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U.N. Throws Native People a BonePosted on Sep 13, 2007
After 22 years of debate and opposition (not to mention centuries of exploitation and genocide), the United Nations has finally approved the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, a nonbinding treaty meant to promote the human, territory and resource rights of native people around the world. Only four nations voted against the measure: the U.S., Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
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By INDIANWOMAN, September 18, 2007 at 10:18 am #
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I believe the comments by Australia’s Andrew Bolt reflect the sentiments of the four countries that voted against the Declaration: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22442211- 5000117,00.html .
Report thisThis will be an election issue in both Australia and Canada by governments
that claim to be democracies supporting equality.
By hippy pam, September 16, 2007 at 11:32 am #
AND HOW THE WASCHICUN INVADERS WILL WHINE WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY HAVE BEEN INVADED BY ALL THE “GUESTS” OUR GOVERNMENT HAS “INVITED” HERE.THE INVADERS CAME HERE BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS REPRESSION AND BIGOTRY IN THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN.THEN THEY REPRESSED OUR RELIGION AND OUR WAY OF LIFE.THEY FORCED US TO ACCEPT THEIR BELIEFS.NOW THEY TRY TO DO THIS TO OTHER COUNTRIES.THEY NEED TO HEED-WHAT GOES AROUND,COMES BACK AROUND.
Report thisBy TAO Walker, September 16, 2007 at 10:30 am #
RAE’s cavalier dismissal (#100368) of reminders about the Europeans’ continuing genocidal assault on the Native Peoples of Turtle Island (and just about everywhere else in the world) as “whining,” betrays the same sort of might-makes-right mentality that RAE him/herself has complained about, as it’s practiced by the ruthless rich, in a number of comments appended to other articles published by “truthdig.com”. S/he doesn’t sound so sanguine about the-law-of-the-jungle, either, when that shoe is pinching his/her own foot.
RAE and others who wish Native Peoples would just shut-up and either go-away or “....learn to play the (wasichus’) game,” seem still blissfully ignorant of the sickening effects that “game” is having on their own lives, here in these latter days. Few seem to’ve realized yet that everything threatening theirownselfs right now, along with all they profess to hold dear, is the inevitable outcome of “the game.” So is the self-inflicted “....DISHONOR....” RAE slaphappily tries to blame on “....our leadership....”
Anyway, us surviving free wild natural Human Beings have not been “conquered.” Much of Indian Country is presently “occupied” by invaders hellbent on converting our Living Arrangement into a toxic industrial wasteland, but these fools, and the alien “civilization” they’ve sought futilely to transplant here, are even now being rejected by our Mother Earth.
As this endgame plays-out, and the predator classes turn ever more viciously on once compliant and complicit “white folk,” we’ll see how willing and able RAE is to “Get used to it.” When “Work(ing) around it....” is no longer an option, the domesticated nations might find in us Ickche Wichasha a Way to actually LIVE through it.
HokaHey!
Report thisBy ceti, September 15, 2007 at 5:19 am #
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The title of this thread is pretty insulting. The draft resolution was first introduced by members of the Haudenoshaunee Confederacy way back 1976 and has been taken up as a cause celebre amongst the thousands of indigenous nations throughout the world. The fact that the four Anglo colonies opposed this, when most of Latin America did not, represents yet another example of a chilling contempt for international conventions, but is not surprising given their racist past. Much poorer countries with serious territorial integrity issues agreed to this, why couldn’t the countries that grew rich on genocide and plunder? (although therein lies the answer).
Report thisBy RAE, September 14, 2007 at 7:09 am #
purplewolf wrote: “It’s been 500 years, we want our land back.”
I sympathize… but it just ain’t going to happen. Your continent was invaded by a superior force and you native folk lost it. Time to move on.
In spite of the “white man’s” best efforts at genocide, your tribes have survived.
Despite the fact that the “white man’s” word isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, you native folk simply have no choice but to learn to play the game according to the “white man’s” rules… AND THEN BEAT HIM AT IT.
There have been some spectacular successes in both Canada and the US - thousands of square miles are now owned by First Nations groups (albeit none of this land happens to contain much more than wilderness). But New York City was at one time wilderness too - so don’t give up hope.
If it’s any consolation to you, my Native friends, many of us “white folk” are deeply and profoundly ashamed of how our leadership has lied and cheated and dishonored us in our dealings with you. Again, if it’s any consolation, our leadership LIES and CHEATS and DISHONORS us “white folk” every bit as much as they screw you.
Many First Nations bands/tribes have learned how to play “the game” and now enjoy riches and power. Those First Nations groups who insist on whining about past losses and poverty and addiction and lack of opportunity, etc., etc., etc., need to consult with their fellow First Nations groups who’ve succeeded.
