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Bush to Announce Long-Term Troop Cut

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Posted on Sep 11, 2007
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President Bush is set to announce plans to bring home roughly 30,000 troops from Iraq, but the withdrawal won’t be completed until next year. When is a “surge” not a surge? When it lasts for years.


BBC:

President George W Bush will this week announce he plans to reduce US troops in Iraq by about 30,000 by next summer, White House officials say.

They say the cuts, with conditions attached, will be announced by the president in a major TV address.

The move would bring the number of US troops in Iraq to “pre-surge” levels.

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By jimijazz, September 13, 2007 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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It’s total propaganda these days trying to sell a war that has gone very very bad. Nobddy should expect anything from Bush in his remaining months in office because they never had a serious plan for Iraq from the start.  It’s been all ad hoc since then.  But what do you expect? This is who Bush really is. Bush makes slackers look like overachievers.

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By don knutsen, September 13, 2007 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

Our “Chimp-of-State” just loves dressing up in military garb. It makes him look so very heroic while he grins and throws more american blood and money into his & cheney’s war. Todays news recounts how one of their more subservient commanders in Iraq, General Bergner ( who seems to take the lead in creating an excuse for another war with Iran ) stated a rocket recently fired from the Sadr militia at an american base “Might” have come from Iran. Don’t we all remember in the lead up to this war of there’s how often they hedged their lies by using “suitable for”, “might be”, etc. We went into a war with that kind of rhetoric being spewed daily by our media turned propoganda machine, and nothing has changed.

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By farmertx, September 12, 2007 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

Re:#100088 by Don Stivers on 9/12 at 6:13 pm
(28 comments total)

You stated that “non (sic) will come to our country” referring to the displaced Iraqis’.
I’ve seen reports that some are coming here and being settled in Hamtramick, MI, long a Polish American enclave on North Side of Detroit.
It is a sign of Shrubs’ lack of leadership ability that these people have been forced to flee their native land.
Now they (some,not nearly all) are here and having to try and compete in the American job market.
But as long as Shrubs’buddies continue to get rich off his ego war and get insider deals to take the Iraqi oil, Shrub will consider it all worthwhile.
I am a tad surprised, considering how Christian and compassionate that the Shrub is that he hasn’t offered up all the extra space on his Crawford ranch for them to recreate their villages and neighborhoods. Then again, maybe he has and is just being modest. Modesty, along with truthfulness, is one of his strong points, ya know.

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By DennisD, September 12, 2007 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment
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The Bu$h Hokey Pokey:

You put more troops in, You pull more troops out;
You put more troops in, And you move them all about. You do the Bu$h Hokey-Pokey, Then you turn it all around. That’s what it’s all about!

15 more months of this crap is what we’re in for from Bu$h Inc. and who knows for how long after that. Congress has failed this country by not impeaching these scumbags. Remember them all on election day.

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By DennisD, September 12, 2007 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment
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The Bu$h Hokey Pokey:

You put more troops in,You pull more troops out;
You put more troops in,And you move them all about. You do the Bu$h Hokey-Pokey,
Then you turn it all around.
That’s what it’s all about!

15 more months of this crap is what we’re in for from Bu$h Inc. and who knows for how long after that. Congress has failed this country by not impeaching these scumbags. Remember them all on election day.

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By DennisD, September 12, 2007 at 7:31 pm Link to this comment
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The Bu$h Hokey Pokey:

You put more troops in,
You pull more troops out;
You put more troops in,
And you move them all about.
You do the Bu$h Hokey-Pokey,
Then you turn it all around.
That’s what it’s all about!

15 more months of this crap is what we’re in for from Bu$h Inc. and who knows for how long after that. Congress has failed this country by not impeaching these scumbags. Worse yet we the people have failed it by not protesting loud enough or long enough en masse to get something done.

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By Leefeller, September 12, 2007 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment

Nice connotation with the Turkey and the Turkey!

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By Enemy of State, September 12, 2007 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment

You heard it here, BushCo would make a necessity into an apparent virtue. Not that it wasn’t O-so predictable. Running out of deployable troops made to look like a drawdown allowed because of “progress”. Of course the politicos think that means they can let the policy run, we are headed in the right direction after all. 
  I think the poelple think otherwise. But I have been fooled before.

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By Don Stivers, September 12, 2007 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

No wonder Bush smiles all of the time.  He has no worries that he will ever be tried as a war criminal. Our congress people are just full of hot air.  They lecture the wrong people.  We see pictures of smiling ex secretaries of war.  “We know where the WMD’s are!” 

