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Posted on Sep 18, 2007
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A rep for the University of Florida said Meyer, 21, was asked to stop after his questioning went on too long and he became upset when the mike was cut off.

Guess he wasn’t in the “free speech zone”: University of Florida student Andrew Meyer apparently went on too long while asking Sen. John Kerry about his 2004 presidential run (among other questions) and was Tasered and arrested on Monday.  Did the police overreact?  That’s where Internet video comes in handy.


Local10.com:

As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry is heard to say, “That’s alright, let me answer his question.” Audience members applaud, and Meyer struggles to escape for several seconds as up to four officers try to remove him from the room.

Meyer screams for help and asks, “What did I do?” as he tries to break away from officers. He is forced to the ground and officers order him to stop resisting. Meyer says he will walk out if the officers let him go.

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student’s “very important question,” Meyer struggles on the ground and yells at the officers to release him, crying out, “Don’t Tase me, bro,” just before he is Tasered. He is then led from the room, screaming, “What did I do?”

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By Landis, September 24, 2007 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment
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this is a chilling representation of both police brutality and the suppression of ones freedom of speech rights. I have watched the video over and over and have yet to see that the student did anything that deserved such a violent response!! He was obviously very passionate about what he was speaking about, but he did not do anything that could be perceived as a threat.

how could the police taser him even after they have him on the ground? granted he was not cooperating, but tasers are for stopping a threat with out killing!! i didn’t see a threat!!

anyway i found all this info about the incident at this one website that also talks about the “daughters for sale” thing

http://www.newstrain.com/

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By archeon of thrace, September 19, 2007 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment

Everyone is legally entitled to resist illegal arrest.  You are legally allowed to defend yourself against cops when they are illegally assaulting you.  Being rude, childish, and irritating is not yet a crime.  But most importantly in this incident, Kerry indicated he wanted to answer this man’s questions, that being the case the pigs should have backed off and let the dialogue continue.

so for those of you who support the nazi gestapo police tactics, exactly what crime was Meyers committing?

As for “time limits” limiting free speech - they do.  Especially when questions are asked, and are then answered with “sorry we are out of time”!

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By storkk, September 19, 2007 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

and in response to comment #101361 by don knutsen:
That is quite the leap, comparing the public arrest of a kid obviously out for attention, and visibly resisting arrest (can you really argue that he wasn’t resisting arrest? Don’t muck around in the “he didn’t deserve to be arrested in the first place” crap, he was resisting arrest) to the lengthy detentions of enemy combatants. I suppose the next step is that if we think he deserved what he got, that we might as well be the operator of the nozzles in the gas chambers in Auschwitz?

Somehow, based on your extreme analogy, I think you probably are working up to that one. I could ALMOST see your analogy if this was a protestor at a Bush rally. But he was at a liberal Democrat’s town forum. I can’t believe that you are unable to see that he WANTED to make a spectacle. That he was going for youtube infamy, but took it too far, broke the law, and got his just desserts.

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By storkk, September 19, 2007 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

Regarding comment #101240 by rowdy:
Sorry you had a run-in with a overzealous off duty cop. Since you apply his actions now to all cops, I guess that means all blacks are rapists since a black man brutally raped and beat my aunt? Glad I can have good company like yours as I walk the streets ignorantly labeling an entire group of people for the actions of one (or a few). Thanks for the justification rowdy. I’ll see you at the next Klan rally or Monster Truck event, I am sure.

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By don knutsen, September 19, 2007 at 11:19 am Link to this comment

For all you blind rule followers out there, who think this college kid got what was coming to him. I wonder if, lets say hypothetically, you were wrongly accused by some over-exhuberant goverment spook of supporting terrorism. Lets say our emporer labeled you an enemy combatant. Your rights as a citizen would evaporate. You would be tossed in some undisclosed location, not given the oppurtunity of even hearing the charges, much less defending them. Your family will have no way to contact you. You rot in some cell for years until finally the goverment is forced to bring your case before a judge who promply tosses out the goverments assertions but basically says SOL. Those are the RULES under Cheney / Bu$h.This is what happened to 100’s of individuals who were snatched up by the Northern Alliance,  (the same guys who let Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora )who were paid for each individual they supplied us. These are not the actions of a goverment that believes in the principles our nation was founded under. These are the actions of a police state dictaorship. There were plenty of rule followers in Nazi Germany too. Apparently we haven’t progressed very far in the last 60 years when piling on a kid and poking him repeatedly with a cattle-prod is seen as justified by some of the rule lovers at all cost who have responded to this article here.

