Since when has Iran been on Weeds mind(as he has no brain)since day one. This is the first time I have heard that lie out of him. Of course, he really means Iraq. You know since they are spelled practically the same and are so close to each other, and he no doubt cheated on his geography tests in school if he ever took them in the first place, it is easy to see how he can get those two confused with each other. Wonder if he does this with the twins too.Weed wanted to go after Saddam Insane and he announced in interviews in the news, when we still had news that was reported to the public before all the censorship,around July 2000.It was payback as they tried to kill my daddy lie that was the favorite line used back then.One,that Weed the orginal flip-flopper who accused Kerry of flip-flopping during the last farce called the run for the presidency. Well it looks as if the pot is calling the kettle black to coin a phrase.
How many names and amazing stories has Weed come up with for the reason we are in Iraq now, I have lost count,let alone all the reasons and those stupid ass names he comes up with for all those operations taking place on a daily basis. The only operations that all Americans need to see accomplished is a total lobotomy done immediately on the Weed and Dicko at the same time. That is the only way to save what little bit of rights we have left.

Re:#96052 by Louise on 8/20 at 5:46 pm
(103 comments total)

That too many American’s are asleep when it comes to the governing of this country is, indeed, one root of the problem.
Too often I’ve heard reasonably intelligent people claim that my vote won’t change anything. (Especially when you don’t even try)
Much of the blame for folks feeling that way is the legalized bribing of politician’s, otherwise known as campaign contributions.
When too many Congress Critter’s regard special interest groups as their constituents, the real constituents are left without representation.
Would that we were all able to enclose $25,000 with our pleas for Impeachment, it would be a done deal by now. Sadly, I am about $24,900 short. Dammit.

Love the caption under that photo:

“Iran has been Mr. Bush’s worry since day one in the White House”

Well shucky darn! Here we thought it was Iraq!
At least that’s what all the insiders who’ve escaped have told us ...

But I guess the most puzzling thing about this whole article is the notion that Mr. Bush worries about anything.

Boy, you could of fooled me!

Now Peter Rodman, is one of those “visionaries” who put his signature to the founding statement of principles of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

In short, he is one of the “crazy’s” who emerged from the Nixon era and went on to reach full bloom under the Reagan/Bush administration.

“... a strong advocate of containment [you’re right, so retro] who was until recently a senior Pentagon official.”

Actually the former assistant secretary of defense for international security in the Donald Rumsfeld-led Pentagon ... official.

Like most in Rumsfelds greed driven restructuring of all things military [how can we make a buck?] a civilian with absolutely no military experience. A politician who views politics as a weapon. And a typical neo-conservative with a passionate desire to re-make the world in his image.

Well that explains so much. This article, no doubt, is in response to the continued demands from neo-cons and VP’s who just cant stand the fact that we haven’t invaded Iran yet! Gees, it would have been so much easier a few years back, before Bush put Iran on notice they were targeted for elimination. [that axis of evil thing]

“Containment” is just a more genteel way of saying, kill, kill, kill!

In an Op-Ed article in the New York Times, June 7, 2007, “Rodman asserts that American defeat in Iraq would embolden extremists in the Muslim world and possibly destabilize many moderate, friendly governments”

In classic neo-conservative fashion, Rodman chooses to ignore the reality that, even though corporate America and government shills weren’t making tons of money from the Middle East pre-Bush ... relatively speaking, things were pretty stable there.

What a difference the crazy’s have made. [Well except maybe for Israels slave-state Palastien]

He goes on to say, “millions of Iraqis see the United States as their only hope and US conduct in Iraq is a crucial test of American credibility”

Oh come on now. Has Rodman checked the altimeter lately? American credibility took a nose-dive back in early 2003. Hasn’t pulled up since! And those millions of Iraqis? Would that be more or less than the 80% that wants us to get the heck out of there?

Sometimes I forget. [getting old I guess] When exactly did the American people stop paying attention?

Guess it doesn’t much matter, because all of the above couldn’t care less about a simple thing called truth. Lying is such a handy tool to use when you lead folks around by the ring in their nose.

Especially if your siphoning of their dollars while you do it.

Bill O Reilly reported on his show…

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

*cough*

How does one counter such ignorance as the belief in O’Reilly?!?!?

*sigh*

I noticed you did not respond to Iran threat to “wipe Israel off the map.” Or do you think Iran was lying.

This is absurd.

It was the “President of Iran” of whom was reported to have said that. Certainly, being able to believe that what you read or hear in the “news” is an acurate portrayal of fact is something we all want, but one must look beyond—in these times—the headlines of the news-wires.