And more honorable soldiers will die and innocent Iraqi’s will die or leave the country as refugees.  Non will come to our country. 

I just can’t believe this just keeps going on and on and on.

Support the troops!  Why didn’t our country rev up its industry to build mine proof vehicles?  Has Bush ever been asked that serious question?

“I a war president!”  by George W. Bush

Let’s just say we lost and bring our young men and women home.  No more will die then.

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By PatrickHenry, September 12, 2007 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment

This administration knows if a draft was again implemented there would be a march on Washington the next day and warfare in the streets the next week.  It would be the 70’s all over again.

I pray that when he leaves office, Bush and Cheney will be pursued, investigated and ridiculed for the rest of their lives even more than they are now. 

Lets investigate GHWB back to his Zapata Oil days and his involvement with Dealy Plaza and see what turns up.

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By dick, September 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment
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The power elite want continuous war. Congress and the Admin are members of the power elite. Thus, wars will continue, and the masses, who have no influence,  are more effectively controlled.

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By QuyTran, September 12, 2007 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment

The chimpanzee tries to laugh with tears !

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By QuyTran, September 12, 2007 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment

The champanzee tries to laugh with tears !

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By Louise, September 12, 2007 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment

cyrena [#99887]

Don’t give up! People are listening to you!
They just have to overcome the fear that hangs out there at the water cooler. Nobody with the sense God gave a turnip believes Bush will end his war!

Bush trashed his uniform years ago. Gave up ever having the class or the clout that one earns through legitimate service, opting instead to stay drunk and get rich.

No doubt many losers who made the same decision are now sleeping under bridges, not realizing it doesn’t work unless Daddy is rich and well-connected.

He can say he’s bringing EVERYBODY home next June, and NOBODY will believe him! [People will prey, because it anestithises them]

The man is no more courageous, ambitious and HONEST today than he was way back then, which is why he’s hiding behind Betrayus. Those wondrous remarks delivered by the equally wondrous general were written by White House staff. Which main stream media has pointed out several times over the past few weeks.

Just listened to Ryan Crocker [US Ambassador to Iraq] tell the National Press club HE and Petraeus “developed” a plan to make the surge effective, almost as soon as THEY touched ground in Iraq. How about that folks! Bet you thought the military was running this stupid war! Leads one to wonder, is Crocker the “official” Petraeus minder?

Of course, Petraeus recognizing, I suppose, this might become apparent jumped in and took over the conversation. Re-focusing on the “successful” areas.

“I’m not blaming Iran for the problems in Iraq.” He stated, then went on to explain the Iraqis simply didn’t have the sophistication to pull off these successful attacks, without help from Iran.

That kind of goes hand in glove with the notion that those dumb, backward Iraqis couldn’t possibly govern themselves or rebuild their infrastructure if we left. Amazing how well they managed before we got there, huh? Even with a dictator running the country. Even with the sanctions that we dumped on them for twelve years. Even with the damage inflicted during the Gulf war. Even with the horrendous health problems they had as a result of Depleted Uranium poisoning, Iraq had the highest standard of living, and the best equal for all education system in the Middle East. And that is a fact!

Responding to a question from the audience, he focused on the counter-insurgency manual. New ideas, changing the manual, changing the education, changing the training ... he’s so proud of his successful “big changes, big ideas.”

I mention this only because Petraeus would never have been able to satisfy his vision of his new kind of war-fighting, had we not been thrust by lying and bad political leadership into the Middle East. Which when you think about it might have been the real reason for the brutal destruction of Iraq. Their BIG IDEAS needed a blood bath to bring home their perceived need for this kind of training, this kind of war. I have always believed the chaos was the sought after goal!

Of course we cant leave Iraq! If we did that would present three problems.

The fact that our interference has made it possible for the radicals and extremists to take control.
[Something Saddam never allowed]

The fact that the Iraqis are clever enough to get their water, lights and garbage service up and running within weeks!

The fact that there is no legitimacy to GWOT.

Putting the lie to everything the administration has told us. And putting the level of pointless human sacrifice in bold print!

Meanwhile, the neo-cons and neo-libs playing follow the leader, will continue to make it up as they go along.

I’m not going to vomit, but I am getting a headache.
Time to turn off the blabber box and get back to work!

