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Giuliani’s Three-Pronged Ad Assault

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Posted on Sep 14, 2007
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Placing ads and taking names: Giuliani’s anti-anti-Petraeus ad ran in the New York Times on Friday.

Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani tried to diss The New York Times, Sen. Hillary Clinton and MoveOn.org all at once by placing his own advertisement in the paper to counter MoveOn.org’s critique of Gen. David Petraeus, claiming The Times had played favorites with their ad sales policy.


New York Daily News:

In one of the more transparent stunts of the 2008 presidential race, Giuliani began the day by accusing The Times of selling the Democrat-friendly MoveOn.org a “heavily discounted” ad on Monday that cast U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus as “General Betray Us.”

Republican candidates have blasted the ad as an unpatriotic smear of a revered general, and [Thursday] Republican Giuliani accused The Times, MoveOn.org and Democratic presidential foe Clinton—who has refused to denounce the ad—of engaging in “character assassination.”

“What we should move on with ... is a civil discourse without name-calling,” Giuliani said in Atlanta—after demanding that his campaign be given the same “discounted rate” to run a pro-Petraeus ad {Friday].

But Giuliani's facts were challenged. Any advocacy group seeking to place a single, full-page, black-and-white ad in The Times on "standby" over a seven-day period -- the paper picks the day -- pays what MoveOn.org did, $64,575, sources said.

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By voice of truth, September 18, 2007 at 10:09 am Link to this comment

Its funny how you nutbags are using this to go repeat your mantras against Guiliani, which actually has nothing to do with the point of the article!

The point of this is the NYT giving 60% discounts to some, and not to others.  Though since hypocrit liberals believe that “the end justifies the means”, no one would see anything wrong with this.

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By PACRAT, September 16, 2007 at 5:52 pm Link to this comment
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Giuliani, isn’t he the self-proclaimed hero of 9/11 who made zero plans when he had been tipped off a couple years earlier by the first bombing of the Trade Centers that they would be the next ground zero - again? The country needs him like another hole in the head!

And he thinks that because general petraeus and his medals shouldn’t be criticized by anyone at anytime?

What’s his judgement worth?

Teamed up with representative “bonehead” Bohnert from Ohio who thinks that the number of deaths of our troops in Iraq isn’t too bad, considering.

Wouldn’t they make a great white house team?

Wow, wouldn’t everyone feel safe with our troops fighting over there so that they can’t defend us here?

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By rowdy, September 16, 2007 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment

it’s amazing that one ad could cause such furor. the furor is because the ad spoke the truth. the lying scumbags of both parties don’t want us to have the truth. the truth shows both parties to be the self serving pigs they really are. 2 minutes ago my phone rang, “i’m sharon calling on behalf of john edwards”. my reply; “fuck edwards and hilary too”. these democratic pussies have a lot of nerve saying move on went too far. this ad caused me to do something i have never done before, i sent $50.00 to move on. somebody needs to call these administration lackeys out for the liars they are. hilary and edwards sure as hell aren’t going to do it. hilary salivates over the prospect of becoming the imperial president herself. she’ll anoint herself with exxon oil just as fast as dick cheney or bush.

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By don knutsen, September 16, 2007 at 9:32 am Link to this comment
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Guiliani is the poster kid of sleazy, oppurtunistic politics in America. He has been on talk shows excaiming that bu$h was annointed by God to be our president at this time. He and Tim Russert actually had that discussion on TV. I had to rush to the knob to shut it off before my breakfast came back up. He shamelessly used 9-11 as a platform, basking in the bullshit that he handled that tragedy well. Ask the fireman and policeman who were there if they agree.. Guiliani has steadfastly been one of bu$h’s biggest cheerleaders. He is indicative of a political party that has completely lost its way, forgotten about the needs of the common man / women in our country, supported war even when it was based on lies, supported a federal deficit that will be the burden of our children’s future, supported privatizing every facet of goverment until it literally is un-fixable…its no longe the people’s goverment. It belongs to corporations…we are spirally down the crapper and all the while Guiliani and most of the GOP supports it…

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By thomas billis, September 15, 2007 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment
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Why attack what anyone else is saying?Rudy and all the other Republican candidates except for Ron Paul have stated that they beleive the policies of this administration are just fine with them.So why do they not just sit back and bask in the reflected glory of George Bush’s brilliance.It is funny the Democrats attack Bush and the republicans attack the democrats.They do not defend Bush.Maybe they can find an article in the Singapore gazette to attack rather than defending their own stated positions.When the policy you are backing sucks make the debate about something different.If the American people are stupid enough to buy it they deserve Rudy Giuliani as President.Unfortunately it will take the rest of us down with them.Of course Rudi beleives in family values.Manson family values.

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By DennisD, September 15, 2007 at 11:15 am Link to this comment
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Rudy, your 15 minutes of fame were up a long time ago. Please just go and stay away and take the rest of the phonies from both parties with you. That may actually leave someone worth voting for.

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By mullah cimoc, September 15, 2007 at 10:42 am Link to this comment
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mullah cimoc say Giuliani him make big ashame for all ameriki.

him take him slut to live in government house while still the marry?  Am this “conservative value” ameriki? 

him business partner kerrick Giuliani almost make the homeland security czar of usa but now the investigate and hearing of the whores and the rich man condo on policeman salary.  Am him the clean police?  Conservative values ameriki?

him to serving the homosexual and disobey him bible, but still acting the proud.  him to wanting man to marry man, man to marry donkey, and woman to marry the woman.  so sick and show the destroy of ameriki society.

him Giuliani to obey every command of masters in tel aviv.  him like puppet on fish line.  am this make the geo. washington and benjamin frankling proud?

now the republican of ameriki having so many the gay homosexual like the kink sex act, corruption and cruel—-now just opposite—-not the family value, this the filthy corruption and amerika to be suffer maybe the earthquaking so terrible?

for him true info:  .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) for him aemriki learn.

