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A New Spin on Human Ancestry?

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Posted on Aug 8, 2007
Homo habilis
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Homo arigato:  This rather fanciful rendering portrays the relatively petite Homo habilis in its natural habitat.

Scientists studying two hominid fossils from Kenya have cause to wonder whether Homo erectus, considered the direct predecessor to the species of humans currently enjoying evolutionary predominance, Homo sapiens, actually evolved from the smaller Homo habilis or whether the two coexisted for about half a million years.


BBC:

If Homo erectus had evolved from habilis and stayed within the same location then both must have been in direct competition for the same resources.

Eventually, one would have out-competed the other.

“The fact that they stayed separate as individual species for a long time suggests that they had their own distinct ecological niches, thus avoiding direct competition,” Professor [Meave] Leakey explained.

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By Luis John Kamaku, October 2, 2009 at 8:33 am Link to this comment
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I want to know about the creation ancestry and evolution

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By GardenStateSkeptic, August 9, 2007 at 9:55 am Link to this comment

This research is hardly a waste of money. It’s intriguing to see where we come from and on how long a timeline. Plus the more we learn about evolution the less of a case there will be for teaching the mock science of intelligent design in our schools.

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By Lou, August 9, 2007 at 9:49 am Link to this comment
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Macroevolution is a weak and foolish religious FAITH ... and now it is even more so! While the macro-evolutionists (people afraid to be accountable to God) continue to “revise” and “change” their theories, my Holy Bible stands firm and unchanging as the TRUTH! As more and more of the fossil record (and other scientific discoveries and LAWS) come to light Â… we are all without excuse.

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools … “ (Romans 1:20-22 KJV)

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By PaulMagillSmith, August 9, 2007 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

RE: #93395 by archeon of thrace on 8/09 at 6:24 am
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“DennisD you are an idiot.

Research is good.  It is good we taxpayers fund it, at least this kind.  It is better than missle defense, and illegal foreign wars.”

Got that right, archeon, if we aren’t working toward adding every piece of information to our understanding of the human condition (past & present) we are regressing. Like the song says, “Accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative”.

RE: #93286 by DennisD on 8/08 at 8:48 pm
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“IÂ’m anxiously waiting for the scientific conclusion as to which species could piss away the most taxpayer funded “research” dollars down a bottomless well, first. IÂ’ll bet on the homo sapien every time.”

The answer is too easy, Dennis, Neanderthals. Contrary to popular belief they never went extinct. They just all moved to DC. Don’t you think it’s time we cleared ALL of them out with their old-fashion thinking?


RE: #93372 by cyrena on 8/09 at 4:52 am
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#93349 by Douglas Chalmers on 8/09 at 3:23 am


“Seems like I remember coming across them in my childhood, though it was long enough ago that I could have them mixed up with something else.”

Hi cyrena, always a pleasure to see you posting.

No, you didn’t mix them up. At that age we all saw them. They were called…classmates. LOL

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By archeon of thrace, August 9, 2007 at 6:24 am Link to this comment

DennisD you are an idiot.
Why are you here wasting your time then? get out there and deal with your so called “real time” problems.

Research is good.  It is good we taxpayers fund it, at least this kind.  It is better than missle defense, and illegal foreign wars.

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 9, 2007 at 5:42 am Link to this comment

#93372 by cyrena on 8/09 at 4:52 am: “...Thanks for this very interesting information. I never even knew of these people, though it’s odd that there has been a series of characters in childrens books, as well as small sculpture pieces that have been designated as “Hobbits”. And, it brings “little people” to mind….”

“Hobbit” was originally from “The Lord of the Rings” but there is no clear origin even from the author. It is possible that it was a creation from the word “hogget” which is a young sheep about one year old and too old to still be called a lamb. It could also be a human familiarisation of the sound of a frog???