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By Don't Think for Yourself, September 19, 2007 at 11:17 am Link to this comment
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“Dumbfuckistan” is right on. I’d take my kid out that school in a second and organize a protest. This is injustice and brutality. He was already lying down and cuffed and then they tasered him! Kerry should have stepped in. He’s a sell out: America, Inc., “we care about you” (my ass).

Oh, I’ve got a Tase Me shirt too (I’m not keeping any money for myself):

goodstorm.com/stores/dropsoul

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By sharon ash, September 19, 2007 at 11:02 am Link to this comment
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I believe this young man staged this event, to purposefully create a scene.  I don’t know if he expected that a taser would be used on him, but it was.  Perhaps he learned something in college that day, that if you act disrespectful to others and create a disturbance, you may get more than a video for YouTube.  Do I think it was a little too strong armed from the police?  Sure, but if he had been a nut case like at Virginia Tech, then everyone would have also been complaining that the police had not done more if something bad had happened to others.  If he were my son who had done this and called home to complain about his treatment, I would just remind him that when you act like and asshole, you normally get treated like one.

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By Scott, September 19, 2007 at 10:52 am Link to this comment

I’ve been to many public meetings, even some quite heated ones over the years. I’ve attended these as a member of the public at large, as a presenter and as sitting member of various boards and committees. I’ve seen a few over-exuberant people now and then who can’t let go of some point or question they’re trying to make but what I’ve never seen was a need for a squad of security personel to bring order to a meeting.

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By Jeanine Molloff, September 19, 2007 at 8:32 am Link to this comment
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This young man was attacked by the police to serve as an example for any other dissenters.  Dare to question the powers-that-be and face arrest, brutality and possibly death.  These rent-a-cops from the university HAD NO RIGHT to interfere with a citizen questioning a public official.  All of the players involved—the university, the rent-a-cops, the town of Gainesville, the judge, should face civil rights charges, as they assaulted and arrested an individual for using his rights.  Senator Kerry should also be investigated (along with his secret service and private security entourage); for any complicity in this event.  I saw the entire video online—THIS YOUNG MAN HAD DONE NOTHING WRONG.  HE WAS WELL WITHIN HIS RIGHTS, AND THE RENT-A-COPS BEHAVED LIKE NAZI STORMTROOPERS.  KERRY AND HIS ENTOURAGE CAN MAKE ALL THE EXCUSES THEY LIKE; THEIR SILENCE ON THIS ONE WAS DEAFENING.  APPARENTLY, KERRY, LIKE HIS FELLOW SKULL & BONES COMPATRIOT—W. BUSH—FEELS HE IS ABOVE COMMON HUMANITY AND DECENCY.  HIS INACTION AT THIS ATROCITY ONLY DEMONSTRATES HIS PATRICIAN DISTASTE AND CONTEMPT FOR THE ‘PEOPLE’ WHO MUST RETAIN DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS AS A BULWARK AGAINST THESE PATHETIC WOULD-BE MONARCHISTS.  TIME TO INVESTIGATE THE UNIVERSITY AND KERRY’S ENTOURAGE.  TIME TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THESE OLIGARCHIC SNOBS—DOES ANYONE HAVE A GUILLOTINE HANDY?

JEANINE MOLLOFF

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By hwsthird, September 19, 2007 at 8:14 am Link to this comment

I agree that there are laws that should be enforced such as resisting arrest.
What I disagree with is when they are used to subdue a 21 yr old college student expressing his right to free speech, regardless of what we may know or have seen, the tazing was wrong!  Very fucking wrong.
Now that we are in this day of a police state, look back at Rodney King.  Was that right or wrong?  Ask yourself!
Look at Mostafa Tabatabainejad from UCLA.  Watch that video and then tell me that we are not in a police state.  Tell me that doesn’t give us the opportunity as a US citizen to step in and protect our rights!!!
Had I been there, I would have jumped in. In either case!!! As an AMERICAN, who believes in the Constitution, you should too.  If you do not,you’re a pussy and you deserve all that you are getting and going to get from the Neo-cons and Bush supporters.
Shame on you!  Shame on all of us if we do not wake the fuck up and fight for our civil and constitutional rights!!!!

