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Hillary Clinton vs. the White HousePosted on Aug 14, 2007A new Clinton campaign ad has the White House crying foul, and Clinton crying “Tough!” The commercial features the candidate saying that struggling families and troops are “invisible” to the president. Deputy press secretary Dana Perino said the claim is “outrageous” and that “it is unconscionable that a member of Congress would say such a thing,” which prompted this retort from Clinton: “Not only have I said it and am saying it, I will keep saying it because I happen to believe it.”
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By cyrena, August 16, 2007 at 6:54 am #
#95357 by Douglas Chalmers on 8/16 at 5:05 am
• Oh, Laura Bush? I wouldn’t feel safe with THAT walking behind me, cyrena! Have you seen her eyes?!?! Just as well he has arms like a gorilla to fend her off with, duh.
Doug,
Yeah, I’ve taken note of her from time to time. But, the really scary one, (including the eyes) is Lynne Cheney. Now SHE even scares ME.
But Laura? No…she’s been Stepfordized for so long that she hasn’t been “with us” in decades. And now, with what is obviously a diet of prozac/jack-backed cocktails, she’s pretty much just floating on down the road. Hell, she might even be on an IV by now. I know I would be. (Then again, probably not, since I’d never have allowed myself to get hooked up with that bunch to begin with.)
Still, imagine if you were trapped in that hell of a life, and didn’t have the guts to get out? Or worse, were too stupid to know that you were even trapped?
Pretty pathetic.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, August 16, 2007 at 5:05 am #
#95348 by cyrena on 8/16 at 4:17 am: “...Just flipped over from the glass ceiling thread .......they haven’t liked her from the beginning, because she’s a strong PERSON, and “women” are NOT supposed to be strong, intelligent, or speak out of turn. They are supposed to be like Laura Bush, who generally walks a few steps behind the shrub....” ------>
Oh, Laura Bush? I wouldn’t feel safe with THAT walking behind me, cyrena! Have you seen her eyes?!?! Just as well he has arms like a gorilla to fend her off with, duh.
#Quote cyrena: “...and generally very insecure in their own alleged “masculinity”. Most importantly, they DON’T CHANGE. So, the changing of circumstances, or the changing of anything in the political dynamics of our society, doesn’t matter to them. They don’t like Hillary. They can never tell you WHY.” ------->
I don’t understand them either, ha ha. Evolutionary failures....... (inseminoids!) maybe just the ‘drones’ of the species. You can usually tell at a glance just by the way they dress, uhh.
#Quote cyrena: “...Outraged called it much better in respect to Dana Perino. She’s simply a LIAR. I wanted to jump right through the computer when I read the bullshit about the senior drug discount. In reality, that very costly program has ended up costing seniors MORE, and in some cases, REDUCING the availability of certain medications. The premiums on this nifty little plan have more than doubled, and they cover far less of the price of the prescriptions....” -------->
Its all being taken away by stealth. See http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php – stop “Codex Alimentarius” http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp
#95170 by Lucien BONNET on 8/15 at 12:05 pm: “Lucien Bonnet’s thesis is intended to show that black is not only an integral part of the light process but the true synthesis of it....???”
Nice try, LB - but, as much as we love Haiti, we’re NOT here to buy condos. And you’re addressing your stuff to the wrong “president Clinton” if you want to be relevant in the here and now.
Report thisBy cyrena, August 16, 2007 at 4:17 am #
Just flipped over from the glass ceiling thread, after hearing from Douglas, that Hillary was taking a beating from a handful of male bloggers. Shame on them, but it’s not surprising. Because, over the years, the same people, have made the same comments, (the names or faces may change slightly, but the mentality is the same) and rarely, if ever, can they provide any clear rationale, or apply the same “standard” to any male opponent. In other words, they haven’t liked her from the beginning, because she’s a strong PERSON, and “women” are NOT supposed to be strong, intelligent, or speak out of turn. They are supposed to be like Laura Bush, who generally walks a few steps behind the shrub.
