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Saudis Cautiously ‘Keen’ on Mideast Peace Talks

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Posted on Aug 1, 2007
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Condoleezza Rice sits down with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, on Wednesday.

Hard to say whether the $20-billion arms package Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice brought to the negotiating table with Saudi Arabia has anything to do with Saudi leaders cottoning to the idea of meeting with Israel, Palestinians and select other Mideast states later this year.


BBC:

The conference is intended to revive the peace process and would include Israel, the Palestinians and Arab states viewed as moderate by the U.S.

“We welcome this initiative,” said Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal.

The kingdom has no diplomatic relations with Israel, saying previously it would only establish them at the culmination of an Arab-Israeli peace settlement.

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By Thomas - Thailand, August 2, 2007 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
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Wake up! Who do you think will benefit from the multi billion $ arms agreement over the next decade? Your elected administration and their ‘fat cat’ CEO’s of the armament industry. Another thought, who do you think will be the beneficiaries of the high tech aircraft and munitions that will abound the Middle East? Not the USA!

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By tuantu, August 1, 2007 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment

If America, England or any other of the other countries in the world who support (love) Israel unconditionally really wanted justice peace and harmony in the Middle East and an end to Muslim terrorism as they pretend they want - all they have to do is to stop their dreadful favoritism (adoration) of Israel. But Israel’s wife, America, it seems is so madly in love and so willingly provides the support without which her husband, Israel could not maintain his subjugation of the Palestinians on his own and continue his easily provable crimes against humanity in the Middle East.  Question: how can a nation - such as America -  be so in love with Israel and yet not publicly acknowledge that she is married? Is it because the Americans are so hopelessly unconscious of the fact or is it because they are so madly in love and embarrassed by the fact?  This marriage is causing severe hardship not only to the loving wife America but also on the rest of the hapless world - including that dopey “best man” England now lead by Gordon Brown. Meanwhile the brainless, inarticulate, or cowardly and extraordinarily rich Saudis sit around and wait for someone to start making sense out of all this affectation being generated by our inconsequential, con artists world leaders and their dull-witted mediocre Secretary of States. I notice that Israel’s public relations representative in the United States - America’s mass media - is preparing the American people for the presidency of either the bodybuilder and former Mr. America - California’s governor Arnold Schwarzenegger - or the rich Jewish billionaire Michael Bloomberg.  Either one it seems is “good” for Israel. I will vote for Schwarzenegger because I remember what England’s Lord Cromer once said about governing Egypt and this also applies to Israel’s governing America: “We do not govern Egypt, we govern the governors of Egypt.”
The doleful Saudis it seems to me,  are in for a long wait… unless the Israel-America marriage ends when America finally runs out of money and can no longer support (love) her husband in the fashion he’s grown accustomed to and he asks for a divorce to marry whom - China?
Question: Why did the American government threaten to withhold favored nation status to China because of its violation of human rights but supported Israel with billions of dollars in military and economic aid when Israel’s human rights violations in the conquest and subjugation of the Palestinians were/are much worse then China’s violations of its own citizens? Is it because America is Israel’s loving wife or is it because Israel “owns” America as Israel’s former Prime Minister Sharon candidly admitted before his stroke?

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By QuyTran, August 1, 2007 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment

Even she tries very hard but the U.S. and Saudis relationship is still in deep trouble.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, August 1, 2007 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment
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O goody Condi is in there selling the deal.The last time Condi closed a deal it was with the moron who is our President.The Saudis are going to take the arms with some bullshit of peace with Israel.Then when they have received the arms the precondition to peace with Israel will be that everyone must convert to Islam or some other far fetched unattainable idea.If the Saudis made peace with Israel now with our troops in the middle east seen as an extension of the Israeli army the Saudi royal family would be living in Crawford Texas permanently.

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 1, 2007 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment

#91443 by wangman on 8/01 at 12:10 pm: “...I was being sarcastic about the right to exist, since that is the first road block the US has put on Hamas so that it could starve their people to death, while still holding close relationships to all the other ME countries that doesn’t acknowledge Israel’s right to exist….”

Wang, the S.Arabians were already holding “peace talks” with the Palestinians (that is, the remaining Palestinians) some time ago - and Israel has been blocking and disrupting things ever since. Which country was it that bombed Lebanon?

If either the uSA or Israel wanted peace, that was the time to have gone forward with the right intentions. Obviously, they have something entirely different in mind. Regional expansion of Israel, for one!

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By weather, August 1, 2007 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

Israel has more games than an Arcade.

Yet another death defying, Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey production of fraud.

If Israel wanted Peace there would be Peace, but you can’t have submarines like Israel and a WalMart full of WMD if you’re the victim, no? But you can trust Israel as far as you can throw an Aircraft Carrier, I promise.

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By wangman, August 1, 2007 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment

Douglas,

I was being sarcastic about the right to exist, since that is the first road block the US has put on Hamas so that it could starve their people to death, while still holding close relationships to all the other ME countries that doesn’t acknowledge Israel’s right to exist.

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By Douglas Chalmers, August 1, 2007 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

#91416 by wangman on 8/01 at 10:25 am: “...Why would the US allow the Saudis to exist or even let them have the privilege of meeting the Israelis when they don’t even acknowledge Israel’s right to exist…?”

Firstly, Israel doesn’t have a right to exist - the place is PALESTINE and everybody used to live in relative harmony, Christian Jew and Moslem, until the Zionist incursion in the 1940’s and onwards.

The USA has the “right” to starve people? Entire countries - into “oblivion”? Where did this right come from and how? Is that what you call being “Christian”? Actually, Jesus was a Palestinian!

But, to get to the point, quote BBC: “...Prince Saud said he was “astounded” by recent remarks by US ambassador to the UN Zalmay Khalilzad, in which he accused Saudi Arabia of undermining efforts to stabilise war-ravaged Iraq….”

The rabid White House staff have gone to new hypocritical extremes in denouncing S.Arabia only hours after announcing a $20 billion arms deal with them. This is desperate pandering to the local voting public - and playing the game both ways in doing so!

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By wangman, August 1, 2007 at 10:25 am Link to this comment

Why would the US allow the Saudis to exist or even let them have the privilege of meeting the Israelis when they don’t even acknowledge Israel’s right to exist?  Shouldn’t the US be starving the Saudis, along with most of the Middle East countries into oblivion for that act?

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By QuyTran, August 1, 2007 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

She’s going to sell her blowjob policy before the end of her debauched emperor’s dynasty. Good luck, Madam !

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