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By RAE, September 19, 2007 at 8:11 am Link to this comment

Sorry folks, but in my world if you act like an immature, ignorant, boorish, inconsiderate, rude, out-of-self-control loudmouth, you get treated as such.

There are rules for every game (and believe me, everything to do with politics is a game). When you choose to ignore the rules you spend time in the penalty box.

I’m no cop lover or hater. Some are great. Some are a worse threat to civil society than the miscreants they’re charged with policing. But we have PROCESSES to deal with those, cop or not, who choose to act outside reason and law. Anarchy is not an acceptable alternative.

This fellow is LUCKY tasers were invented. Would he rather have been beaten unconscious with clubs?

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By storkk, September 19, 2007 at 6:05 am Link to this comment

I won’t broadly sweep my hand and say the lot of you defending this rabble-rouser, but it does seem to be a majority of you, are neglecting to mention, or ignorant of the fact that the question asked BEFORE him was to be the last question. And Andy Meyer was NOT the next person in line. He jumped to the front of the line at an open microphone. He WAS asked to leave. He refused. They tried to escort him out, he refused and resisted. At this point, it is resisting arrest. That, Don Knutsen, is why he should have been arrested. Because he was given multiple opportunities to leave peacefully, but refused them all.

Yes, you’re right, he was paying to go to this college, and had a right to be there and behave in a manner cohesive with the guidelines. So were all of the other kids in that auditorium. So because he doesn’t want to play by the rules, all of those other tuition paying students should have to be subjected to his asinine behavior?

Archeon of Thrace posted that time limits restricts free speech. So we should expect Senator Kerry to sit there for three days while every Tom Dick and Harry ask him questions? This is the real world, there are time constraints. He didn’t get his turn. Deal with it. You don’t get your turn every time in the real world. Welcome to life.

Andy was just looking to put another confrontational video on his website where he acts like a jerkoff for his friend’s amusement (incidentally, I purposely made that “friend’s” singular, I doubt he has more than one).

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By Steve, September 19, 2007 at 1:03 am Link to this comment
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You people who defend that little pissant make me sick. I don’t know if he needed to be escorted out or not but you don’t resist a cop and expect things to go well. Can you seriously tell me that guy didn’t deserve a little tasering. Come on. All he had to do was leave peacefully and he would have been fine.

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By rowdy, September 18, 2007 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment

resisting arrest. what a great fucking catch-all legal term that is.  lying harassing cops can hide behind that excuse to arrest any one that pisses them off. we hire brain dead idiots to enforce our laws. what community in the whole country, requires more than a high school diploma before handing someone a gun and the license to kill? is there any community that requires any kind of psychological testing of the police? most likely not. my favorite personal incident was 30 years ago. my wife and i were going to a friends house, 3 blocks from said friends house,we saw a flaming house. we stopped the car and went up to the house next door to the burning house and knocked on the door. the person answering met us with a gun and screamed at us to lie on the ground or he would shoot us. a full minute or more went by before we could convince this person that the house next door was burning up, and he should call the fire dept. there were no cell phones then,or we wouldn’t have bothered this fool. he was a cop, a total fucking moron. did this idiot answer all door knocks with a gun? it was still full daylight,in an all white community,was this asshole so threatened by a white 25 year old male and his wife,that he had to answer the door with a gun? i thought he was a deranged idiot, and even now i associate this kind of psychopathy with anyone carrying a badge. fuck the goddamned police,they don’t respect the citizens they are hired to protect so why should they be given any respect in return. back in the day we called them pigs, this was total disrespect for the farm animals and we should have known better

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By Dr Richard blackmoor, September 18, 2007 at 9:49 pm Link to this comment
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The cops were disgraceful and ANYONE who takes their side is no friend of Freedom.
  The cops around here steal money from people and threaten to arrest them if they do not hand over their wallet.(I have had this happen) 

Shoot unarmed people who are running away( I have seen this) and beat people who try to film their thuggery. ( I have seen this as well).
  The police of this country probably have a few good people but in the majority they are thugs and will protect themselves before they would protect the public.