Quote: “...‘On a blank leaf I scrawled: ‘In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.’ I did not and do not know why.’ .....The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No 163, to W.H. Auden, dated 1955…....  This is Tolkien’s own account of his invention of the word ‘hobbit’, while marking School Certificate papers: he gives no date, but from the clues he gives, this most likely happened one summer in the late 1920’s. This, then, is one of the most significant doodles in the history of literature: without it, there would have been no Hobbit, and without The Hobbit no Lord of the Rings, and without The Lord of the Rings, surely no Silmarillion. If not for those ten scrawled words, the world might never have heard of J.R.R. Tolkien….” http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/h/hobbits.html

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By cyrena, August 9, 2007 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

#93349 by Douglas Chalmers on 8/09 at 3:23 am
Doug,
Thanks for this very interesting information. I never even knew of these people, though it’s odd that there has been a series of characters in childrens books, as well as small sculpture pieces that have been designated as “Hobbits”. And, it brings “little people” to mind.

Seems like I remember coming across them in my childhood, though it was long enough ago that I could have them mixed up with something else.

Anyway, thanks.

And yes, we humans do seem to have a way of seriously jacking things up for other living things, as well as each other.

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By nobody, August 9, 2007 at 4:22 am Link to this comment
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Creationism is nuts. But, it’s almost more believable than the present “Theory of Evolution”.  While theories do represent serious research and are based on the knowledge of the time, it would seem that the conclusions are ill-conceived and geared more to being the first one to win the race; the race to answer the question…where do we come from?
I wonder; every couple of months we read about a new species discovered, sometimes many new species discovered in some remote part of the world.  Is it possible they have not previously existed?  I will withhold judgment and be saddened I will not know the answer to “the” question.  However, it does not stop my wonder of all of this life.

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 9, 2007 at 3:23 am Link to this comment

#93344 by cyrena on 8/09 at 2:39 am: “...Does that mean that the greed of the few will eventually wipe out the many…?”

They/we already did, apparently, cyrena. Search “homo floresiensis” also known as the Hobbits from Flores in the Indonesian archipelago near Timor discovered only a few years ago.

They existed as an alternative to homo sapiens (that’s us) until quite recently and were believed to have become extinct from the pressures of living with f#ckin’ stupid modern humans! What’s new, eh?

Quote: “...FLORES MAN - It sounds too incredible to be true, but this is not a hoax. A species of tiny human has been discovered, which lived on the remote Indonesian island of Flores just 18,000 years ago. Researchers have unearthed remains from individuals who were just one metre tall, with grapefruit-sized skulls…... These astonishing little people, nicknamed ‘hobbits’, made tools, hunted tiny elephants and lived at the same time as modern humans who were colonizing the area…... the story of a find that changes the world of palaeoanthropology, and challenges our perception of what it means to be human. http://www.nature.com/news/specials/flores/index.html

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By cyrena, August 9, 2007 at 2:39 am Link to this comment

I’m hearing a little frustration here. Like folks aren’t too interested in all of this, at this point in history.

Can’t say I blame ya.

One thing interesting though, is the point about competing for resources, which is how one species eventually wiped out the other.

Does anybody get the similarity there? We’re in it folks. Competing for basic survival resources like food and water and in the case of the US, ENERGY.

Does that mean that the greed of the few will eventually wipe out the many?

It’s looking that way to me. Has been for a while now.

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By GW=MCHammered, August 8, 2007 at 11:07 pm Link to this comment
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How our three-brain quandary began: reptilian stem (instincts), mammalian (emotions - like your dog) and cerebral cortex all rolled into one coconut. Yeah, no wonder it’s a struggle.

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 8, 2007 at 10:03 pm Link to this comment

Cro-Magnon man, Homo erectus, Homo habilis, duh.  What about Washington man…...???

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By DennisD, August 8, 2007 at 8:48 pm Link to this comment
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Yeah, there’s no real time problems to deal with, lets concern ourselves with what might have happened half a million f**king years ago.
I’m anxiously waiting for the scientific conclusion as to which species could piss away the most taxpayer funded “research” dollars down a bottomless well, first. I’ll bet on the homo sapien every time.

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By weather, August 8, 2007 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment

It’s always good to know where you’re coming from.

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By ib, August 8, 2007 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
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What will the creationist do

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