#96670 by VietnamVet on 8/24 at 5:34 am

Yep VietnamVet,

I DID see that Austrila had admitted to their coveting of the OIL, and I remember reading it several months ago, but didn’t know any of the “details”.

So, thanks for the link.

RE: 96463 by cyrena on 8/22 at 7:18 pm

A little tidbit here on that OIL. Did you hear that the Australian government is now owning up to the fact that OIL WAS a factor in their supporting Mr. Bush’s war? You can see it here:

http://www.energybulletin.net/31700.html

And there is more if you google Australia and approval for the Iraqi war.

I wouldn’t hold my breath until THIS administration finally owns up to the same!

#96560 by john on 8/23 at 11:40 am

Simply right, John, but the countries in the region have also had to contend with an 80-year history of Western interference. That’s part of the reason for the mess - and fast becoming the whole reason.

Neither Hillary or any of the Democrats are going to be able to fix it either easily or quickly. Not having US or other troops stomping around in other peoples’ countries for dishonest reasons would be the first step......

As it is, the next president is going to have a battle dealing with the mess back home in the USA. A housing and economic crisis and lack of investment in replacing and upgrading infrastructure will require a lot of effort to address.

Those essentials have all been pushed aside while Bush and buddies have gone on their crusades of distracting people from the real issues. The reason? To have control over you through fear! Never vote for a Republican again until they can prove that they are different and better.

The difference between Bush and Hillery is that Bush is a low life gutter snipe dork and Hillery is a low life gutter snipe dorkett.

Does Hillary really think that there is any Iraqi that can bring order to the chaos that the Shrub has created?
Hell, Allah himself could come back and try and talk sense to those folks and there would still be infighting going on.
The Shrub inserted the US into a situation where we had no business being involved, sat back and watched it get worse by the day and said, as only a genial idiot could, Things will be better some day.
The fact that God hasn’t rained thunder bolts upon the Shrub proves (to Shrubs’ fevered mind, anyhow) that God is on his side. And it will all work out in the end.
Too bad so many American’s forgot there is a damn good reason for separation of Church and State.

I hadn’t been aware of Senator She-Fop’s credentials for ruling chaos driven Middle Eastern states.
All she has ever run is her mouth, which should remain shut concerning topics she knows too little about to merit telling the public what her inexperienced opinion wants to see happen in a sovereign foreign land’s government.

#96463 by cyrena on 8/22 at 7:18 pm: “...Humm..... She calls it, “protecting American interests” in the Middle East. .......It always brings us back to that same stupid question...how did OUR oil, get under IRAQ’S soil? .....“American interests” indeed…”

Yes, well, there is another problem. There is a thing called truth and, as we have found out on Truthdig recently, there is what people want to hear. As a political candidate, Hillary is faced with putting a story to the public which is not palatable in the least. “Protecting American interests” then is shorthand for “If the congress and the senate won’t fix it, how the hell do you expect me to fix it before I become president?”.

I notice that neither Reuters or whoever posted this story (they’re not game to put their name to a Hillary topic now, I presume) on Truthdig mentioned what Bush actually said that “we” will do to replace Maliki. That is, the US military will “replace” an elected prime minister in another country if he doesn’t do what his people (the USA!) want.

What is worse, though, is that this is just a sideshow to distract people from the real situation developing in Pakistan. The US will quite happily step out of Iraq - temporarily - when a conflict over martial law or an attempt to overthrow the government occurs in Pakistan. Note that then the US military will then have surrounded IRAN with bases in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Strategically, Pakistan is also close to the Straits of Hormuz and with S.Arabia as an ally, the USA will have control of both sides of the entrance to the Persian Gulf. Nothing in Iraq is important any longer. Only Hillary is saying that she cares about troops there while Bush has effectively already “cut off funding” with a 60% shortfall in supplying equipment like armoured personnell carriers, etc etc.

When you keep trying to stick yer old 8 track into an ipod it ain’t the 8 track or the ipods’s fault for things not working!

In other words, just because 59,054,087 Americans were dumb enough to vote for Bush, AND the Congress is dumber still to keep believing every story he tells them, doesn’t mean the Iraqi’s are as dumb as Richard Perle and Joe Lieberman think they are.

Nationalism is not terrorism.

Humm,

Hil is starting to sound like just another “enforcer” from the Cabal. They’ve all been parading through Iraq for the past 8 months, trying to cram that Hydrocarbon Law down the throats of the Iraqis, and now they wanna act like it’s Maliki who’s preventing it from happening. They DID shove it down HIS throat, a long time ago. But that doesn’t mean he’s been able to force it on the people who would be most harmed by it, which is the rest of the Iraq population.

So, the Iraqi parliament said they needed more time to examine this latest addition to an Oil Law that they already didn’t lke. Why would they want to pass this Hydrocarbon Law written up by the US contractors, on behalf of Big Oil, that will effectively hand over 70-80% of all of Iraqs oil to the multinationals, instead of the Iraqis. How does anyone expect them to pass such a piece of suicide legislation?

They won’t, and no change in leadership, (unless the Iraqis work it out themselves, with NO interference from the Cabal, and we know that’s not gonna happen)is gonna MAKE them pass that bill. And, that’s really the only “benchmark” that Hillary or the others really care about. She calls it, “protecting American interests” in the Middle East.

It always brings us back to that same stupid question...how did OUR oil, get under IRAQ’S soil?

“American interests” indeed…