Whining… whether you’re white or native just ain’t going to get you anywhere.
The UN Declaration of Human Rights and now this new one focussed on Indigenous Peoples are NON-BINDING aiming points. Someday the entire world may get there… but it won’t be in our lifetimes. There’s just too many greedy people who stand to make too much money and who have too much power to ever let a “right” stand in their way to amassing their fortunes. That’s the way it is. Get used to it. Work around it. Find your own way to live an honorable life. It won’t be handed to you by those in charge.
Report thisBy hippy pam, September 14, 2007 at 5:08 am #
BUT IT WASN’T YOUR LAND TO BEGIN WITH.IT WAS STOLEN FROM THE RIGHFUL OWNERS TO BE “HELD IN TRUST FOR AS LONG AS THE RIVERS FLOW,THE WINDS BLOW AND THE SUN SHINES”.ALL TREATIES SAID THE SAME B.S.AND THE TREATIES WERE RENEGOTIATED EVERY TIME THAT “THE LAND"[you cannot own Mother Earth or Father Sun Or the Winds or the Water]WAS DESIRED BY THIEVES BECAUSE IT CONTAINED GOLD,URANIUM OR OIL..OR JUST BECAUSE SOME IMMIGRANT DECIDED HE WANTED A PLACE TO RAISE HIS “BROOD”.I AM A HALF-BREED BECAUSE OF ALL THAT AND NOT VERY PROUD OF MY “INVADER HERITAGE”
Report thisBy Frikken Kids, September 14, 2007 at 4:19 am #
Giving “their land” back to native populations is a great idea that any reasonable person can support - until it’s his or her property that a group of natives suddenly decrees is theirs. Then the idea loses it’s luster.
Report thisBy hippy pam, September 14, 2007 at 2:03 am #
NOT ONE TREATY BETWEEN THE WHITE GOVERNMENT AND THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OF TURTLE ISLAND WAS EVER HONORED.
Report thisTHE THIEVES JUST “RENEGOTIATED” WITH GUNS IN HAND AGAINST STARVING PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN PUSHED OFF THEIR LANDS.MOST TREATIES STATE"THESE LANDS SHALL BE HELD IN TRUST”......THE NATIVE CHILDREN WERE TAKEN FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND PUT IN CARLISLE SCHOOLS TO BE “EDUCATED"-NOT ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR LANGUAGE-DENIED THEIR RELIGION-
DENIED THEIR HERITAGE-AND NOW DENIED THE LAND THAT IS BEING"HELD IN TRUST"[Nobody put a time limit on the “trust” so if the wait is long enough ALL native blood peoples will be"dust and bones” and THE THIEVES WON’T HAVE TO RETURN ANYTHING.DOES ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE THAT ONCE “AMERICA” GETS IT’S HANDS ON SOMETHING,IT WILL RETURN THAT SOMETHING TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS???
By ShortWoman, September 13, 2007 at 8:37 pm #
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Four nations—Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States—each with large indigenous populations, voted against.
In other words, *the* 4 nations with large indigenous populations voted against.
Report thisBy TAO Walker, September 13, 2007 at 5:51 pm #
Four former British colonies trying to hold-on to their ill-gotten gains....what a surprise. They’re all four part of the coalition of the witless attempting the oil-grab in the Cradle of Civilization, too....along with a dwindling contingent from “the mother country.”
It is good to have this right out there for all the world to see, though. Sure, the “Declaration” itself is essentially meaningless....a token gesture too little too late. Still, the wasichus of the world remain united in their determination to defy the very “christian” principles upon which they claim their various pirate-ships-of-state are founded....and, by virtue of their being “honored” entirely in-the-breech here in these latter days, foundering.
HokaHey!
Report thisBy purplewolf, September 13, 2007 at 2:27 pm #
Being native out of Canada,but born in America,I have one comment held by many of my brothers and sisters from the red road."It’s been 500 years,we want our land back.”
Report thisIt comes as no surprise that the United States would vote against this,let alone return all confiscated lands or pay compensation. Back in the 1980’s when Michigan paid a little for some of the land that was stolen,which took far to long,the goverment claimed they didn’t know how to figure the value of the land.I told the leaders who were working with the goverment that the fairest way to determine the value of the land was to find out the value at which the state taxes that property,for every year since it was stolen,add all that thru all the years up,add interest and penality,as does the goverment and that should give the PTB the fair price for the land in question.Some of the elders thought I should be send with the group to work with the goverment on that,but since my blood was Canadian,I would not be recognized by the state of Michigan on this issue. The indigenous peoples ended up recieving 7 million dollars for 11 million acres of land,which breaks down to .636 cents an acre. Pretty cheap.Yet an empty acre of land was selling at around $5,000+ per acre. Guess we got the shaft again.