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Ear to the Ground

Bush Pitches ‘Return on Success’ Plan

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Posted on Sep 13, 2007
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In a preview of Thursday’s speech, President Bush lays out his “return on success” plan for bringing troops home (though the meaning of “success” is unclear), discusses the Iraqi government’s progress (and lack thereof) in meeting its goals, and insists that “the success of a free Iraq is critical” to America’s security.


The Politico:

Whatever political party you belong to, whatever your position on Iraq, we should be able to agree that America has a vital interest in preventing chaos and providing hope in the Middle East. We should be able to agree that we must defeat al-Qaida, counter Iran, help the Afghan government, work for peace in the Holy Land, and strengthen our military so we can prevail in the struggle against terrorists and extremists.

So tonight I want to speak to members of the United States Congress: Let us come together on a policy of strength in the Middle East. I thank you for providing crucial funds and resources for our military. And I ask you to join me in supporting the recommendations General Petraeus has made, and the troop levels he has asked for.

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By mark edward, September 16, 2007 at 4:33 am Link to this comment
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Ronald-Ray-Gun was president when i was in the USAF (due to Carters reinstating the draft reg., as a result of the Russian invasion of Afganistan and the creation of the Taliban by our own CIA to fight against them (and the birth of Osama Bin Laden their leader - not unlike how we birthed Noriega).

Ronald killed our GI Bill effectively, lied to the country & world about how “great” things were in the 80’s to get people to spend thus creating the decadent 80’s not so different from GW’s “america…go shopping”...and as was then we now have a 4trillion plus deficit… and the consequent explosion of CC debt and student loan debt that still imprisons so many young optimistic Americans today. Who i might add are slowly realizing that their overblown over hyped career education status is virtually useless in the states as so many of those promised jobs are continually sent over seas…

I can personally attest to this because for the last 14 years i’ve lived in Switzerland, Germany, Italia, Spain & France, and of course USA (NY,SF,Den)...

In particular Switzerland is booming and crawling with young Americans who come here to use that college education - weakened at home - at a variety of banks, high tech industries, and more recently a very large google base.

Oil…is a nice excuse, an easily believable one due to our obvious over consumption, and now you have Greenspan coming out with his book and declaration…why not continue to use oil as a crutch?

Or one could explore history a bit and try to understand the larger agenda through a wider lens set in motion years ago? Explore Bush family history (back 50, 60 plus years) and its easy to understand, yes maybe oil is involved, but only as a pretext to the larger concept.

Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Saudia Arabia…the eventual map of conquest. We are only at the beginning of the middle east conflicts, it was designed to engulf all these countries. Oil seems obvious when these countries are mentioned because are conditioned to think of these lands only in terms of their oil weath and fundamentalist ideals….not at all unlike parts of our own.

With all due respect to the other opinions here, America has plenty of oil, North America in general has plenty of oil, we don’t need middle eastern oil, never did for anything other than displacement of power.
No different than our replacing the food sources of poor nations with cash crops so we can sell them our food, or not sell it to them when they don’t get on board, control. This globalist concept is no secret.

Bottom line is we don’t need oil at all for anything other than making money, our system is stifled because of it. We have in the US historically long tested and suppressed, confirmed, proven clean, powerful, sustainable tech that renders oil completely obsolete, but the old gaurd won’t let go…and the general population is too busy watching tv and consuming to bother with pushing them out.

Thank goodness for the internet, pray it remains free - although it is being assaulted as never before because the old gaurd “feels” the affect free media is having on an ever growing portion of the population.

It has never been so easy to “click” between US mainstream media and alternative sources of new media to demostrate whats being spun, ommitted, and manipulated. Its ominous, frightening, enraging, to see clearly how information is fed to us.

Oil & Terrorisim are perfect distractions, weapons if you will. I don’t deny that they play a significant role, but i do deny that they are the main players.
They are tools, and unfortunately they are working effectively on the American public in general because not enough people are willing to explore “the rest of the story”, even more to even begin to believe what that story illustrates, and who is behind it.

Shrub is a good description, as are all the colorful words used to describe those in high places these days.

Sheeple has also never been more accurate.

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By farmertx, September 15, 2007 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

Re:#100403 by ender on 9/14 at 1:31 pm
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Actually Shrubs’ dad gave him the money to buy a 1/10% interest in the Texas Rangers. In the minds of Texas Republican’s that proved that Shrub was qualified to be Governor.
Texas is still digging out from under the pile he left behind.
The oil well scams got the seed money from Shrubs’ dad and investments from his dads’ friends kept it going for a while. Everybody except Shrub lost money on the deals.
But, due to his hard work he has repaid all those investor’s he had scammed.
Minor technicality is that he has used Federal tax money to do the pay back, along with secret contracts and reducing tax rates, eliminating some taxes altogether in some cases.
Shrub is dumber than your average stump, except when it comes to scams. Then he can be pretty darn slick.

