#93968 by Enemy of State on 8/11 at 8:59 am

Enemy of the State,

Thanks so much for the rundown. I’m in California myself. And, having lived a number of places, and visited more, I can honestly appreciate my native state more now, than I did before.

And, the same goes for Canada. My grandpa hails from there, though it was a very long time ago. Still, I’ve been there on a number of occassions, and I think I would be just fine, though I find it to be a bit more costly. Then again, that may not even be relevant anymore, in this upside down existence.

Still, I’m getting the documents in order, and if I head that way, I’ll send you an invite.

How’s your French?

cyrena:
What is idea is quite variable depending upon ones tastes.
I’ve always thought the colder and snowier the better, but economics has forced to to California for now. I’m also older, and my metabolism isn’t what it was when I was younger.

So heres some thoughts:

Seasonal variations increase dramatically going from the equator to the poles, if you want nearly constant temperatures
a low lattitude is your ticket. If it is a mountainous area, then you choose your temperature zone by altitude. If you like seasonal variation, then mid lattitudes are just fine. Canada will warm by a few degrees, for someone moving for the US, it would still seem colder. There will likely be more problems with wildfire, and floods, and heat waves then currently, but overall not too bad. I’d make the decision to move there in a heartbeat (please send invite).

The key to enjoying a Northern winter is your attitude. Get some good outdoor clothing from an outdoor sports shop. Consider the conditions as a kind of challenge to be overcome. With this sort of attitude, you can enjoy the coldest day (except for haiving to put up with the complaints of those around you).

#93930 by Douglas Chalmers on 8/11 at 6:06 am

“Eight hurricanes are likely to form in the Atlantic this year, with four expected to reach intense strength"...."The forecast also said there is a 68 percent chance of an intense hurricane slamming ashore in the United States this year"…
“ In all, 15 named storms are expected to form in the Atlantic Basin...”
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And, this is a DOWNWARD forecast? This really doesn’t bode well at all. Even if it IS a downward forecast.

I guess this answers my question....No Safe Place.

Miami (AFP) Aug 03: “Eight hurricanes are likely to form in the Atlantic this year, with four expected to reach intense strength, experts said Friday in a downward revision of earlier forecasts. The forecast also said there is a 68 percent chance of an intense hurricane slamming ashore in the United States this year. In all, 15 named storms are expected to form in the Atlantic Basin....” http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Experts_Revise_Hurri cane_Forecast_Downward_To_Eight_Storms_999.html

Thanks to all of you for these points. I know about regular old fashioned -weather- but very little about the science behind global warming. And, I didn’t read the paper, so your comments are helpful.

Aside from the natural phenomena that provide those variables, what is an expert assessment of what might be a bearable global location to try to exist in? Is that just too impossible to guess?

For instance, for us here in North America, Canada has always been a bit on the chilly and damp side, compared to other parts of the Continent where we are further South, where it can be unbearably HOT and damp, making it steamy. Or, hot and dry, which is almost as bad. And, there still are spots on the Continent that have a fairly ideal climate, the majority of the time.

So, what’s the prediction for Canada? If I follow this, and we’re just getting warmer everywhere, then Canada might be looking at some warmer weather than they generally have, which would make it quite ideal. Of course the same could be said of some of the European nations, as well as the other continents.

Canada is just a whole lot more like home, if they will allow me to emigrate.

weather: good point, few seem to care about night time temperatures. Myself, I use cool night-time air to cool the house as much as possible during the summer. The night-time low has more impact on my airconditioning bill than the daytime high.

What the paper says is that there are two components to climate, a secular (long-term and slow) change due to greenhouse gases, and irregular short-term changes due to natural variations. This part has been known for a long time, but the paper claims to be able to seperate out (and even predict) the short trem natural component. If this holds up we will have better forcasts of what is going to happen in the next five to ten years, as well as understanding human induced changes better. The paper said nothing about tipping points. I was distressed to see ABCnews use “tipping point in 09” as their headline. But it does predict that we will shortly be feeling stronger effects from global warming than we have yet.

Also, we’ve gotten used to an El Nino- La Nina weather pattern cycle. That might not even be in existence for much longer.....

Please pay attention to night time temperatures, for it is this consequence that is most telling.