertex: It’s to bad bushboy didn’t want to be a war time soldier isn’t it? I fear that the vision you refer to is a hallucination.

Re:#101592 by purplewolf on 9/20 at 9:18 am
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Sending the twins would be a nice touch. But, as for that ending our presence there, I’d think that depends on mom and Gramma,and how much hell they raised with Shrub.
I doubt if Shrub would really care, as long as the money kept rolling in and his toadies keep praising his ‘vision’. Besides, it’s every sissies dream to be a War President; why else has it dragged on so long?

IN VIEW OF THIS CRAP, WHO SUPPORTS THE TROOPS NOW…SEEMS LIKE THE BUSHIES WANT THEM WORN OUT SO THEY CAN’T PREFORM THEIR DUTIES AND GET OUT OF THAT HELL HOLE…LET ME THINK NOW,  WHAT PREZ HAS TAKEN MORE VACATION THAN ANY OTHER SINCE 1776 ???????BUT KEEP THE TROOPS THERE, PREZ ..WE ALL KNOW ITS HARD WORK..

John McCain branded this bill dangerous. What’s more dangerous? Having adequate down time from the war or having over tired,over stressed soldiers? Since this administration refuses to come to it’s senses and end this obscene folly.

Repukelican Jim Bunning quotes,“I will not support this slow bleed strategy in Iraq.” Isn’t that what we have now,a slow bleed in Iraq that has been nonstop for 4 1/2 years now?

All logic shows that these polititions who run this country are so out of touch with the real world that their mental views of the world have rendered them worthless in any decessions and actions to end the bloodshed and continous draining of Americas best.

Send in the twins Jenna and Barb and see how fast this ends.

#101568
“We cannot continue to look at war and the people who fight and die in wars as abstractions, as pawns, as objects.”  Very revolutionary and very timely.  Modern warfare, particularly American style, is conducted in a way that those fighting in it, not to mention the victims of it, are mere abstractions, pawns and objects.  Perhaps Hegel recognizes this which was what prompted his remark.

Is there some procedure in the Senate or House whereby a bill submitted for a vote but not passed cannot be re-submitted - ever?  Or, is there a waiting period between submissions?  If the answers are ‘no’ and an unpassed bill can be re-submitted for a vote whenever, the Democrats are just a bunch of show-boaters.

A bill - like the Webb bill - repeatedly submitted to the vote, repeatedly voted down, repeatedly re-submitted to the vote, just might make a significant splash in the stagnant pool posing as the evening news - which just might wake up the American people. 

The collective wrath of the American people is the only thing that will rescue this sick republic of ours. Our representatives in Congress are obviously not committed to rescuing it.

Applying my usual practices of text analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Senator Hagel said something that was either very ignorant or very revolutionary.  I prefer to accept the revolutionary interpretation.  Since my argument is somewhat lengthy, I invite the curious to examine it at:

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2007/09/anti-chutzpah-but-audacious-republican.html

Please allow me to quote a decorated veteran, senator and UN Ambassador George McGovern. . .

“Every Senator in this chamber is partly responsible for sending 50,000 young Americans to an early grave… This chamber reeks of blood…

it does not take any courage at all for a Congressman or a Senator or a President to wrap himself in the flag and say we are staying in Viet Nam, because it is not our blood that is being shed.”

He blamed his colleagues for having contributed to “that human wreckage all across our land — young men without legs or arms or genitals or faces — or hopes.”

Just change the place and numbers and the statement is as true today as it was then on the Senate floor.

Vet240
That is what has amazed me about McCain, the fact that he has some inkling of what military service is all about, and he still is lock step with the Shrub on Iraq.
Yeah, he was a fly boy, ‘home’ every night sleeping on clean sheets and eating in a mess hall rather than being on a lurp trying to eat cold rations.
But still, he had to had some idea of what war was all about, unlike the Shrub and Shootist who both dodged the draft.
Think how much better off this country and others would have been if their names could have been placed on the Wall.

McCheney has no shame. I swear he has Alzheimers.
Can’t he remember how it was for the troops in Vietnam? Oh, that’s right…He was a pilot. He wouldn’t know from his elbow what it’s like on the ground. And don’t give me that Hanoi Hilton routine.

This is what happens when a country is led by people who having a proven aversion to putting their butts on the line in combat.
That the government is having to bribe these troops into enlisting and re-upping says a lot about their mentality; everything has a price, damn if it is wrong.
During ‘Nam, troops and officers served 12 months in country and weren’t sent right back, unless they asked to return. Some did. Most were damn glad to ride in the passenger plane rather than the cargo plane.
The draft can’t come back unless the kids of the rich supporter’s of the GOP are exempt. And not even Der Karl could spin that.
Never before has this country sent troops into battle and then the troops had to write their folks asking for equipment, radio’s and armored vests in particular, to be sent to them. But the Shrub did it and thought nothing of it.
We all remember how Shrub and Laura took a whole 15 minutes to stop off at Walter Reed to “cheer up” the wounded troops and then suddenly it stopped.
At the time, I assumed that Laura had seen enough suffering and balked at going.
Now we know that she was sick of seeing the pitiful conditions these young people had to endure.
And the Shrub did absolutely nothing to change that. But he berated the Democrat’s for not supporting the troops.
One Republican Rep. did try to get Walter Reeds’ head man to improve things, but was loathe to address the issue in Congress, lest he was charged with failing to support the troops. That’s what he calls logic?
Now Shrub is willing to bring some troops home. But he will not admit the reason; he will either bring them home or extend their deployment yet again, as there are no replacements for them.

once i despised mccain,he has the same disgusting little smirk as the dictator in chief. then he won me over for 15 seconds. now i see him as the political opportunist he always was. more than that he is a sad old fool,with no real convictions. the pix truthdig used should have been dead soldiers.