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By rowdy, September 18, 2007 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment

resisting arrest. what a great fucking catch-all legal term that is.  lying harassing cops can hide behind that excuse to arrest any one that pisses them off. we hire brain dead idiots to enforce our laws. what community in the whole country, requires more than a high school diploma before handing someone a gun and the license to kill? is there any community that requires any kind of psychological testing of the police? most likely not. my favorite personal incident was 30 years ago. my wife and i were going to a friends house, 3 blocks from said friends house,we saw a flaming house. we stopped the car and went up to the house next door to the burning house and knocked on the door. the person answering met us with a gun and screamed at us to lie on the ground or he would shoot us. a full minute or more went by before we could convince this person that the house next door was burning up, and he should call the fire dept. there were no cell phones then,or we wouldn’t have bothered this fool. he was a cop, a total fucking moron. did this idiot answer all door knocks with a gun? it was still full daylight,in an all white community,was this asshole so threatened by a white 25 year old male and his wife,that he had to answer the door with a gun? i thought he was a deranged idiot, and even now i associate this kind of psychopathy with anyone carrying a badge. fuck the goddamned police,they don’t respect the citizens the are hired to protect so why should they be given any respect in return. back in the day we called them pigs, this was total disrespect for the farm animals and we should have known better

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By Louise, September 18, 2007 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment

#101154 by thomas billis on 9/18 at 1:44 pm
“I am amazed at reading the comments. I am 60 and lived through Vietnam and the ensuing protests. Have we become so sheeplike that there are people who would defend what happened in Florida?”

Yes, I think we have ... well, dumb animal-like anyway. I like the way Mike Rivero put it:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
“A taser is just a fancy name for a cattle prod. Except the taser is actually worse. But the mainstream media doesn’t want to use the word “cattle prod” because that exposes too much of the current government attitude towards the people.”

Which should give us all a pretty good idea what these political organizers really think of the people. Even some of those damn dems! Just prod the cattle along, so they can play their little games in their exclusive club, where they live only to pass around the money!

Besides, this was in Florida where the behavior of cops and security since 2001, has given them the reputation of being quite the Fascist state. Maybe they’re all Blackwater rejects.

I suspect Kerry had no idea how bad it has become.
But on the other hand, has he taken to the national mike to express his outrage at seeing a citizen physically attacked because he thought he had the right to speak? That would require having to decide which was most important, the money he raised or the citizens rights.

Well he made his choice when he said, “Whatever happened, the police had a reason, had made their decision that there was something they needed to do. Then it’s a law enforcement issue, not mine.”

Once again Kerry cops out. [pun intended]

The moderator, being a Floridian must be use to this kind of behavior from Florida cops, the order to silence any way possible probably came automatic. Cripe! They taser kids in grade school!

Democracy and Dissent Tasered Into Submission
[Great Op-ed]
by Anthony Wade
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_anthony__070918_democracy_and_dissen.htm

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. – Edward R. Murrow

“Did you get that America? A student who was attending an open forum at a school that he paid to attend, was asking a legitimate question during a question and answer period and was assaulted and tasered by police. What kind of democracy do we think we are capable of spreading anywhere in the world if this is what we practice at home???

I remember Vietnam too. I remember students getting shot with real bullets! I think the biggest difference between now and then was the congress. Even they yelled in outrage. Actually so did Kerry!

Whatever happened to that Kerry?

And those “Vietnam war supporters” whose generation lives on and replicates itself and loves war and the dead and dying [as long as it isn’t them] still believe we should have stayed in Vietnam, not smart enough to realize if we had, we’d still be there. In fact they are so blinded by hate and prejudice and stupidity, they still haven’t noticed Red China never did invade when we finally stopped sending our troops to the slaughter.

[Actually that’s not quite correct since China now owns a huge hunk of our national debt and manufactures just about everything we buy.]

And I guess that’s the point, the stupid who beat the war drums then, scream now, we can’t leave Iraq or the terrorists will get us!

They never change. They just multiply and replicate, and get dumber.

When it reaches the point where the cattle defend their prodders, the fascist state is complete.

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By P. T., September 18, 2007 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment

“I applaud Kerry for asking them to allow him to answer but he missed a golden moment to promote himself and the liberal cause when he didn’t jump down, rush to the fracas and demand that they unhand the student and let him speak.”


Kerry is a former prosecutor and knows what illegally interfering with an arrest is.

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By 911truthdotorg, September 18, 2007 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment

kerry’s complete lack of a reaction to this atrocity is the exact reason why I am no longer a “pussocrat”.
I won’t be associated with those cowards and bush enablers.