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By wagonjak, September 15, 2007 at 9:59 am Link to this comment
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Apparently Gulianni payed the same amount for his ad that MoveOn was charged.

What a friggin hypocrite, but that’s nothing new for Republican Presidential candidates….

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By felicity, September 15, 2007 at 9:31 am Link to this comment

Why is this guy one of the front runners in what some call the campaign for the presidency but is actually a mind-numbing, never ending display of confirmed narcissists hip-hopping the country seeking nothing but the satisfaction of their lust for self-importance. 

Of course that’s why Guiliani is one of the front runners - he does narcissism so well.

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By weather, September 15, 2007 at 7:09 am Link to this comment

Rudy your Father and Walter Barra are spinning in their graves.
You had at one time big balls and integrity - what happened when w/in just days after 9/11 you flew to Israel, did they promise you the blackHouse?
Interesting too the investment banking house Giuliani Partners upon leaving office.

Rudy you took the brown bag and its sad, you were my hero once.

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By PACRAT, September 15, 2007 at 2:35 am Link to this comment
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Loser Guliani’s “ad”

Does anyone really take this creep seriously? Isn’t it time for him to fess up that he was at the site of the 9/11 NYC tragedy only when notables showed up or there were photogs notified in advance that he would show up the several times he actually did?

The nation’s mayor?

Isn’t this the guy who didnt prepare for the tragedy after being warned by the first towers’ attack?

Isn’t this the guy who cut comminications items that would have permitted coordination between city forces out of the budget?

Wasn’t this the guy who cleaned the streets of NYC by forcing the street poor to beg elsewhere?

Isn’t this guy the phony running for the republican presidential nomination?

Which of his families are standing behind him?

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By Ron Ranft, September 14, 2007 at 9:47 pm Link to this comment
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The Voice of Truth? Like Guiliani, these morally bankrupt anti-American sorry excuse for humans try to hide their lies in names that bely what they are. Everything that the Move0n.org ad said was true. Pretaeus sat in front of 2 committees and flat out lied to them about what is going on in Anbar. Pretaeus said that he was not arming the Sunnis. A reporter, an American, from Al Jazeera has just done and extensive report on the Sheik that Bush was photoed with. This guy was as crooked as they come. Pretaeus has had his guys hand out money to the Sunni’s like it was going out of print. That money was then used to buy weapons. Bush and his military friends cooked the books to make it look like the surge has worked. The figures don’t jibe with those of the people who are in a better situation to know. And nobody said that that the ad wasn’t purposely run when when it did. It wouldn’t have been an effective or useful ad otherwise.

Petraeus is a willing liar, because he said he could make the Surge and it hasn’t and he was selected by a President who also wants to make it appear that it has worked and we know that he will do anything or tell any lie to make it so!

And Guliani is cut from the same mold as Bush as we are already counting the lies he has been caught in! So you are either a paid apologist for the GOP/Guliani camp or you are just as deluded as your heroes!

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By boggs, September 14, 2007 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

Is Rudy gay, or just a cross dresser?
I know he likes women because he marries many.
Rudy will find that it doesn’t pay to advertise against free speech for Move-On,
because they have the resources to counter his attacks and I personally hope they don’t let him get away with anything.
I’d best get a donation in the mail!
Sorry Rudy, you are gonna lose this one.
YOU BIG FAKE!

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By P. T., September 14, 2007 at 4:41 pm Link to this comment

Rudy is a liar.  Republican Congressman Ron Paul is right about him.  The man is unfit to be president.  He should work instead on his family values.

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By Pablo, September 14, 2007 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment

Another wolf in sheeps clothing, this Giuliani is… or is it a wolf in woman’s clothing?

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By DASM, September 14, 2007 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment
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So in effect, Rudy’s a liar.  Again.

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By Bob Zimmerman, September 14, 2007 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment
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The General Betray-us ad is right on the mark. If you read the ad Move-On.org is saying the General’s testimony is compromised. This is a rerun of General Powell’s comments at the U.N. Move-on.org is not going to be fooled twice by a supposedly squeaky clean general. And when did generals become immune to criticism? McArthur and Eishenhower got plenty of it during their time. This is yet another Republican smoke screen to take the heat off of their stupid decisions in not only going to war in the first place but in the incompetent way the war was excecuted by Bush’s neo-con cronies.

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By Outraged, September 14, 2007 at 2:24 pm Link to this comment

Here we go with the cry-baby tactics again, will the repukes ever stop.  The poor conspiracy theorists, about petty-ass namby-pamby nothing.  Grow up Giuliani, you screwed yourself.  What no soap box or staged photo op. with the firefighters and police?  You sad sack.

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By ocjim, September 14, 2007 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment

Though I think Giuliani is a fraud, that doesn’t make him too much different than other candidates. Running now as a Republican, some of his past policies will score points, he cut education funding in NYC by six billion, and chased out the homeless. And some won’t, he embraced illegal immigrants and granted legal rights to gay couples. I wonder if Republican supporter even know this.

His neglect of WTC workers and claims of working equal times is rather repugnent, as is his current posturing with the NT Times. Image is everything though and his handlers probably think this will score points.

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By Voice of Truth, September 14, 2007 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
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there is no way the “standby” method was used.  There is no way that the add ran the same day as the General was to appear before Congress just by coincidence.  Give me a break.

And the add was a disgrace.

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