So, Hillary speaks up, (as she always has) and that is a guarantee for types like this, to jump. They always do. They’re bigots, misogynists, and generally very insecure in their own alleged “masculinity”. Most importantly, they DON’T CHANGE. So, the changing of circumstances, or the changing of anything in the political dynamics of our society, doesn’t matter to them. They don’t like Hillary. They can never tell you WHY.
So, we get stuff like this, from Will:
• #95059 by W i l l on 8/15 at 6:29 am
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Someone should remind the she-fop that she isn’t running against a lame duck President.
And then remind her campaign staff, Senator Clinton is part of that government she claims doesn’t care about the people.
Now seriously, why does the “she-fop”? (whatever the hell THAT is) need to be “reminded” that she isn’t running against a -lame duck president-? Is this a stupid comment or what? Of COURSE she’s not running against a lame duck president. George IS a lame duck president, because he always has been (at least a puppet president) but she’s not “running against him”. So, what’s up with that? She’s running as a democrat in a presidential campaign/election, and at this point, she’s competing with both democrats and republicans. Eventually, (if the process is allowed to continue as it traditionally has) she will run against a Republican. We don’t yet know who. But nobody in the real world believes that she’s running against lame duck shrub, who we can’t get rid of soon enough anyway.
So, this is the kind of stuff I mean. These are the types that just have a real hair up their asses about Hillary. If Britney Spears or any of those types were running, they’d vote for them in a red neck second, (which is still way longer than a New York minute, but they’d manage to mark that X somewhere close to the box – especially if her photo was there next to her name).
Meantime, while Hillary displays strength and a willingness to call a spade a spade, (and she pretty much always has, I should mention, even back when she was the First Lady) we have the likes of Dana Perino, and that other dimwit Frances Townsend. (or close enough). Between these two, I might actually expect to hear some legitimate complaints about “she-flops” or such, even though Outraged called it much better in respect to Dana Perino. She’s simply a LIAR. I wanted to jump right through the computer when I read the bullshit about the senior drug discount. In reality, that very costly program has ended up costing seniors MORE, and in some cases, REDUCING the availability of certain medications. The premiums on this nifty little plan have more than doubled, and they cover far less of the price of the prescriptions.
And of course she’s correct about the shrub’s administration keeping our troops and all the rest of the misery here at home, under wraps and unacknowledged. How obvious is that, to anyone who can connect the shortest distance between two points? We’ve heard nothing but LIES from these people for 7 years. Why do so many choose to stay in denial on that?
I can only guess that they just cannot exist outside their little fabricated bubbles…truth speaks, (from the mouth of a woman no less) and it freaks them out.
Report thisBy W i l l, August 15, 2007 at 3:41 pm #
<----Libertarian
Report thisIf I was neocon, it’d not have been constructive criticism.
Irrespective, Senator Clinton is a dirty sanke in the grass.
By Lucien BONNET, August 15, 2007 at 12:05 pm #
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RE:
Hillary Clinton vs. the White House
Posted on Aug 14, 2007
A new Clinton campaign ad has the White House crying foul, and Clinton crying “Tough!”
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Thank you for welcoming me.
Lucien BONNET
SEE: “Bill A Ri And There Was Light!”
in http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
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THE SPACE AGE, OPTICS, AND RACISM
Racism, more particularly anti-Black racism, shows itself in many ways. But the general public is only aware of the visible tip of the iceberg: race riots, various kinds of segregation and obvious racist remarks. The other part of the iceberg, while less visible, is fundamentally more important and never ceases to affect human life. It constitutes, in short, a heavy handicap in inter-human relations and even blocks the road leading to scientific progress.
One scientist who has found this to be true is Professor Carl Sagan, the famous astrophysicist from NASA. Through the careful study of cutting-edge research in astrophysics, among other areas, he was able to detect a set of anti-Black prejudices which, in his opinion, hinder progress and represent brakes on the pursuit of new discoveries in the Space Age.
Professor Sagan’s astute observation provoked a positive and yet critical reaction on the part of Mr. Lucien Bonnet, a member of the Black community in Canada and a specialist in optics, that “exclusive preserve of the scientific world, that beloved field whose seemingly complicated and dangerous approaches are actually transparently obvious”.