He’s a Skull and Bones-er like his master bush so he probably enjoyed the show.

He probably made a Bonesman agreement with bush not to contest the 2004 election. They are one and the same.

“There’s three things to remember: claim everything, explain nothing, deny everything.” — Senator Prescott Bush (Skull and Bones, 1917)

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By archeon of thrace, September 18, 2007 at 7:19 pm Link to this comment

Tobad this didn’t turn into a riot, with the rent-a-cops getting their asses kicked.

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By P. T., September 18, 2007 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment

The moderator of the questioning session seemed to get mad that she was not being obeyed, and then sicked the campus cops on the guy.

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By P. T., September 18, 2007 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

I’ve seen people act like they were the only ones at an event who had any questions, but I’ve never seen Gestapo tactics before in dealing with such persons.

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By archeon of thrace, September 18, 2007 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

I did not imply that I am happy the shrub is president.  I am not happy that he is, and I agree he is not a protector of civil rights nor of the constitution.  But the shrub was not at this forum, he was not on stage only Kerry was, and he should have taken control of the situation.

The police in this case over stepped thier authority, when Kerry indicated he was going to answer this man’s questions they should have stepped back and allowed the interchange to continue.

This man was not being violent, he was not being rude, he was not using offensive language (unless you count BLOWJOB, maybe that was what set the cops off), he was simply being passionate and forceful.  You may all notice too, that he was keeping his hands up - this is unversally concidered non threatening.

Notice too, in the video we can see one of the “suits” indicating to one of the people video tapping to turn the camera off.

Also important is that Kerry acknowledged this student and was engaged in a “dialogue” with him.  Kerry was talking to him, I don’t understand why the police move in, and I don’t understand who decided to cut off the mike.

Kerry demostrated exactly what kind of pussy assed old man he has become.  It is too bad to see the brave anti war activist from the 1970’s reduced to being a paid spokes castrati for the moneyed corporate elites.  I can’t however decide if this worse than being a wooden spokes puppet for the same group.

This incident illustrates perfectly the dangers of the taser that were pointed out when the police forces first asked for them.  That because they are seen as non-lethal (ie harmless) the officers will be more and more likely to use them.  I think that this incident, along with the others that have recently come to light, shows that not only are the police taser-happy, but that they are being trained to use them at the slightest and earliest opportunity and provocation.  What kind of shitty training are these Florida cops getting?  Six cops can’t simply corral one guy and quietly escort him out of the hall?

Like some have said before, the cops would not have handled a woman or a person of colour this way.  I suppose this young man is guilty of “dissention while being white and male”.

Tolerance only of those who do not irritate or offend us, is not tolerance.

BTW, for a while I thought it was Bill Oreilly at the mike.

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By CHARLIE KASNICK, September 18, 2007 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment
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MAKES ME REMEMBER,
            ALLISON KRAUSE
            JEFFREY MILLER
            SANDRA SCHEUER
            WILLIAM SCHROEDER
THEIR LEGACEY MUCH FORGOTTEN,MAKE ME SAD,AND THEN MAD
THAT MY COUNTRY FORGOT!

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By P. T., September 18, 2007 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment

“From the way Kerry seems to have handled himself during this, it makes me glad he never was president.”


Yeah, Bush protects our freedom.  lol

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By Outraged, September 18, 2007 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

RE: #101106 by Mike on 9/18

You said:
“I would personally put my boot in your face if you got within 10 feet of those officers.”

But right before that you state:
“free speech doesn’t include violence.”

Maybe you need to take a good look in the mirror.  What you’re advocating is ONLY YOUR OPINION COUNTS.  Which is a denial of the free speech rights in this country.  You are a fool.  It’s ironic, you say to Don, “with all due respect”  since it is starkly apparent you have no respect for another human being unless they buy into your inadequacies.

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RE: #101081 by don knutsen on 9/18

Good for you Don, you’re absolutely right.
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Simply being rude is NOT a reason to arrest someone.  Yes, I’ll agree with other posters that this questioner appeared a bit passionate or emotionally moved, however, that is not a reason to squelch his voice or ARREST him.  He should been asked to move aside if more than a few minutes of his time had expired.  They could have easily turned off his mike and asked him to leave, had he refused he could have been escorted out without incident.  ARRESTING him shows police incompetence and intolerance.

