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 Bush Pulls Back on Criticism of Iraqi PMPosted on Aug 22, 2007
President Bush attempted to exercise spin control to smooth over his relationship with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Wednesday, emphasizing the Iraqi people’s claim on their own government after his comments a day before seemed to signal his displeasure with Maliki’s leadership.
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By don knutsen, August 23, 2007 at 10:51 am Link to this comment
Bu$h is out making speeches comparing our involvement in Vietnam with Iraq. He points out our lack of fortitude in staying the course in Vietnam. I guess killing millions and de-foliating much of the country wasn’t quite enough for him. He neglects to follow that with the fact that his dad made sure he was sheltered from that war by being in the Texas National Guard. That his vice president also apparently had a distinct lack of fortitude with his 5 - 6 deferments. He continues existing in his own personal “fact-free zone” twisting history to his liking by claiming that our leaving Vietnam caused the “Killing Fields” for instance. The Killing fields were for the most part caused by the US, but it wasnt’t our leaving. It was our illegal bombing of that country turning a largely subsistance based rural population into crazed maniacs under Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge. It was the same Vietnam after we left that was responcible for isolating Pol Pots murderous campaign while the west largely ignored the plight of the cambodian people. We killed millions of Vietnamese during our involvement there. Scores more then were killed after we left. The only parallel that fits is that we were occupying a country where most of the population wanted us out.
Report thisBy lawlessone, August 23, 2007 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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If Bush doesn’t happen to like what the Iraq government is doing, why doesn’t he just throw those particular elected officials out like he usually does and replace them with different puppets? After all, that’s why we peremptorily invaded that sovereign country, wasn’t it? To bring them democracy, freedom and the right to do exactly what we tell them to do?
Report thisBy farmertx, August 23, 2007 at 6:25 am Link to this comment
Re:#96432 by Debra Istvanik-Strotman on 8/22 at 3:13 pm
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Good point.
Report thisOur inductees’ receive 8 weeks of basic recruit training, and for those going into infantry, there is another 8-10 weeks of Avanced Infantry training and then they are on that big plane to Iraq.
Once there they are given some familiarization training of 1 week and then they are in combat.
The Iraqis’ on the other hand, supposedly after 1 year or more of training are unable to function effectively…and they are fighting for their country.
Kinda sounds like the Arvans of ‘Nam.
By PACRAT, August 23, 2007 at 1:42 am Link to this comment
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Who writes Bush’s speeches? Does he even review them before he rattles them off? The stupidity of his speech writer who is clearly ignorant of the history of the Vietnam War or deliberately lying about it is no excuse - the president should at least inform himself before he reverses history in front of many of the men who made it! What an insult to their sacrifice and heroism!
Is everyone in the White House intellectually challenged? Or is it just the president?
Report thisBy Debra Istvanik-Strotman, August 22, 2007 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment
King George does not understand the Vietnam war because he was sitting on a bar stool sucking up the booze and if the rumors are true putting cocaine up his nose. It would answer alot of questions about his actions now.
How dare he say “Lack of resolve” was the reason for pulling out of Vietnam. Typical of a man who was to cowardly to serve his country. This shrub has absolutely no empathy, as he said to the mother of a young man killed in Iraq. “Well now that it’s been a few years since your son died, is it easier for you.” The lady from Vermont was outraged and said” “No it is not easier and it never will be.” I am amazed she didn’t punch his face in. I would have broken his nose.
God help us all and don’t blame Nancy Pelosi, as you should all be protesting and gathering to protest and every opportunity, signing petitions against Bush and his regime until he is finally thrown out of the White House.
Report thisBy Louise, August 22, 2007 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment
The only thing about this article that surprises me is that the Veterans of Foreign Wars still invite motor-mouth to speak!
Like, we aren’t fighting a war in Iraq, we are trapped in Iraq!
Bush said, “The question now before us comes down to this: `Will today’s generation of Americans resist the deceptive allure of retreat and do in the Middle East what veterans in this room did in Asia?’”
Oh that must have gone over like a lead balloon ...
Those Vets remember Vietnam.
Bush has trouble remembering where he was and why he wasn’t there, at the time!
But those Vets remember where he was and KNOW why he wasn’t there.
How incredibly stupid ...
Gees! Maybe he really cant think without Rove!
Report thisBy Debra Istvanik-Strotman, August 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment
You can train an american to go off to war in a foreign country in a few months, so the blatant lies from the shrub, telling us ‘the american people’ that it takes time to train Iraqi’s to defend themselves and their country is total fiction. If they haven’t learned yet they never will.
How many years does it take to train these people? Need to come up with better lies Mr. Shrub
Report thisBy davide, August 22, 2007 at 12:45 pm Link to this comment
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“Even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then.”
Bush (unwittingly?) found an acorn in his comparison of Iraq with Vietnam in Wednesday’s speech, but (predictably enough) drew conclusions at the polar opposite of the historic and moral truth.
The acorn: In both cases the U.S. invaded countries which did not (and could not) attack or threaten it in order to further its drive for hegemony, and in both cases the results were disasterous for the country’s population and others in the region.
The false conclusion: Blaming post-withdrawal bloodshed in Vietnam and Cambodia on U.S. ‘lack of resolve’. Anyone who knows the history of the Vietnam war—-in fact, anyone who was alive at the time and not stupified by cocaine and booze—-knows that it was the carnage wrought by the U.S. war effort which gave rise to post-war reprisals in Vietnam and the ascendance of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Bush, and many others, have forgotten the lesson of Nuremberg: The crime of agressive war carries with it the moral and legal responsibility for all that follows.
Report thisBy Mudwollow, August 22, 2007 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
Who the hell cares what this vandalizing liar says anyway? Impeaching the bastard would be kind not only to the American people but also to the rest of the world. Thank you so much Nancy “impeachment off the table” Pelosi for helping George Bush murder lots more children. You’re such a great mom.
Report thisBy THOMAS BILLIS, August 22, 2007 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment
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After 5 years of abysmal failure does it really matter if we support Maliki or not.`We need to get out of there and let the Iraqi’s do what they are going to do to make a country.The only job we have is to guarantee their borders from invasion.As long as we sit there as occupiers the natural flow of what ever government is going to form there is going to be interrupted.The only thing that unites anybody in Iraq is their hatred of us.Anbar province is working out because we let the Sunnis on their own go after Al Qaida.If our goal is to get Al Qaida in Iraq getting out is the only thing that makes sense.The Shia are not going let the Sunni based Al Qaida get a toe hold in Iraq.The kurds cetainly will not and if the Sunnis are so inclined to rid themselves of Al Qaida where will Al Qaida survive.The dominating factor in our presence in Iraq is oil and to say differently is to miss the story.
Report thisBy farmertx, August 22, 2007 at 11:23 am Link to this comment
The last time we had a President whose remarks had to be explained and re-phrased was Ronnie Reagan.
Report thisBut he was suffering the early onset of senility.
For years, the Shrub has claimed that no time lines could be placed on his master plan for Iraq.
Now that he sees some of the handwriting on the wall, he wants the Iraqis’ to place time lines on when they will pick up the pieces that Shrub has made of their country.
Colin Powell cited the Pottery Barn Rule: You break it, you buy it.
Now Shrub has added his version: I broke it, why haven’t you fixed it yet?
And really, that comes natural to the Shrub. His whole life has been spent with daddy and daddys’ friends picking up the pieces and cleaning up his messes.