• #95374 by Novista on 8/16 at 6:29 am
(15 comments total)
I’m not sure Petrasaur will have any input to the WH spinreport. He might have said, “I’ll tell it like it is” and now has nightmares of fragging. Or friendly fire ...
I’ not sure I understand the ‘drawdown’ option. Could someone explain how fewer U.S. troops will be safer or the situation more stable?
I think the only answer is: No Troops Left Behind.
And, you would be right!! That’s the only answer, and it’s been the only answer for 4 ½ years. The only other correct answer was never to have been there to begin with.
And, there is no such thing as a “drawdown” option. It is the mere presence of the US military that has destroyed that nation. It is the presence of US contractors and all of the others that are there for the purposes of stealing whatever they can get. It is the fact that the US has turned Baghdad into it’s own capitol of the Middle East. All of these things have and will continue to drive the chaos that is Iraq. The only chance, (if there is one) has always been for us to LEAVE.

If this is any indication of what Patreus is planning for next month, (and that’s what I would suspect, since that’s been the deal since the beginning) it’s just more BS to make it sound like we’re withdrawing, when in fact they have no such intentions. And, several others have noted that as well.

It’s just the same ole shit.

Over 1 million Iraqis have died since we invaded this country.  I don’t know how many Saddam Hussein killed, but surely we have exceeded that number.

Nearly all have seen their lives destroyed and they live in fear daily without reliable basic services--electricity, water, etc. 

We won’t allow them to emigrate here for some reason--probably because we’ve promised 20 million illegal aliens citizenship--so those who can get out are at the mercy of bordering countries--who don’t want them either.  Or maybe because they would tell the truth about what’s happening over there.

No wonder we never hear any “man in the street” interviews from locals praising our presence, assuring us that life after Saddam is glorious under our occupation.  And remember, as Bush pointed out, they’ll be able to participate in free elections!

I’m not sure Petrasaur will have any input to the WH spinreport. He might have said, “I’ll tell it like it is” and now has nightmares of fragging. Or friendly fire ...

I’ not sure I understand the ‘drawdown’ option. Could someone explain how fewer U.S. troops will be safer or the situation more stable?

I think the only answer is: No Troops Left Behind.

It certainly seems odd that things are so much better in Iraq.  Especially on the heels of the news of one of the worst attacks there so far.  The article quotes:

“Gen. David Petraeus said the “horrific and indiscriminate attacks” that killed at least 250 Yazidis,...”

Then it goes on:
“When all the sudden the local people are on the side of the new Iraq instead of on the side of the insurgents or even al-Qaida, that’s a very significant change.”

Strangely odd, that “all of a sudden” the Sunni’s are switching sides, after being in a war-torn dictatorship since 1979. A decade-long war with Iran, after which Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, and then they themselves were invaded in 2003.  After all that they are SUDDENLY switching sides.

What’s wrong with this picture.

farmertx is really on to things. Of course King David will talk about troop reductions, that reduces the political pressure to leave (since it gives the false impression we are starting to). And at the same time, troop reductions are inevitable, for all the reasons farmertx says. Even a draft wouldn’t do the trick, it takes a long time to train & equip new troops (unless we want to send them as unequiped civilians). So pretend to be withdrawing we will, while dragging out the occupation for yat another Friedman Unit…

It will be interesting to see if he credits the WH speechwriter’s for his ‘speech/report’.
No doubt his thought that “our footprint will have to be much smaller by next year” is motivated by the realization that there aren’t enough troops to keep a presence in Iraq without a draft.
And a draft might snag some kids of the GOP elite; that wouldn’t do at all.
The idea that Shrub thought he could invade Iraq, anoint a new President of Iraq and have his people writethe Iraqi Constitution and that it would work, shows how little the Shrub comprehends reality.
But, when Shrub was dreaming all this up, God sent no lightning bolts into the WH, so obviously, God approved.
I’d still love to know how many times the Shrub was ever in a Church for regular Sunday Services before Der Karl cast him as Gods’ Chosen.
Remember when Billy Graham was asked about helping bring the Shrub to religion (as Shrub had claimed) Rev. Graham said that he had never really talked religion with the Shrub.

Hey General,

“The gains YOU have fought so hard to acheive” are almost 4,000 U.S. troops died in vain and hundreds thousands of Iraqis have been killed...and the whole country is bathing with bloods and tears !

Congratulation !