The police (or rent-a-cops) had NO VALID REASON to arrest him.  They didn’t like him.  THAT is not a reason to ARREST someone.  TOO BAD.  Maybe he didn’t like them either.  SO WHAT.

ARRESTING him was illegal since he hadn’t broken the law.  He resisted because they were overstepping their bounds and instigating a confrontation, which is illegal for police to do.  They are sworn to uphold THE LAW not their personal agendas.  I find it highly unlikely that they would have pursued it in this manner had there only been one of them, so they abused their power and used the ol’ “might makes right” ideology.

Their use of tasers was wantonly abusive.  They decided to be judge, jury and corporal punishment right then and there. THAT’S ILLEGAL!  The use of the taser was an act of aggression meant to “teach him a lesson”, sadly the only lesson learned is just how abusive some police officers are.  This of course will put the “fear of god” in the rest of the attendees now won’t it.  One has to consider WHY would these officers want everyone to be afraid of them.  They should be fired and NEVER allowed to be police officers or in a position of authority EVER.

If being a rude stage hog is CAUSE to arrest and taser someone, then it follows that we should ARREST AND TASER: Bill O’Really, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter…..etc.

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By archeon of thrace, September 18, 2007 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment

Speech with time limits cannot be free.
Speech with content limits cannot be free.

Frome the way Kerry seems to have handled himself during this, it makes me glad he never was president.  What a wet dish rag!  Why on earth he didn’t step in to difuse this, what a coward.

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By thomas billis, September 18, 2007 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment
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I am amazed at reading the comments.I am 60 and lived through Vietnam and the ensuing protests.Have we become so sheeplike that there are people who would defend what happened in Florida.Has our debate in this country become so passive that someone asking a question of a politician is rushed by police and when not understanding why is tasered.Be careful when you in a meeting with your boss you do not go over the allotted time and when they come to arrest you whatever you do do not ask why.This was for John Kerry to handle not the police.Comedians handle hecklers all the time without tasering or arrests.If we are allowed to heckle our comedians I do not think it damages the republic to be able to heckel politicians without the fear of arrest or tasering.You people who are defending the police’s action in this event do not worry when they take away your right to speak and taser you many of the people on Truth Dig and the ACLU will be there to fight for you.

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By don knutsen, September 18, 2007 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment

Well Mike, you know what makes me sick. Blind idiotic rule followers who can’t see anything wrong with 5 cops piled on a college student shooting 40k volts into his chest. Lemmings like yourself, who just go along with it all are a big part of the problem. I’m sorry you won’t get the chance to try and put your boot in my face ( I really am )...

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, September 18, 2007 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

I contend that what has been lacking in our society is fair exchange of rational ideas, especially on controversial issues.  There has been no open dialogue on the Iraq war; we’re told what and how to think.  The one-minute limit, while probably fair, is a convenient way for gov. authorities to control dialogue.  I applaud Kerry for asking them to allow him to answer but he missed a golden moment to promote himself and the liberal cause when he didn’t jump down, rush to the fracas and demand that they unhand the student and let him speak.  All which makes me question Kerry’s motives and his sincerity.
I say, when there’s a chance to debate openly, frankly and constructively critically, fuck the stupid one-minute rule.  If the guy turns out to be a raving lunatic, then taser him if he won’t go.  I also say, let’s have tasers ready, on stage, at the next candidate debates, both parties.  I’m sorry. There I go again.

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By P. T., September 18, 2007 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

“You say you don’t understand why the students didn’t jump in? Are you kidding me? I would personally put my boot in your face if you got within 10 feet of those officers.”


Oh, wow.  I’m scared.  smile

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By don knutsen, September 18, 2007 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

re: storkk - Not saying that the police should have tasered him, but he was technically resisting arrest.

Why should he have been getting arrested in the first place ? He was asking questions a hell of alot of people would be interested in hearing Kerry’s answer to. He may have been over-rought - but guess what, a whole bunch of us out here feel the same way watching these idiots in the White House performance each day. They could have let him continue. Its called free speech, it used to be practiced all the time in this country. No one was being abused by his lack of political correctness. Perhaps more people, standing up and demanding some answers is exactly what we need FINALLY. How about we all try alittle more of that.