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By phil james, September 12, 2007 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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Clearly the American public is being punished for some collective wrong we have done, perhaps sometime during the last 200 years of the Republic, and of which we must be only vaguely aware. Not only have we been subject to the true horror and helplessness of 9/11 that evokes tearful open-mouthed wordlessness, but we have had visited upon us the most unbelievably, incomprehensibly mendacious, self-serving, corrupt and incompetent Administration we could possibly have imagined, which has in fact fed upon and nurtured our horror at 9/11 to serve it’s own misbegotten ends and, in the face of clear public distrust and outcry, has trod on and on with nary a second look or consideration. And to add to that we have, as our representatives after an election that served as a mandate for serious change, simply an odd collection of the most obsequious, courtly, and ineffectual political hacks known to modern government.  All this because of something we must have done wrong…or maybe just the cumulative effects of the slow drip of apathy draining our passion and humanity as time draws us farther and farther from the wellspring of our Democracy.

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By Dr. Richard Blackmoor, September 12, 2007 at 11:48 am Link to this comment
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Bush Has to reduce troops by 30 thousand unless there is a draft ,currents soldiers have their tours extended or if they start recruiting in prison.

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By RB-Chicago, September 12, 2007 at 11:41 am Link to this comment
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WHEN will ANYBODY stand up to these fools and call BS ???

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By hippy pam, September 12, 2007 at 9:39 am Link to this comment

O.K…SO WE HELPED “THE IRAQUIS”[literally] KNOCK THE GUY “OFF HIS PEDESTAL”...[Saddam Hussein was the man who wouldn’t play the game that bush*t wanted to play in the manner that bush*t wanted it played]....NOW LET’S GET OUR PEOPLE OUT OF THERE AND LET/MAKE THE IRAQUIS RUN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.THEY ARE AS INTELLIGENT AS ANY ONE ELSE[aren’t they??]SO THEY WILL PROBABLY FIGURE IT OUT ALL ON THEIR OWN…..

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By ocjim, September 12, 2007 at 6:45 am Link to this comment

Why is it that the major media cannot come out and declare Bush a fraud? The instances of outright lying are piling up with references to lies buried in opinion section and in blogs.

No one even blinks when he declares the war in Iraq a fight against terrorism. No one corrected him last month at the VFW thing, when he said we are killing 1,500 al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq every month since January (Widipedia estimates no more than 2000 in Iraq).

Is it because presidents aren’t supposed to tell whoppers? That presidents are supposed to be honorable?

And he says he was sent by God? Only as a plague.

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By Leefeller, September 12, 2007 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

Bush is going to announce that ever since he got his head caught in the hanger door when he was pilot in the National Guard, he has never been able to tell the truth.  Of course that would be starting a new trend, telling the truth, not getting his head stuck in the hanger door.

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By farmertx, September 11, 2007 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment

First, we have to remember that he has lied before and will again, if it suits his purposes.
Next, the so called drawdown would likely happen regardless, as current troop levels for replacements aren’t enough. So they will come home or get re-extended for the 3rd, or is it the 4th, time.
The oil companies are already making deals with the regional tribal areas, ignoring the central Government, which is too busy infighting to enact any legislation that will benefit the country as a whole. And you thought the US Legislature was the only one that couldn’t do anything for its citizens.
These drilling operations will need security forces to protect the rigs and employee’s not to mention the pipelines. And on the razor thin profit margin (well, that’s what they claim) that these companies must operate precludes their hiring Blackwater or Dynacorp…unless Shrub decides that more subsidies are needed.
That points to a continued presence of US troops in the area. All in the name of oil…er, democracy and freedom.

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By cyrena, September 11, 2007 at 7:29 pm Link to this comment

On my desktop RSS feed, nearly every other headline is some version of this.

“Officials: Bush to announce drawdown”. (MSNBC.com – Most Viewed)

Then there’s this one…

“Officials Cite Long-term Need for U.S. in Iraq” (NYT – international)

Already the corporate water-cooler conversation among the grunts is that “yeah”, he’s gonna end the war. I mean, that’s what it means, right? They saw the headline, and Fox said it too. He’s gonna do a troop drawdown. Yeah.

That’s what’s on the cafeteria grapevine, and so everybody’s celebrating. Never mind about that other headline, that claims the need for a long term US presence in Iraq. Never mind that sort of nullifies any talk of troop drawdown, or that the same officials were probably quoted.

And, never mind that this alleged “drawdown” isn’t planned for another YEAR, and that it’s not a drawdown, but just another lie that will make people think there is actually such a concept in this administration.

And yes, I can tell you that there are many average Americans who will believe this. And they will go to church (or Bible study) and pray thanks. They will thank God for giving George the wisdom to drawdown some troops a year from now.

And, (for them at least) all will be well.


Meantime, I have to vomit again.

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