“Iran” did not threaten to invade, bomb or otherwise destroy Isreal. Their “President” was pretty much mis-quoted by the West. You will of course just say, ‘yes it did’ and not INVESTIGATE on your own. Alas, too many people are like you.

Hey, can I ask, what if one of Iran’s politicians sang this, “Bomb, bomb, bomb Isreal” during a televised debate, would you use that as proof that Iran is evil?

What you say is absurd, but of course, and I say this knowing full well that I will considered as being absurd, but YOU WERE MEANT TO THINK THAT about Iran. You have been duped by a controlled Western press.

Remember when Russia invaded Afghanistan? Remember the movies, the novels, the rhetoric, the op-eds? Remember how America backed and supported the insurgency? Remember how Russia was evil? Remember how America armed the insurgents?

How many of you people who tell us of how evil Iran is thought the idea of American mercinaries in Afghanistan at that time were great heros to be envied?

Was is RIGHT and CORRECT that Americans supported the insurgency fighting Russia during that time?

”[Iran’s] Islamist regime is a huge problem for the safety and security of tens of millions of people in other countries…”

First I would ask, Just how?, but, given the FACT that America, via military action and economic sactions, HAS been detrimental to the safety and security of tens of millions of people in other countries, that argument is a JOKE.

”... as well as the many millions who suffer from the brutal doemstic repression of the mullahs.”

And just how many BRUTAL regimes has America supported the last 60 years? Again, your argument, is a JOKE.

America OVERTHREW a democratic regime in Iran once. DO YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF IRAN????

#95885 by Sarah

Iran is not a problem to be solved by the US.  It is a country, full of people with stong tradition and culture.  It is a place, to be understood, not a problem to be solved.

Iran is a complex and large nation, but its Islamist regime is a huge problem for the safety and security of tens of millions of people in other countries, as well as the many millions who suffer from the brutal doemstic repression of the mullahs.

RE:#95885 by Sarah on 8/19 at 8:13 am
(Unregistered commenter)

Darn good point. One that many of us have neglected.
Now,if we can just find someone in the State Dept. that is capable of such a thing.
Oops. Looks like we will have to wait until we get a real President who will appoint people based on ability rather than how they vote.

driving bear to wipe Israel off the map were not the words actualy used.Check out Antiwar.com May26th.“Wiped off the map Rumor of the Century” by Arash Norouzi.

RE:#95866 by hazmaq on 8/18 at 11:02 pm
(7 comments total)

I agree that no White man (read Westerner) will ever solve the problem in the MidEast.
Although the Brits, with their own ideas of how the world should be are the ones who decided to partition Palestine.
Kinda like the Kings and Popes of bygone centuries dividing the unexplored world between themselves.
The Saudis’ appear as friends to the West. But the majority of the hijacker’s were Saudi citizens. While that in itself doesn’t indict the Saudi Government, the continued support of bin Laden by the Saudis’, albeit behind the scenes, is a question that this administration will not address. Because the Saudis’ have lots of oil. And the Shrub, and more especially his dad, have very close ties to the House of Saud. Remember the photo of the Shrub walking hand in hand with the Saudi Crown Prince while he was still in power? Shrub doesn’t hold hands with any other ally, but he holds hands with the Saudi.
Iran isn’t something to be ignored. Actually, there was a better case to be made for invading Iran rather than Iraq. But Shrub had his mind set on beating Saddam and that was all he would hear.
Underlings that wanted to keep their jobs were coerced into dummying up ‘reports’ that showed the Iraqis’ were the bad guys. And at that, it took the Shrub three tries to come up with a reason that American’s would come close to believing.

When U.S. imperialists realize that they are not going to get to decide unilaterally who gets to have nuclear weapons and who doesn’t, American foreign policy can become more realistic.

Harmaq

Guess what Saudis tried to destroy Israel in 67 and 73 ,and they failed. where do you think the Arabs received the money for the weapons Israel destroyed.
Iran knows that Hamas and Hezbollah cannot take Israel out ,and that Israel has one of the best military in the world. I think in the current rankings Israel is 4th in the world behind the us, Russia and china.
Iran hatred for Israel will cause them to behave irrationally.
I noticed you did not respond to Iran threat to “wipe Israel off the map.”
Or do you think Iran was lying.

Where the hell are ‘driving bear’ and some of the rest of you from?

You’re so full of Fox’s fake facts and Bush’s b.s. you can’t see the truth sitting right in front of your faces?

Were any Iraqi’s caught outside their borders trying to destroy anybody??
How about Iranians?? How many Iranians flew those planes into the towers?

Did you know Saudis hate Israelis more than anybody else?
How many Saudis have we attacked or imprisoned or banned from entering America?