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By Chris, September 18, 2007 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment
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The tazer was justified?  give me a break

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By Ashley, September 18, 2007 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment
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DO something about it. If we don’t stop the law enforcement from quieting our free speech with VIOLENCE then imagine what the future could bring. We have to speak up about the injustice in this incident, and make law enforcers across the nation aware that though we civillians are walking around without our own weapons, does NOT mean the police officers should be able to use that against us, and taser us whenever they like.

This student posed no threat to the speaker or the group - in fact the speaker said “It’s alright, let me answer his question” - this is CLEAR evidence that he did not feel threatened. If we lose our right to free speech then how will we be able to question authority ever again? And how will we be able to exchange ideas?

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By Howard, September 18, 2007 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

What is most stunning and noteworthy here is not the student or Kerry or the police or the taser…..but the comments here that AGAIN bring in, now get ready for this, the Zionist Lobbby as a factor!  Can you imagine?
This same comment is brought forward in most articles on this site needlessly.  But here this article certainly has nothing to do with Zeus or the Zionist lobby—.
How about a rational discussion on other comments made here on the student’s possible fault, or the police, or something relevant?

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By peedeecee, September 18, 2007 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment

Um, hello? A student doesn’t wait his turn at the microphone, refuses to give it up, takes too long, interrupts, swears, or anything else—and he gets tasered?

I don’t think so. People can tell him to sit down, shut up, wait his turn, etc., yell at him; the speaker can ask him to relinquish the microphone—but taser him?

The police now taser people for bad manners while they are practicing free speech?

Hello, US? What has happened to you? At worst, the kid was being a pain in the neck. That’s all.

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By peedeecee, September 18, 2007 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

Um, hello? A student doesn’t wait his turn at the microphone, refuses to give it up, takes too long, interrupts, swears, or anything else—and he gets tasered?

I don’t think so. People can tell him to sit down, shut up, wait his turn, etc., yell at him; the speaker can ask him to relinquish the microphone—but taser him?

The police now taser people for bad manners while they are practicing free speech?

Hello, US?

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By John Borowski, September 18, 2007 at 1:05 pm Link to this comment
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Let me tell you about a small town out west. I think it was in Oregon. A woman had a T-shirt on with a favorable comment about Kerry. She was walking down the street. Totally unaware that the Bush parade was passing through her small town. The right wing goon squad came to her and told her to put that T-shirt inside out. She adamantly refused and was beaten and arrested. After she was jailed for the night, she went to the judge the next morning and had to pay a $250 dollar fine.

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By Dan, September 18, 2007 at 11:49 am Link to this comment
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If I were that student I would get myself a good lawyer and sue. Those cops clearly provoked the situation and they were clearly in the wrong. Maybe the bigger question is “What has happened to the law enforcement we once trusted?” All it takes is a simple google search to find police officers that on these out of control power trips. I was always lead to believe a police officers’ motto should be “I am here to enforce the law” NOT “I am the law”

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By Mike, September 18, 2007 at 11:39 am Link to this comment
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Don,

With all due respect first of all.. this article doesn’t mention the fact the student approached the microphone out of turn and without permission. Second, it also didn’t mention that the student made threatening gestures towards the first officers who tried to get him to sit down. Third, of course Kerry would answer the question, it makes him look good.

You need to stop being so naive and quit watching your Michael Moore movies, free speech doesn’t include violence, which is exactly what this student was using.

You say you don’t understand why the students didn’t jump in? Are you kidding me? I would personally put my boot in your face if you got within 10 feet of those officers. The kid had no intention of going without a fight, a fight that he started. You really make me sick you know?

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By 1drees, September 18, 2007 at 11:11 am Link to this comment
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well this incident does indicate the decaying freedoms in USA under the Zionistic lobby that is abusing teh privelages extended to the Zionist population by the Naive people of America who thought that these were nice people under attack for no reason BUT now people know different.

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By Yorick, September 18, 2007 at 11:10 am Link to this comment

It’s official. We are officially living in a fascist state. I hope the student can sue the police for this treatment. What is most disappointing is that, first, the audience claps when the student is dragged away and (except for one woman who screamis, “Stop that” when they taser him) they all just sit there passively as the young man screams for help; and second, that Kerry, although he is willing to answer the question, says nothing to the police. He has a microphone. Couldn’t he have said, please stop that, let him go. It might not have worked, but they might have listened to him.