The Western world, accepting Newton’s theory, has declared that white is the synthesis of all the colors. Actually, according to Mr. Bonnet, the reverse is true: white is the “visible” analysis or breaking-down of light or colors, whereas black is the “invisible” synthesis or compounding of colors.
In other words, according to the author’s thesis, darkness or blackness and thus, by extension, “Black Holes”, are a source of energy and light.
This raw material of light energy culminates, at its highest degree of radiation, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of “white light”, to use the common term.
Consequently, “absolute blackness”, the absorption of all colors, is a divisible compound of light. Without any doubt, Newton’s theory, in excluding black, provides only a partial interpretation of the concept of light. Lucien Bonnet’s thesis is intended to show that black is not only an integral part of the light process but the true synthesis of it. In this view, the concept of light is thus seen to be a “divisible” whole including a range of intensities (or colors), where black is the “invisible” (or absorbed) form of light energy.
It was in order to introduce this new scientific vision of optics that Mr. Bonnet addressed the above-mentioned, particularly relevant, letter to Professor Sagan.
This letter, published in booklet form, aroused considerable interest in Canadian and Haitian circles.
In Canada, two prestigious publications — Le Devoir and Le Québec Industriel — mentioned it. While the 17th General Assembly of the International Astronomical Union was taking place in Montreal in August 1979, Quebec’s Telemedia Network, including Montreal television station Télémétropole, interviewed the author, Lucien Bonnet.
In Haiti, the weekly magazine Le Patriote republished in its entirety the documentsent to Dr. Sagan.
Aware that the ideas contained in that documentmight be of interest to the Christian world, the author also sent it to the highest authorities of the Catholic Church, as well as to the Supreme Pontiff, His Holiness Pope John Paul II.
A full understanding of the elements making up this subject will doubtless help the reader to consider color problems, like those of optics and racism, more serenely and objectively from now on.
Lucien BONNET
Article published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir on June 25, 1980.
Report thisBy gogogeo, August 15, 2007 at 8:45 am #
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WILL and The (bad)Dr. Know are typical of Neocon apologists, not accepting responsiblity. Repeat it long enough and the “bumper-sticker” crowd will follow. I don’t feel the need to qualify my sex (male), to feel great about Hill. A powerful, intelligent, driven, woman the Country needs.
Report thisBy W i l l, August 15, 2007 at 6:29 am #
Someone should remind the she-fop that she isn’t running against a lame duck President.
Report thisAnd then remind her campaign staff, Senator Clinton is part of that government she claims doesn’t care about the people.
By Marjorie L. Swanson, August 15, 2007 at 3:46 am #
At least when the Dimwits in the White House attack her Hillary strikes back. Seems sad that one of the few Democrats with b*lls is a woman. It is a good commercial and the White House dimwits should have ignored it.
Report thisBy Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 15, 2007 at 3:31 am #
It is my humble opinion that it is obviouss that troops and struggling families are invisible to congess as well, which makes Hillary a hypocrite. In fact, it’s invisibility and anonymity that makes our so-called democracy work so well.
Report thisBy Outraged, August 15, 2007 at 12:03 am #
Re: Article quote: “White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino initially declined to comment on the ad, but then lambasted the spot and the senator.”
Poor, poor ignorant Dana Perino. She’s lying again. Dana, have you questioned even one senior citizen to see how that “prescription drug plan” is working out for them. You ignoramus. Still spewing the lies, but Dana, like I said, everybody, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!
So everytime you get up there and get “rattled” consider it nothing. Wait till you see what “they” have in store for you. Dana, you’re like the “new” girlfriend of the wife beater who thinks’ “but he wouldn’t treat ME like that, of course he does it to her!” I suggest a little “heart to heart” with Tony Snow, he knows what the score is. Little girl, wake up and smell the coffee.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, August 14, 2007 at 10:57 pm #
#94951 by Non Credo on 8/14 at 7:33 pm: “...Let me tell you, that is one powerful ad. Her humanity really shines through. When I saw it, I thought, my God, maybe she hasn’t lost her soul after all....”
I think you are right after all, Non Credo. This is the 2007 version of “the new deal” and its no longer useful discussing why Bush-Cheney lied, etc etc, ad infinitum any more. This is a time of going forward to actually redressing the problems we will all be left with when the present incumbent finally and thankfully retires......
