#95528 by DennisD on 8/16 at 2:56 pm: “...Out of curiosity I went to the web site and listened to the Hillarious propaganda piece. No easy task, her voice sends a shiver down my spine. If you or anyone else can find one moment when Hillary specifically says exactly what she would do to solve the problems she points out and how she would fund them I would be very much interested in hearing it because it sure as hell isn’t in that piece. Just the same empty rhetoric you accuse Obama of....”

I presume that you will still be voting for the Republicans, then, DennisD???

Obama bombed on that one. Were not these elected congress crumbs supposed to be looking out for the best interest of the people they were elected to be serving? By sitting back and often times going along with everything evil that has been done all in the false name of security, he along with all the other subspecies of the senate are equally guilty for the problems we have today.
I would hope that things change for the better. We the (little) people are stuck with the bills and bull that this inept administration has done to us and there needs to be honesty and openness in what the people who supposedly manage our country and our lives are really doing. We should not tolerate the darkness, secrets,lies, slander, schemes, stealing of our rights,job exports, underhandedness, disloyality done to the American people as well as the country,disrespect that this administration has shown to the world, arrogance,lack of empathy,the truth of 9-11,FEMA relocation centers,lack of medical care for our veterans, rudeness not only to the very people who you are supposed to work for but other countries leaders and people as well,traitorous behavior just to start the list that has come out of the whitehouse the last 6 1/2 years.It is time to say “NO MORE”.If this does not change for the better America can no longer hold her head up high,it will only be looking down in shame as to her once glorious past.

Thank you, Outraged, for saving me the trouble of delineating all that Bush has wrought upon us. It is a most impressive list. But I must add that one thing is clear - we must act swiftly and intelligently to bring this horrific administration to an end. This, I believe, is Obama’s message. Thus far, those we entrusted to do this task, have done nothing, or worse, become complicit in its anti-democratic activities. The major parties have failed us badly. Alternatives must be found, risks must be taken. We are not obligated to wait until the election in the Fall of 2008 since by now it has become obvious that it will not produce significant change. We should throw the bums out now, no matter their party affiliation.

Quote AP: CEDAR FALLS, Iowa—”.......Democratic candidate Barack Obama .....called on Americans to change the nature of politics and institute more openness in government.......... Obama, a senator from Illinois, said average Americans must be brought back to the table when dealing with every issue, from health care to education to trade....”

Wow, that’s just exactly what Hillary said in her new TV ad - people have been made “invisible” http://www.youtube.com/user/hillaryclintondotcom

Of course, he wouldn’t blame it on Bush because Obama is now busily helping the Neocons (and/or AIPAC) to find a way to invade Pakistan! How helpful.......

However, it is true that “We can’t just change political parties and continue to do the same kind of things we’ve been doing .....We can’t just go about business as usual and think it’s going to turn out differently....” because that is exactly the formula which has led up to bridge infrastructure collapses, failure in rebuilding hurricane and tornado-destroyed towns and cities and ruining air travel in the USA.

Invading or attacking one more country, whether it be Iran or Pakistan or whatever, will lead to the final disaster when it is finally found that the USA can no longer afford to keep its military overseas and must bring them home to unemployment as happened with Russia (the former USSR) after the end of the Cold War. That’s where the US economy is being taken by the sub-prime mortgage disaster/coming $US collapse at present.

At least Hillary seems to be working on the answers while Obama and his rhetoric seem to be still focussed on everything but the solution. Trade, jobs, investment all come with addressing the infrastructure issues and the climate-change/global warming and renewable energy agenda. Those are where the changes have to happen - and forget about wars and invasions.

I’m afraid I can’t be quite so generous as Obama.  What percent I’d like to know ISN’T his fault.  Maybe we should just go with Cheney’s “One-Percent Doctrine”.  OK GW, 1% isn’t your fault.

GW put the players in, when he saw what they were doing he left them in the game.