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By William Ries, September 15, 2007 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment

Does Bush look like Alfred E. Neuman of “Mad” magazine?  Am I the only one who flips the bird at the radio whenever he speaks?  I am a retired military vet and the only Republican I ever voted for was Ronald Ray-Gun.  Maybe Newt and Al Gore will run.  Just thinking, if I vote for Hillary, then I get Bill as well.  That sounds like a good deal.  First time post, sorry. Of course it’s about oil.  And who could forget about the military-industrial complex?  Bush could lead sheep, to slaughter.  Bring home the troops and end the illegal occupation.

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By ender, September 14, 2007 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment

This isn’t difficult folks.  Shrub is a silver spooned sociopath.  Just as when family money had to buy him out of fiascos with his baseball team, and oil development company, he truly believes that failures can’t possibly be his fault, and it is just the way of nature that someone else take the blame.

All he has to do is stretch the war out another year and a few months, and it is someone else’s fault that it all fails.

He is just to bye’damn important of an American to take the fall for the failure of the Iraqis to toe the right thing.  If it has to be that the American Solder can’t do the ‘hard work’, will it certainly can’t be MOMMA’S LITTLE COCAINE COWBOY’S..NOW CAN IT?  JUST WHO THE HELL DO WE THINK WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THE HEAT ON HIM?  AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN.  NO SIR, THAT AIN’T HOW WE DO IT BYEGAWD ODESSA.

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By Mar Del Zur, September 14, 2007 at 8:29 am Link to this comment

So…he’s blaming the troops? If they were doing their jobs they’d be home by now?

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By farmertx, September 14, 2007 at 3:46 am Link to this comment

The one salient fact to keep in mind when Shrub speaks is: If his lips is moving, odds are he’s lying.
The only success that I have seen is Halliburton scamming a record amount from the taxpayer’s and Hunt Oil signing a contract with the Kurds, thus bypassing the Central Government that Shrub installed.
Shrub needs to hurry up and get a clone of the Brown One confirmed so the Hunt deal can be ruled valid if the Iraqis’ try and say it isn’t.

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By Mark Edward, September 13, 2007 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment
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I read these posts and i am baffled… what on earth is wrong in America? How bad does it have to get before we stop acting like saber rattling idiots?

You keep talking about “Libs”, well Libs, Reps, Dem’s and far too many innocent Iraqi’s are dying everyday over there, and we sit here and talk numbers.

The reality is that Iraq is “insignificant” for anything other than the massive military base its being converted into. The oil is insignificant, and to be fooled into believing that GW and associated administration give a shit about the Iraqi people for anything other than cheap labor is a very sad statement.

Their building the largest embassy on earth there, along with numerous “permenant” bases spread out across the region. They kill time and people with all this talk of surging and deadlines.

All they wanna do is get their bases finished no matter how many people have to die. THATS WHY THEY WON’T LEAVE….if they leave now they walk away from a half built “american infrastructure” on Iraqi soil, look it up.
How many private contractors will loose money, thats what you should be looking at…“follow the money”... its not about victory, its about corporate contracts and money!

They don’t need Iraqi oil, we have more than enough here in the states in surplus “and in the ground”, its all a lie, and its very easily researched, its public domain, look it up.

Iraq is being reconstructed as the staging ground for all middle eastern wars to come in the immediate future, and thats not a consipracy theory, go to the white house website and look it up, read the legistration, its all there and they know the general public is too lazy to read the endless pages of information.

Fact: we created, funded, & trained (CIA) Saddam & Osama,..this is all historical record, no conspiracay…its fact and they don’t deny it!

We sold them the weapons, we gave them instructions and intelligence when we needed them to covertly move our various agendas , its all there to read, look up the history of the Iran Iraq war…all the way back to Vietnam, they don’t even hide it anymore, they just count on us being to preoccupied to bother.

People, its right under your noses, literally, know your history, at the very least the last 30years, you’ll have no questions about what the agenda is here if you educate yourselves.

Its not about oil, its about control.
If you have any courage at all stop calling each other Libs, Dems, & Reps and start calling each other Americans, then take a look at our history, our archives past to current, educate yourself, then… ask yourself if you’ve got what it takes to be the kind of American that wrote our constitution, our bill of rights, the declaration of independence.

These people knew what would happen, they saw it coming, and they acted. A far cry from whats going on these days…

Osama Bin Laden? C’mon, he’s a joke, an eternal scapegoat, a figurehead, a ghost, a face thrown at us in a crummy video everytime we need to be frightened into towing the line. He is nothing… and he isn’t responsible for 911, our own CIA determined and stated officially that he had no connection whatsoever after their own official investigation… as did Osama himself, he “never” claimed responsibility. Yet we keep getting battered with Osama, Osama, Osama…its ridiculous…and you believe its him because we’re told it is…

The pattern has never been as clear as it is this day, if you don’t see it its because “you don’t want to”.

And if your afraid it isn’t Osama your afraid of.

You love your country? Proud to be American?
I know i am.

Stop lying to yourself…Stop towing the line…Stop repeating the rhetoric…Dig deeper…history “is” repeating itself, now, today, as we speak… we’re letting it happen, that should scare you more than any Osama.

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By Grousefeather, September 13, 2007 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t agree with one word of this; not one word!

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