Quote Yahoo: Hillary - “Apparently I’ve struck a nerve. The White House just attacked me a few minutes ago,” Clinton said. “Not only have I said it and am saying it, I will keep saying it because I happen to believe it.” .......Calling herself an optimistic and modern progressive who would help the nation overcome economic disparities, Clinton said the U.S. can “grow” its economy amid global competition “and do it in a way that benefits all Americans.” .......
Clinton said the Bush administration “is working for Americans with incomes at the very top.” ....."Americans work harder than anyone else in the world, yet we’re not getting rewarded,” she said. “We’re seeing a growing gap between the haves and have-nots that threatens the backbone of our country, the middle class that built our country....”
See the “Invisible” video at http://www.youtube.com/user/hillaryclintondotcom
Report thisBy GB, August 14, 2007 at 9:57 pm #
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This sounds like political saber rattling to get progressive attention.
Report thisWhen are we going to hear from Clinton that Bush LIED this country into a phony war on terror in Iraq where thousands of our service men and women died, billions of dollars have mysteriously gone missing, thousands of weapons have gone missing and he needs to be IMPEACHED before this constitution is completely ripped apart.
I’m only hearing this from Kucinich.
When you speak the truth it is so much louder and powerful. 77% of Americans support our troops and want them out of that nightmare now and back in the US to help with internal security and disaster relief.
By Evergreen, August 14, 2007 at 9:29 pm #
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Ads and words are smoke and mirrors in the world of politics. In the end it is only their actions that count and must be weighed. From whom does one take money? Murdoch? Big Pharma? She is not advocating universal health care...nor is she decrying our illegal presence in Iraq for OIL. Based upon her actions/votes she cannot be categorized as progressive....although I will grant that she did not vote to rescind our 4th ammendment earlier this month like some did.
Report thisBy Leefeller, August 14, 2007 at 8:48 pm #
QuyTran
How about impeachment on the table, that works for me!
Report thisBy QuyTran, August 14, 2007 at 8:26 pm #
Not tough enough ! We need more !
Report thisBy Enemy of State, August 14, 2007 at 7:59 pm #
At some point this campaign is going to have to turn into party versus party. Normally you expect that to start right after the nominating conventions, but this is also part of the campaign for the nomination. Personally I can’t see anything wrong with telling like it is.
Report thisBy Leefeller, August 14, 2007 at 7:54 pm #
joanarc,
You mentioned referring to Hillery running against the Republicans.
“They are already rubbing their palms in glee about the very idea”.
Thats not glee, it is static electricity from the hair on their palms. Sorry, I could not help myself.
Report thisAll the Republicans running for office could attend a KKK meeting and fit right in without the sheets.
By joanarc, August 14, 2007 at 7:33 pm #
I have admired Hillary for a long time. I think she is smart and tough and compassionate, and being a woman myself, I would like to see a woman president. But I do not think she should be our candidate for 08. The Republicans would make her presidency hellish for her and America. They would nullify any good she might try to do. They are already rubbing their palms in glee about the very idea.
Report thisBy jbart, August 14, 2007 at 7:03 pm #
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Although I’m not convinced, nor truly “comfortable” with Hillary as our next President, all I can say is “YOU GO GIRL” !!!
Report thisBy Leefeller, August 14, 2007 at 6:00 pm #
This is one of the few times I have heard Hillery say something that I agree with, now lets work on the rest of the things.
Report thisBy waxman, August 14, 2007 at 5:56 pm #
ANYONE REMEMBER LAURA BUSH KILLING HER EX BOYFRIEND IN A CAR WRECK...NO CHARGES FILED, ???WHY I WONDER ????
Report thisBy waxman, August 14, 2007 at 5:49 pm #
JUST AS ANN RICHARDS SAID, POOR GEORGE, HE WAS BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN HIS MOUTH, OR MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE...HOW CAN HE OR HIS CRONIES COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYONE ????? GOOD FOR HER, KEEP IT UP....THE NEXT DRINK GEORGIE TAKES MAY NOT BE NEAR BEER.......
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