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By vmracer, September 18, 2007 at 10:57 am Link to this comment
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Ron, not a matter of violating his free speech. After all, he was allowed to say anything he wished but, was confined to the time alloted to every other speaker before him. Anyone but a self-centered jerk would have stepped aside. If anything he was interfering with the freedom of speach of others. Having said all that, the remainder of your comments (rent-a-cop? Bro Jeb?) peg you as the ignorant liberal fool you are. But in the name of equal opportunity, you are forgiven. Just do us all a favor and keep your undergraduate level of intellect to yourself. PS, in the future, when it is your turn to resist arrest, be sure to call the cop a BRO!

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By Suresh K., September 18, 2007 at 10:57 am Link to this comment
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Student asked valid questions to Kerry… such as Why he’s not pushing ahead with articles of impeachment against Bush for crimes against humanity in Iraq and on the Gulf Coast after Katrina… when Clinton was impeached for a simple sexual affair that was his family affair, not nation’s. And, one thing this student asked that I have always asked is, who made John Kerry concede the morning after elections when ballots in Ohio were still being counted? To be honest, say whatever you want to, Gore pulled off for a month before conceding in 2000, but Kerry took little over 24 hours. Plus, everyone knows the American voting system was full of errors before 2000, in the year 2000, in 2004, and will be in 2008, and no one has done anything about it. Patriot Act has gone out of control to an extent that we don’t even have guarantee that judges and lawyers and prosecutors won’t be politically biased anymore, not that they weren’t before, but now they really are. We have KKK/Neo-NAZI/KGB style thugs running a democratic nation and no one is doing anything about it. We have two wars gone wrong in just a single presidential term, two nations trying to build nuclear bombs against us because we’re stuck in Iraq, and we have homeless and jobless people defaulting on their home mortages because some crooks who toook bribes from credit band banking industry passed regulations that were more favorable to the giant hyper-capitalist finance industry than to an ordinary citizen.  Student had valid questions… Kerry should have ordered the police officers to stop the attack on student, calm him down, and answer few questions he had. Politicians should not go into college campus at times when everything for youth and the nation’s going into the wrong direction and expect everyone to just sit like a lunatic and stare at their faces and not react and ask tough questions.

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By storkk, September 18, 2007 at 10:55 am Link to this comment

Don,
Not saying that the police should have tasered him, but he was technically resisting arrest. And in the spirit of the MLK’s and such, resisting arrest plays no role in constructive civil disobedience. When you don’t do what an law enforcement officer tells you to do over and over again, chances are, you will get tasered. He can’t resist, resist, resist, then say “ok, I’ll walk out if you let me stand up”. You only get so many chances to do what is asked of you. And yes, laws like “disrupting the peace” or whatever it was, are intentionally written in vague terms so that they can silence people like him, and they had every right to ask him to lean for his combative approach.
As far as too many young republicans being there to stand up and do something… do you have any idea what party affiliation John Kerry is? Do you really think that young republicans would be showing up to support him? Come on, don’t make inflammatory remarks for the sake of inflammatory remarks.

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By Fools on the Hill, September 18, 2007 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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Meyer’s was acting very strange.  Jumping up and down, running towards the stage, waving his book, and yelling.  Very likely the police were just going to escort him outside but the class clown wanted to make a scene and continue to disrupt the forum.

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By don knutsen, September 18, 2007 at 10:21 am Link to this comment

A disgracefull example of how far we have gone down the path away from what used to be a functioning democracy. This student had valid questions for Kerry. Kerry seemed willing to answer them. But this student made the mistake of thinking free speech was still a right every american had in one of the states within dumbfuckistan. These rent-a-cop security guards should be at the very least fired and have assault charges brought on them. But, sadly not much chance of that in Bro Jeb’s state. I would hope some benefactor could step up and provide this student the funds to bring charges against that university. No american should be treated such from simply trying to voice an opinion in a public place. Unfortunately this student appears to me in a minority. Something in stark contrast to the college students during Vietnam. I don’t see how a room full of college kids could just stand by and watch this without jumping in to help. Probably too high a ratio of young republicans in the mix I guess.

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By Cam Winters, September 18, 2007 at 10:15 am Link to this comment
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Another day in Bush’s America
Home of the free…..whatever

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By Thomas Mc, September 18, 2007 at 10:05 am Link to this comment
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Parents of students should seriously question whether their child is safe at that school, if their politics are not sufficiently conservative for the fascist thugs that patrol the campus.

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