Iran wants to destroy Israel do they?  So do the Saudis, but we just sold them weapons.  Maybe it’s not Israel we’re really worried about after all.  Did you ever think of that??

Iran, and Hamas and Hizb’allah all want to destroy Israel do they?

Last year Lebanon and Israel were at war for 34 days.  Israel destroyed Lebanon from top to bottom, killing over a thousand.

The ‘weaponry’ of Iran and Hamas and Hizb’allah all put together supposedly backing Lebanon barely scratched Israels surface and killed just over one hundred people. 
Newscaster made jokes of how inaccurate and slow the Katusha ‘rockets on a stick’ were.

Remember the warnings of pre-war Iraq of wanting to ‘avoiding street fighting;.  Because it’ll end up just like Iraq and Lebanon.  These are nationalist fights on their turf.
They don’t need ‘weapons’. 

These people are fighting for land they’ve lived on for centuries. No white man will ever take it from them. In fact Hizb’allah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine are Israelis’ step children.  Created out of an unwillingness by Israel to take responsibility for their errors of aggression and the subsequent occupation on another’s lands. 
All for what?  Subservience and enslavement?

We now make the same errors in Iraq and create our own brood of future enemies by our relentless war on anyone and everyone not willing to have our agendas shoved down their throats.

#95852 by driving bear on 8/18 at 7:51 pm
(3 comments total)

You make a good point about the Israelis’.
The main fact is that the US has no role in Iran at this time. When Iran goes beyond “our troops will give yours a bloody nose” then it will be time to hit the Nuke sites. Those are the only places in Iran that need to be attacked.
Our military is busy saying pubicly that we can’t sustain an extended operation such as this, unless the draft is brought back.
Although the Brown One would authorize a blanket exemption for the GOP leaderships’ kids, that would be kinda hard to spin.
If we can get the Congress critters to grow a spine and get rid of the Shootist, then they can bring the Shrub up on meaningful charges and get rid of him as well.
Realistically, that is what it will take to stop this madness that Shrub calls leadership.

There will be war with Iran it’s only a question of when. I think no one believes Iran nuclear program is just for peaceful purposes.
Iran will be attacked if the USA does not do it Israel will. Several months ago Bill O Reilly reported on his show Israel asked and received permission of the USA to use Iraqi airspace for a raid on Iran. A attack on Iran by Israel would be justified because remember Iran president called for the destruction of Israel therefor an attack on Iran by Israel would be justified by self defense

I agree that his folks should have sought treatment for him years ago.
But the Ivy League Elite don’t acknowledge such failings in their spawn, figuring the only ones to suffer from them will be the ‘common’ folk, and who among them really cares about that?

Obliterate is the farthest this sick demented administration can think.  Corporate America is behind this too, just as they are in every war, police action, or environmental catastrophe on the planet.  Look at all the unrest EVERYWHERE.  What was it that precluded this: GLOBALIZATION.  It might sound simplistic, but at the root of every filthy occurrence on the planet you’ll find an American Multinational Corporation.  Research WWII….

IF diplomacy fails? Shrub thinks diplomacy has something to do with the diploma’s that some earned in school.
From what little I know of Iran, which is a lot more than the Shrub knows, is that most of the people enjoy Western freedoms.
The political and some religious leaders in Iran are dead set against us.
Remember the Embassy Siege? Remember the photo’s of one of the young leader’s that looked remarkably like the current President of Iran? But, according to Government experts,it wasn’t the same guy.
I might have accepted that under a real President. But everything coming out of DC is suspect now. Surprised that they (DC) didn’t jump on that as a reason to invade right then.
Maybe Halliburton didn’t have enough people to send there at the time.

Hasn’t the Bush bunch learned anything from the quarmire they stirred up already in Iraq, that they can’t wait to continue this maddness in yet another location. Since Bush cannot seem to get along with his neighbors in the world community it makes me wonder, did he fight and set out to destroy any of the neighbors who have the ill luck to live near his Crawford ranch that didn’t bow down to the wrath of this spoiled,inmature,unreasonable,child he so often portrays himself as. Perhaps if he were order, by his doctor or the court system to immediately undergo intense mental evaluation to find out the underlaying casues as to why this person has to go out and destroy anyone else in the world who doesn’t suck up or bow down to him. When it is discovered why he exhibits this behaviour, make it mandatory he follow thru with the recommended course of treatment by the experts,(not those hired by his pack of cronies but real legitimate doctors not connected to this administration)to correct this mental defeat and negative behaviour he has inflicted on all the peoples of the world.It is such a shame that his parents didn’t find out what his problems were when he was a child, his treatment could have started decades earlier,after all they have the best medical coverage that the taxpayers money could buy then and now.