GW lied along with others, who are equally culpable, about WMD’s and invaded Iraq. He had knowledge of it and the authority to stop it.

GW relaxed corporate mandates, gave billions in corporate welfare schemes, and for the few laws left protecting America he all but obliterated enforcement efforts.

GW allowed the raping of the middle class in taxes while he assisted the extremely wealthy with tax breaks.

GW endorsed no child left behind, in an effort to funnel money to wealthy schools whom didn’t need the help anyway.

GW has played with America’s gas prices without valid cause.

GW endorsed the hire of numerous unqualified people in high level government positions and this resulted in a tow-the-line mentality.

GW vowed to stop the cycle of poverty by instituting welform reform which harmed countless people, many of whom became homeless.  He also created a larger population of poverty stricken Americans.

GW allowed Gitmo and still has not shut it down.

GW helped to spread the threat of AIDS by endorsing abstinence programs and decreasing funding for research and treatment.

The list goes on and on and on......

Now obviously he did this with help, but he ordered it, allowed it and endorsed it.  We don’t say well Al Capone’s not all to blame for the executions he ordered.......do we?  All this from a man who had more executions carried out in Texas than anyone else.  Don’t forget he pardons his friends though, because their sentences were “too stiff”.

I’m going to assume Obama’s gotten “word” to put in a “good” word about ol’ GW.  Maybe a corporate sponser or a lobbist.  Who knows maybe there was a “request” from the WH.

He is right. We have a mostly disinterested population easily led astray by a narrowly owned media, and the professional spin-meisters. We gotta get enough of the people searching for enough of the truth (like TruthDig readers are trying to do), to change this. Only trust media which is independent of the corporate advertising base.

Yes Shrub is to blame for the secrecy and partisanship that his administration stands for.
But Sen. Obama is also correct that a lot of other folks share the blame.
Those Republican’s who were willing to listen only to sound bites to make their decision on who to vote for are to blame.
Three here in East Texas have admitted that in our talks. (not all Republican’s are evil minded. Just wrong. :>) )
I won’t go into to those who followed the Shrubs’ lead in voting to go to war. Reasonably, we don’t think of a President willing to lie about a cause to attack another Nation. But now we know that can happen.
But after the ‘06 elections, when everybody save the blind supporter’s admitted the truth, the Democrat’s wasted their opportunity to start impeachment proccedings that should have began three years ago.
Then they wanted to play politics with non-binding resolutions.
Sen. Obama is right that politics as usual is not the answer. His ideas about opening Government up, as much as it can be, consistant with real National security concerns (as opposed to the political security concerns that worries the Shrub and his agents) is good.
I disagree on the lobbyist’s though.
Lobbyist’s should be banned from any financial dealings of any nature with any politician or appointed Government official period. They should be limited to providing postion papers that reflect their clients’ views; no trips, no gifts, no employment of family, no hosting anything.
A ban on contributions from any not eligible to vote for a candidate would be another step in the right direction.
Why should the Governor of Texas go to NY for a fundraiser? To get bribed. Plain pure and simple.
Folks in Dallas should not get involved in a contest in East Texas and vice versa.
We have one millionaire doctor in San Antonio that is spreading money all over Texas trying to get his version of Charter Schools put into law.
If his idea is so good, why is he having to pay folks to support it?
There is much wrong with the current state of politics in this country. And until we band together and demand changes, it will continue; only the names and dates will change.
Sen. Obama, if elected, could not achieve any of this on his own hook. No one person can.
I keep hoping that the excesss and abuses that the Shrub has visited upon this country will wake folks up to the fact that they have to pay attention before they cast a ballot. Afterwards, it is too damn late.
One blogger suggested that we show up at the polls and refuse to vote for anyone. Great idea, if everyone would do so.
But the neo-cons would just grin and their candidate would win with 10,000 votes or less. Hopefully much less.

Mr. Obama,

Don’t forget to clean your mouth before open it. You should know how to turn your tongue several times before speaking up.